Alternative Medicine Cabinet

[Katie Müller]

Not sure if there's a thread like this around the board, but thought I'd make one anyway. As we go down, the health care system is going to suffer and people will have to do a lot more self-medicating. I thought it might be good to share alternative medicines, especially ones we personally might be familiar with,

Obviously everyone's health is different, but sharing our knowledge of herbal remedies for various ailments might be helpful if any of us find ourselves in a future situation needing alternative medicines.

This is what I have so far, I'm happy to expound on each item if anyone is curious. What do you know of that you'd be willing to share?

Blood Pressure

- Hawthorne (For high blood pressure)
- Garlic (For high blood pressure)
- Licorice (For low blood pressure; licorice can decrease potassium levels in the body)

Kidneys and Urinary Tract

- Nettle leaf tea
- Baking soda tablets
- Folic acid (continuous use of baking soda we think caused lower levels of folic acid, so dad's got to take supplements occasionally; no big deal, a mild side-effect)
- Cranberry
- Buchu Leaf

Anxiety / Depression
- Catnip
- 5-HTP
- Camomile Tea

Menstrual
- Catnip
- Camomile Tea

Cysts and Boils
- Tea tree oil, calamine lotion, witch hazel (used together)

Antibacterial
- Tea tree oil

Inflammation and Pain
- Boswellia
- Turmeric
- Tart Cherry

Anemia
- Molasses
- Nettle Leaf Tea

 

[Pearl]

Anyone reading that, PLEASE be CAREFUL if you answer!! MEDICAL information is PRIVATE!!!

 

[Katie Müller]

Anyone reading that, PLEASE be CAREFUL if you answer!! MEDICAL information is PRIVATE!!!

Calm down.

I posted if people are willing to share what they use for day-to-day ailments. They don't have to elaborate. They don't even have to have the ailment; they can simply share that they know honey works as an antibacterial or something like that.

 

[Neb]

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Blood Pressure

- Hawthorne (For high blood pressure)
- Garlic (For high blood pressure)
- Licorice (For low blood pressure; licorice can decrease potassium levels in the body)

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- Nettle Leaf Tea

Hawthorne didn't help with my high blood pressure. Tried it for 2 months taking my BP 5hree times a day. No effect for me.

I should try garlic.

Ben

 

[jazzy]

i like to make my own basics to keep around. i think its good to learn as much as possible to try to take care of oneself. things arent going to get any easier.

elderberry tincture for colds-flu
L-lysine for a shingles attack
liposomal vit C for mega dose of vit C with no bowel problems
colloidal silver
MSM-Glucosimine- back and knee pain
Magnesium Oil (of flakes to make it) for a roll on app i use at bedtime for lower back and deep sleep
anti spasm tincture -wood betony, wild yam, corydalis
CBD oil - make my own
skullcap tincture for mood-anxiety
GSE - grapefruit seed extract-
blackberry leaf tincture for diarrhea
various homeopathics
arnica salve
chlorine dioxide tablets-plain-multiple uses,

 

[Plainflatlander]

Hawthorne didn't help with my high blood pressure. Tried it for 2 months taking my BP 5hree times a day. No effect for me.

I should try garlic.

Ben

Garlic worked for me. Was borderline getting BP med, started eating one small clove each morning, BP is now very good.

 

[Katie Müller]

Hawthorne didn't help with my high blood pressure. Tried it for 2 months taking my BP 5hree times a day. No effect for me.

I should try garlic.

Ben

Interesting. My dad takes hawthorne. It took about a month, month and half at high dosages. He was taking 8 pills / day which was like. . . maybe 2000+mg. He had to stay on Lisinopril for that time. Once it kicked in he knocked it down to 6 pills then 4. I can't remember the mg. I could probably look it up if anyone was desperate to know.

Interestingly garlic didn't work for Dad. But that is the thing with herbs sometimes one herb works great for on person and another herb works great for another. Got to play around sometimes.

 

[Katie Müller]

@jazzy - I see collodial silver used a lot and would like to learn more about it. I read some articles, but talking to people who use it and how they use is sometimes more helpful. It's good as like a topical antibiotic?

I forgot about skullcap; I've used that for mood/anxiety too. AND it's good for rabies. Ha ha. Not that I've ever tried or want to try and highly doubt it would be effective by time one realizes someone or something has become rabid.

