A Few Other Reasons Not To "BUG IN"

[Krime]

*SIGH*

i know imma catch hell for this but..........

as many know, im not a fan of "bugging in".
ive posted about the dangers of bugging in in many other threads on this site, but ive only covered the gang/small group invation scenarios.

well ive been thinking about it and heres a few more reasons why bugging in may not be the best bet:

during a post-shtf situation, and im talking on a large scale, not like Katrina, but like most if not all North America/the world is affected, there will be mass death.
you will have death by infection, by gangs, looters, starvation, drug overdoses, etc etc. who do you thinks gonna burry those bodys? no one.
but those bodys decomposing will lead to pandemic, disease, etc. and if you're bugging in that can greatly affect/infect you, your water, food, etc.
another is pool water.
whos really going to take care of their pools? that leaves free standing water, which means mosquitos, which means a larger threatof West Nile Virus, as well as other diseases.
also cocaroach infestations, with no pest control available, roaches carry hundreds of diseases.

just some thoughts.

 

[Fordrocks1986]

*SIGH*

i know imma catch hell for this but..........

as many know, im not a fan of "bugging in".
ive posted about the dangers of bugging in in many other threads on this site, but ive only covered the gang/small group invation scenarios.

well ive been thinking about it and heres a few more reasons why bugging in may not be the best bet:

during a post-shtf situation, and im talking on a large scale, not like Katrina, but like most if not all North America/the world is affected, there will be mass death.
you will have death by infection, by gangs, looters, starvation, drug overdoses, etc etc. who do you thinks gonna burry those bodys? no one.
but those bodys decomposing will lead to pandemic, disease, etc. and if you're bugging in that can greatly affect/infect you, your water, food, etc.
another is pool water.
whos really going to take care of their pools? that leaves free standing water, which means mosquitos, which means a larger threatof West Nile Virus, as well as other diseases.
also cocaroach infestations, with no pest control available, roaches carry hundreds of diseases.

just some thoughts.

Those are some good points and I fill the same way I like bugging out better.

 

[Krime]

lol just wait its comen

 

[Colt 1911]

OK here it comes ! You have valid points but, is it really going to happen, i mean to that magnitude. I don't think so. If it does I am out for sure. All of us have are supplies at the house, maybe a few have a stash or two, It's a lot harder to live off the land than it is to pull some rice an beans out of your cabinet. I think most people are in for a rude awakening " present company excluded " when bugging out. Krime I know you are looking forward to it, and sure you would be fine. Bugging out is the last thing i want to do, I can hold my own in the woods but after awhile it's going to suck. I guess it all depends on what happens, earthquake and things go south for awhile, I am staying locked down in the house. SHTF see ya !!

 

[Krime]

OK here it comes ! You have valid points but, is it really going to happen, i mean to that magnitude. I don't think so. If it does I am out for sure. All of us have are supplies at the house, maybe a few have a stash or two, It's a lot harder to live off the land than it is to pull some rice an beans out of your cabinet. I think most people are in for a rude awakening " present company excluded " when bugging out. Krime I know you are looking forward to it, and sure you would be fine. Bugging out is the last thing i want to do, I can hold my own in the woods but after awhile it's going to suck. I guess it all depends on what happens, earthquake and things go south for awhile, I am staying locked down in the house. SHTF see ya !!

ya id probably stay at/around my house in an earthquake, tbh, i dont see too much anarchy going around at that point.
but do you wanna stick around for martial law? economic collapse? pandemics? or anything that would cause a "no law" situation?

 

[Colt 1911]

ya id probably stay at/around my house in an earthquake, tbh, i dont see too much anarchy going around at that point.
but do you wanna stick around for martial law? economic collapse? pandemics? or anything that would cause a "no law" situation?

Probably not.