My mom gets back pain every since she had the spinal tap during c-section. I wonder if magnesium oil would help her? Is it only for muscle?

 

[LadyLocust]

Hawthorne didn't help with my high blood pressure. Tried it for 2 months taking my BP 5hree times a day. No effect for me.

I should try garlic.

Ben

I don't have BP issues but I try garlic regularly heehee

Anybody who hasn't used tea-tree &/or eucalyptus - use caution. I am sensitive to both. I have allergies & these aren't native so my system rejects them.

I don't take anything regularly but various things as needs arise.

 

[Amish Heart]

We've got some pretty strange amish remedies around here, but they're mixed with young living oils at the moment, the latest gimmick. I have some oils, but would not put them in a diffuser, or on an open wound. B and W ointment is the amish neosporin. It works fine. Draw salve is good for splinters. Eucalyptus salve on your chest for a cold. Rose salve for dry lips.

 

[Katie Müller]

I don't have BP issues but I try garlic regularly heehee

Anybody who hasn't used tea-tree &/or eucalyptus - use caution. I am sensitive to both. I have allergies & these aren't native so my system rejects them.

I don't take anything regularly but various things as needs arise.

Tea tree oil is rough on the skin. If one wants a cyst burst the mixture of tea tree oil, calamine and witch hazel works, but it is painful. So I guess it depends on the level of suffering one wants to go through. Lol. So I agree to use caution.

I need to go through Jazzy's list and research each thing you posted. I love alternative medicine.

@Amish Heart - do you know what exactly is in B & W ointment?

 

[Tirediron]

medicine man/woman tradition says that you can find the cure for what ails you in one days walk, but "Civilization" has messed that up pretty bad.

 

[Pearl]

medicine man/woman tradition says that you can find the cure for what ails you in one days walk, but "Civilization" has messed that up pretty bad.

People can make a mess of things. Especially when they go against nature!!

 

[jazzy]

colloidal silver--i use it for many things from rinse after brushing teeth, take a shot glass full 4-5 times a day for cold-sniffles-, ive used it for skin clenaing a cut, used it for eye drops, nebulizer, ive put some in a vase with cut flowers to keep them fresh longer,, ive put it in pets water, worked great to get rid of some mange in a opup, just kept washing the spot.

i have a small colloidal silver generator ive used for years, but you can make your own , lots of info on the net. some people use silver coins, im not comfortable with that and use 99.99 silver rods.

sorry your mom has pain, i use the mag oil in a roll on, it takes the endge off but not pain free. i use it mostly for the deepr restful sleep. i only use it topically. maybe look in to CBD oil many find it very helpful .

 

[Tirediron]

Thc(Weed)in edible form is a really effective pain suppressant, and in my case got rid of "memory pain" (old injury pain that never fully went away)

 

[backlash]

I'm finding out the best thing for what ails you is diet and exercise.
The more I do the better I feel.

 

[Pearl]

I'm finding out the best thing for what ails you is diet and exercise.
The more I do the better I feel.

I mentioned that in another thread. I think most of what ails people is their diet, and lack of exercise!

 

[Amish Heart]

Agree with that, Pearl. And I would add a person's attitude to that. Socialization and connection is important.
B&W salve has: honey, lanolin, olive oil, wheat germ oil, aloe vera gel, wormwood, marshmallow root, comfrey root, white oak bark, lobelia, vegetable glycerin, and beeswax.

 

[Pearl]

Agree with that, Pearl. And I would add a person's attitude to that. Socialization and connection is important.
B&W salve has: honey, lanolin, olive oil, wheat germ oil, aloe vera gel, wormwood, marshmallow root, comfrey root, white oak bark, lobelia, vegetable glycerin, and beeswax.

Well said

 

[viking]

Hawthorne didn't help with my high blood pressure. Tried it for 2 months taking my BP 5hree times a day. No effect for me.

I should try garlic.

Garlic is also a blood thinner and I've known about Hawthorne and Hawthorne trees are pretty common in Washington and I also see a lot of them down here in southern Oregon, it's good to know just what health herbs and plants grow in your area, we have Oregon grape and Pipsissewa that grow in our area both are good for urinary and prostate problems. Pipsissewa is also used in making rootbeer, it's a substitute for Sasifrass which some writings mention can be problematic, health wise. We also have Blackraspberry that grows wild out in the woods, makes great jam and is also supposed to be healthful, even Dr. Oz has talked about it on his show.