 

[Hades]

lol just wait its comen

ARE YOU STUPID, THATS THE MOST RETARTED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD, NOT BUGGING IN, OH MY GOD.
I, I, I, UH.........
WAIT...........JUST JOKING
actually I totally agree,DAMNIT!!!!! Its suicide for most people in citys to bug in, in a disaster.
I just didnt want you waiting too long for some negative feedback.
Only negative thing I have to say is.....................................
Some people like me live the same place all the time that others want to bug out to LMAO. your buggin out is my buggin in.

 

[Krime]

ARE YOU STUPID, THATS THE MOST RETARTED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD, NOT BUGGING IN, OH MY GOD.
I, I, I, UH.........
WAIT...........JUST JOKING
actually I totally agree,DAMNIT!!!!! Its suicide for most people in citys to bug in, in a disaster.
I just didnt want you waiting too long for some negative feedback.
Only negative thing I have to say is.....................................
Some people like me live the same place all the time that others want to bug out to LMAO. your buggin out is my buggin in.

what i ment is, this topic usually turns into somewhat of an arguement, but its ok for it to be so, because people get to see both sides of it.

ill tell ya something though, if 1 year after a doomsday situation, a dudes/girlys still liven in their same city house, thats a friend id like to make, or at the very least, i wouldnt wanna be their enemy! that'd be 1 bad mo-fo right there!

 

[Hades]

what i ment is, this topic usually turns into somewhat of an arguement, but its ok for it to be so, because people get to see both sides of it.

ill tell ya something though, if 1 year after a doomsday situation, a dudes/girlys still liven in their same city house, thats a friend id like to make, or at the very least, i wouldnt wanna be their enemy! that'd be 1 bad mo-fo right there!

I know what you meant, just wanting to have some fun.
You aint lying, if someone can hold thier own in a city bug in situation for more than 2 weeks, I gotta agree, they are one bad mo-fo.
They were prepared out the ying- yang.

 

[Krime]

LOL, like if Rambo, Chuck Norris, and Bruce Lee had a baby, that'd be him/her, LOL, can you imagine a "her"??? LOL, i might leave my wife HA!

 

[Hades]

LOL, like if Rambo, Chuck Norris, and Bruce Lee had a baby, that'd be him/her, LOL, can you imagine a "her"??? LOL, i might leave my wife HA!

Hell no, I would rather eat a human, that have have an argument with that chick.

 

[Krime]

Hell no, I would rather eat a human, that have have an argument with that chick.

ROFLMMFAO!!!!
no **** hu!
Good one bro!

 

[Fordrocks1986]

Hell no, I would rather eat a human, that have have an argument with that chick.

Lol hades you really want to eat some one just to see what they taste like don't you lol

 

[Hades]

Let me tell you a story, I was a vol. firefighter in WV, one day we roll out on a big house fire, I had only been on the dept for a year or two, and we faught that flameball for 3-4 hrs. I was starving,what didnt help was that smell, it was everywhere.I just knew someone was grilling around there, I kept askin the other guys what neighbor was grilling out, they were all just laughin, said it was probably the dude that lived here. It was hrs before I figured out what was going on. It was the dude that lived in that house grilling alright, hehehe, literally. If you have never smelled that sweet aroma of a human cooking, you dont know what I am talking about, if you have, you do.

If, and I say if, I were starving, I would have no damn problem eating another person( if they were fresh lol). I would not kill a man to eat him, but if the situation arose that I either ate a man, or I died, the hardest choice I would have to make would be baked or shishkabobs. I have ate grasshoppers, snakes, rats, possums, turtles, if its made out of meat its edible. Except oysters, they are made out of snot, I'd rather die. LMAO
everyone has limitations LOL

 

[Fordrocks1986]

Let me tell you a story, I was a vol. firefighter in WV, one day we roll out on a big house fire, I had only been on the dept for a year or two, and we faught that flameball for 3-4 hrs. I was starving,what didnt help was that smell, it was everywhere.I just knew someone was grilling around there, I kept askin the other guys what neighbor was grilling out, they were all just laughin, said it was probably the dude that lived here. It was hrs before I figured out what was going on. It was the dude that lived in that house grilling alright, hehehe, literally. If you have never smelled that sweet aroma of a human cooking, you dont know what I am talking about, if you have, you do.

If, and I say if, I were starving, I would have no damn problem eating another person( if they were fresh lol). I would not kill a man to eat him, but if the situation arose that I either ate a man, or I died, the hardest choice I would have to make would be baked or shishkabobs. I have ate grasshoppers, snakes, rats, possums, turtles, if its made out of meat its edible. Except oysters, they are made out of snot, I'd rather die. LMAO
everyone has limitations LOL

Lol you are crazy I will never go camping with you my friend and no matter life or death I would not eat human at all that's what makes us different form wild animals we don't eat each other. That's how I fill at least

 

[Hades]

LOL

 

[Colt 1911]

I would eat my wife !

 

[Fordrocks1986]

What kinda eat?

 

[Colt 1911]

What kinda eat?

lol

 

[savageagle]

Wow! Alot said here. Many pro's and con's whether to bug in or out. If I were in a city (Fresno) I would not stay there. No matter how tuff you feel you are allowing for a harder time with more events to come your way that will test you. You always should take the route with less effort. I feel very secure with my prepping here in Squaw valley at 2500'. My nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away. I have 5 acres and great visabilty in all directions but with a negative as to the distance of my home from the road which is about 400 feet. My water well is between my home and the road and packed away for now is a manual pump with handle like the old styles. This I think will have to be protected because I feel people heading out of the cities and towns will be keeping thier eyes open for an easy place to get water. Bugging in is also a concern if marshall law is declared and the Gov't wants to come and remove you to a secure "concentration camp"....LOL. You will have your defenses tested to the max at that point. I do rely on my radios to hopefully give me an advanced warning. I may/may not hear warnings of whats going on in the cities and towns hopefully before shtf here, who knows. and when I have to leave I have HT's that are already programmed with the latest of frequencies, protected or not from local and federal agencies. I know I will not have to deal with hundreds of bodies to discard but what if I have to shoot a few myself? They would definately have to be buried or burned because of what was said above about diseases that would stem from leaving them just laying around to decompose. Besides not wanting to see them laying there If the season is right there would be hundreds of mosquitos out in the moist tall grass just waiting to get a bite into one of these bodies then come and bite me, no way, burn or put'em in the ground.
Can't say I'd eat one and for now I'd hate to think things would ever get bad enough for me to even consider it. I hope not.

 

[Skyline]

I have gone back and forth on whether I wanted to Bug In or Out. I live near a fairly large city, but where I live is pretty much as rural as suburban gets, if that makes sense. I have one neighbor nearby but other than that am about 1/8 to a 1/4 mile from others, but it's not a huge number of homes within a mile of my house. I'd prefer to stay where I am because I feel bugging out with a several month food supply and water supply for 6 people would be quite difficult. However, those items are quite valuable and not something I would be happy about leaving behind.

So I thought about a bug out location, where if it was determined staying where I am at is considered too dangerous I could have a back-up place to go. Now I am sure this is all sounding boring and common to you, but how far is too far for a bug out location? I have one in mind but it's about 30 miles and 45 minutes away. and it goes through moderately urban areas but no cities.

The problem with living in an area with cold winters is that living off the land and always being on the move can be dangerous once the temperature begins to drop.

 

[Colt 1911]

I have gone back and forth on whether I wanted to Bug In or Out. I live near a fairly large city, but where I live is pretty much as rural as suburban gets, if that makes sense. I have one neighbor nearby but other than that am about 1/8 to a 1/4 mile from others, but it's not a huge number of homes within a mile of my house. I'd prefer to stay where I am because I feel bugging out with a several month food supply and water supply for 6 people would be quite difficult. However, those items are quite valuable and not something I would be happy about leaving behind.