 

[SoJer]

We're just going to Adopt Sirs Peanut and Elkhound (and Lady Grizzlyette, whenever she surfaces for air! ) and call it Good..

Seriously, tho, Yarrow, Plaintain, Oregano Oil, +1 for Marshmallow-root, Aloe, Ginger, Garlic, Raw Honey, and even Goldenrod are All 'Must-haves', and as you venture into 'Medicinal Mushrooms' (the Non-psychoactive ones.. ) well now you're opening-up an entire World of Goodness, for many, Many benefits, both Preventative and Curative, etc..

The 'Patriot Nurse', on Censortube has had a few good Vids on 'Herbal / Natural Med-remedies' in the past that were Factual / worth a peruse / more research.. https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePatriotNurse/playlists

Edit: Sorry, not sure Why 'YT' categorized that First-vid in her "Prepping" playlist as 'Age-Restricted', but.. That's the suggested Playlist, for that-specific Content.. Skim-down / peruse, as-apt..

..Some Ppl Love her, some think she's full of *coff coff*... I say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We tend to take the 'Listen to All - Bow to None - Worship Only One' (and He ain't a 'YouTuber'.. angle, and that has usually kept us pretty straight. Townsends (also on YT..) have a few good 'suggestions of yore', also.

Fwiw..
jd

 

[joel]

Okay Peanut tell us what you think, some of us have learned to trust you option.

 

[lilmissy]

i keep a big container of ascorbic vit c and just make ascorbate
magnesium flakes for magnesium oil
elderberry tincture
colloidal silver
hawthorne berries
black salve
unkers salve
chickweed salve
Echinacea planted in garden for tinctures
dont spray lawn so I can dig up dandelion root for tinctures
i have a list for bp help. Not everything works for everyone.
oil of oregano
also knowing how to make some of these items or find them in nature.

 

[Katie Müller]

Not alternative, but fish-biotics

https://shtfsource.com/collections/all-medications
Posting the link because they were hard to come by for a while.

Key is knowing when to use it. Some people abuse antibiotics. After 18 years of of being a frequent flyer patient I'm pretty good at determining when to use and not use.

I had an allergic reaction to Levaquin and apparently Cipro is in the same family so my one doctor is leery about prescribing it to me, despite never having a reaction to it, but you can develop allergies at any time. So Flagyll is my go to. So if someone is allergic to levaquin or cipro, just be mindful of the other. Doesn't mean you'll have a reaction, but you could.

Was doing some research into Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) My gastroenterologist suggests I might have this problem because Flagyll reduces my Crohn's symptoms. And I do know that other J-pouch patients have this problem as a surgical complication. (Under normal circumstances bacteria is pushed into the large intestine. Except J-pouchers don't have a large intestine, therefore the bacteria remains and causes overgrowth)

I found a cool article about SIBO that I'm going to share because knowledge is power!

Oil of oregano (Origanum vulgare) is a well-documented botanical that directly kills or strongly inhibits the growth of intestinal microbes. Oil of oregano has other beneficial properties such as inducing apoptosis in human colon cancer

Berberine extracts and thymus vulgaris are also well known for their broad antibacterial activities.

Wormwood (Artemisia absinthium) has substantial antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory properties that may be important to the pathogenesis of SIBO and has been used to successfully induce remission of Crohn's Disease.

There are other herbals used in our study that have noteworthy properties. Lemon balm offers anti-anxiety and antidepressant effects that may benefit patients with IBS, while coptis root has growth-inhibitory effects on human bacteria.

Red thyme essential oil inhibits the growth of Escherichia coli O157: H7 and Staphylococcus aureus.

Indian Barbarry root extract (Berberis aristata) contains berberine and has antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, and antidiarrheal proper-ties.

Equisetum arvense L. was shown to possesses a broad spectrum of a very strong antimicrobial activity against a variety of enteric microorganisms including Staphylococcus aureus (S aureus), Escherichia coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, and Salmonella enteritidis and the fungi Aspergillus nigerand Candida albicans. Thymus vulgaris has potent antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory actions. Olea europaea inhibits the growth of a number of staphylococcal species including S aureus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/

@Amish Heart - Have you used wormwood; do you grow it?

@lilmissy - How do you use oil of oregano?

Anyone know how to extract oil from oregano? @Peanut , I haven't been here long, but you seem knowledgeable about these things.