So I thought about a bug out location, where if it was determined staying where I am at is considered too dangerous I could have a back-up place to go. Now I am sure this is all sounding boring and common to you, but how far is too far for a bug out location? I have one in mind but it's about 30 miles and 45 minutes away. and it goes through moderately urban areas but no cities.

The problem with living in an area with cold winters is that living off the land and always being on the move can be dangerous once the temperature begins to drop.

I guess it all depends on what happens, my bug out is about the same but last resort for me.

 

[Skyline]

Why can't the end of the world be more specific! Sure would make prepping easier lol

 

[Colt 1911]

Why can't the end of the world be more specific! Sure would make prepping easier lol

Me personally, I am doing a 30 day kit and that's about it. Cover all the bases for thirty days. That's just me, a lot of people are prepping differently, Which is totally cool.......... ! Thats what i like about DDP, tons of ideas that can be used.

 

[Wammit]

Why can't the end of the world be more specific! Sure would make prepping easier lol

Can't agree more with this statement...

But getting back to the subject it all depends on how your support system is set up... Bugging in, not for me. So let me throw this out there...

If your neighbors are in your prepping group, well then it might be a option.. Strength in numbers right...

Also I have worked with some that have a 90 day bug in plan to let the storm (whatever it may be) pass and then move to the BOL after that. Understand this involves a bunker of some sort. and some other specialized preps...

So with that said if you are Bugging out just make sure you have your routes planned checked and make sure you have 3 separate or more, also your mode of transportation planned with backups and so forth.

 

[Jenifer1]

*SIGH*

i know imma catch hell for this but..........

as many know, im not a fan of "bugging in".
ive posted about the dangers of bugging in in many other threads on this site, but ive only covered the gang/small group invation scenarios.

well ive been thinking about it and heres a few more reasons why bugging in may not be the best bet:

during a post-shtf situation, and im talking on a large scale, not like Katrina, but like most if not all North America/the world is affected, there will be mass death.
you will have death by infection, by gangs, looters, starvation, drug overdoses, etc etc. who do you thinks gonna burry those bodys? no one.
but those bodys decomposing will lead to pandemic, disease, etc. and if you're bugging in that can greatly affect/infect you, your water, food, etc.
another is pool water.
whos really going to take care of their pools? that leaves free standing water, which means mosquitos, which means a larger threatof West Nile Virus, as well as other diseases.
also cocaroach infestations, with no pest control available, roaches carry hundreds of diseases.

just some thoughts.

I hear what yer saying but how does bugging out solve any of those issues? If there's dead bodies laying around all over how are you any better bugging out than in? If we're talking mass death then they're everywhere. the pandemic is pandemic, right? Where ya gonna go? Seems like staying in might actually be better in that scenario. Same thing with the standing water...seems like inside is better as far as mosquitos go, than living in yer tent somewhere bugged out. JMO anyway.

 

[Jenifer1]

ARE YOU STUPID, THATS THE MOST RETARTED THING I HAVE EVER HEARD, NOT BUGGING IN, OH MY GOD.
I, I, I, UH.........
WAIT...........JUST JOKING
actually I totally agree,DAMNIT!!!!! Its suicide for most people in citys to bug in, in a disaster.
I just didnt want you waiting too long for some negative feedback.
Only negative thing I have to say is.....................................
Some people like me live the same place all the time that others want to bug out to LMAO. your buggin out is my buggin in.

Krime...yer funny. I didn't think about the fact that, I too, don't live in the city. We're kinda out in the woods. So bugging in is a more reasonable idea for me.

 

[Jenifer1]

I would eat my wife !

Good man!

 

[Clyde]

Why can't the end of the world be more specific! Sure would make prepping easier lol

That and when it's going to happen!

 

[Hades]

Why can't the end of the world be more specific! Sure would make prepping easier lol

yeah but it would take all the fun out of it LOL