 

[Peanut]

I don’t extract oils for several reasons. The first being that many oils go bad (rancid) in months. This means to have oil from oregano (example), you have to harvest a large amount of plant material every year, process and extract the oil. The process can be very complicated. In comparison a tincture is good for 12 to 15 years (generally), requires far less plant material and is very simple to make and store.

In the case of oregano… a mint family plant. From it the "essential oil" is extracted. It is a misnomer, it’s not a vegetable oil, not an oil at all. The substances are called “volatile oils”. They contain no glycerin or fatty acids as do vegetable/animal oils.

When extracted these “volatile oils” mix readily with oils like olive oil (base or carrier oil) but not so much with water. Again, a short shelf life, based on the carrier oil used. These volatile oils also mix readily with alcohol, which acts as a preservative – a tincture.

So, that’s the basic reason why I choose tinctures over essential oils. I don’t make them or use them. I do keep 4 oils on hand only because I can’t get those plants (lands far away).

In my personal experience fresh plants are the best medicine, most effective way to use a plant. Taking a plant medicine in tincture form is the second best method for many plants. With others the second best method are teas. When looking for the best ways to keep medicinal plants by an average guy on the street, equipment readily available to anyone… There are 3, drying herbs to make teas, making alcohol tinctures or using fresh herbs.

Now… speaking to oregano in particular. Its native to Europe with several cousins. We even have a cousin that is native to N. America – Monarda fistulosa – Sweet Leaf. It has very similar properties to oregano. The two plants can be used interchangeably in many cases (many, not all).

Sweet leaf was used (and still is) by all N. American native tribes. Its native and grows wild in all 48 states, plus Alaska and Canada. It’s a medicine I use almost daily. I also know a dozen places it grows wild near me. One year it came up volunteer in my flower garden, still grows there.

So, nope, don’t do essential oils… and have no reason to use oregano except as a spice (not that fond of Italian food either).

Monarda... Sweet Leaf

 

[hiwall]

Anybody who hasn't used tea-tree &/or eucalyptus - use caution. I am sensitive to both. I have allergies & these aren't native so my system rejects them.

This ^^. Just because something is "all natural" does not mean it is safe for every person. Try new items with caution.

I have many books on natural remedies. Not so much for our use but future use by our kids.

 

[Amish Heart]

I only eat oregano. I grow herbs to eat or to make a tea.

 

[LadyLocust]

I only eat oregano. I grow herbs to eat or to make a tea.

Basil and garlic are both said to have positive medicinal effects. I could eat pesto with a spoon so figure I'm covered Oregano isn't far behind!

 

[lilmissy]

Not alternative, but fish-biotics

https://shtfsource.com/collections/all-medications
Posting the link because they were hard to come by for a while.

Key is knowing when to use it. Some people abuse antibiotics. After 18 years of of being a frequent flyer patient I'm pretty good at determining when to use and not use.

I had an allergic reaction to Levaquin and apparently Cipro is in the same family so my one doctor is leery about prescribing it to me, despite never having a reaction to it, but you can develop allergies at any time. So Flagyll is my go to. So if someone is allergic to levaquin or cipro, just be mindful of the other. Doesn't mean you'll have a reaction, but you could.

Was doing some research into Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) My gastroenterologist suggests I might have this problem because Flagyll reduces my Crohn's symptoms. And I do know that other J-pouch patients have this problem as a surgical complication. (Under normal circumstances bacteria is pushed into the large intestine. Except J-pouchers don't have a large intestine, therefore the bacteria remains and causes overgrowth)

I found a cool article about SIBO that I'm going to share because knowledge is power!




@Amish Heart - Have you used wormwood; do you grow it?

@lilmissy - How do you use oil of oregano?

Anyone know how to extract oil from oregano? @Peanut , I haven't been here long, but you seem knowledgeable about these things.

Oregano oil has tons of benefits. We even out it on the bottom of our feet if we feel a cold coming on. Works great on mosquito bites, great for candida. There are pages and pages of what it is good for. Do not ever take it without using water with it. It will burn like fire.

 

[Tirediron]

Oregano oil has tons of benefits. We even out it on the bottom of our feet if we feel a cold coming on. Works great on mosquito bites, great for candida. There are pages and pages of what it is good for. Do not ever take it without using water with it. It will burn like fire.

It only burns like fire if you have stuff for it to correct, it also make you froth like a rabid dog, so probably for most people dilute it.