Any Subaru owners here ???

[kenv1950]

Getting rid of my wifes new Cherokee. (jeep is moving to mexico )
I live in the Catskill Mountains , I'm on top of a mountain , not like mountains some of you have out west . We're about 2500 ft. elevation..
Question , New Onyx , Natural aspired 2.5 are they OK ? They can come with a Turbo extra $3300. Don't like spending that much extra if I don't need to.
Would the NAT. 2.5 be ok here ? I'm old and don't need speed or jackrabbit take offs but need enough power for snow days and hills. We do get snow here .

 

[Caribou]

I drove Subarus for decades. I switched to Jeeps in '03 so I can't tell you anything about the new ones. I found them to be great in the snow, low maintenance, and easy on fuel. There was the time my wife got 37 miles on a tank of gas. It wasn't the Subaru's fault. Let the car warm up till the windows were defrosted, drive a mile to work, warm it up to return, or go to the store, leave it running while you're in the store... Minus 40º means a lot of idling.

 

[kenv1950]

I drove Subarus for decades. I switched to Jeeps in '03 so I can't tell you anything about the new ones. I found them to be great in the snow, low maintenance, and easy on fuel. There was the time my wife got 37 miles on a tank of gas. It wasn't the Subaru's fault. Let the car warm up till the windows were defrosted, drive a mile to work, warm it up to return, or go to the store, leave it running while you're in the store... Minus 40º means a lot of idling.

I just don't want to send my money to mexico , thats where jeep is moving their cherokee plant thats why we're moving away from jeep

 

[Klovis]

I have the Crosstrek and Absolutely love it.

I don't know about the specific one that you asked but i do know the Forester would handle that altitude with snow/ice with zero problems at all.

Ive got a buddy out in Montana that has the Forester and has had ZERO issues with his as far as driving in snow goes....

 

[winds-of-change]

My husband and I are Subaru owners. I’m hooked on them. I don’t think we’ll own anything else. I drive a 2013 Subaru Crosstrek (it’s a beautiful, bright orange) and hubby drives a sparkly blue Impreza. I think we will soon sell my Crosstrek and get me a Forester. I love my Crosstrek but it’s burning oil. I want to get the rings replaced for $3,000 but hubby wants to get me a new vehicle. We like the bright colors to increase our visibility on the roads.

 

[backlash]

I don't see where Jeep is moving to Mexico.
They claim to be an American made with parts sourced from all over the world, like just about everything.
Only a few Subaru's are made in America. Most are made in Japan.

 

[Cabin Fever]

My daughter and SIL swear by Subaru's with the Boxer engines. Me, I prefer older Cherokee's with the 4.0L engine. Both engines seem to be bullet-proof.

 

[kenv1950]

I don't see where Jeep is moving to Mexico.
They claim to be an American made with parts sourced from all over the world, like just about everything.
Only a few Subaru's are made in America. Most are made in Japan.

This Is Why Stellantis Is Moving Jeep Cherokee Production To …​

WebDec 18, 2022 · Stellantis has announced that it will idle its plant in Belvidere, Illinois and move Jeep Cherokee production to the Toluca plant in Mexico. Via Stellantis According to Bloomberg, U.S. nationals are relocating

 

[Klovis]

yeah... i still can't believe they are moving to Mexico.

**edit** I have a post above about my exp with Subaru but its waiting on admin approval still.

 

[kenv1950]

My husband and I are Subaru owners. I’m hooked on them. I don’t think we’ll own anything else. I drive a 2013 Subaru Crosstrek (it’s a beautiful, bright orange) and hubby drives a sparkly blue Impreza. I think we will soon sell my Crosstrek and get me a Forester. I love my Crosstrek but it’s burning oil. I want to get the rings replaced for $3,000 but hubby wants to get me a new vehicle. We like the bright colors to increase our visibility on the roads.

how many miles on the oil burner ?

 

[kenv1950]

My daughter and SIL swear by Subaru's with the Boxer engines. Me, I prefer older Cherokee's with the 4.0L engine. Both engines seem to be bullet-proof.

I had 235 000 on my last 4.0....

 

[dademoss]

We have 3 Subaru's, a 2005 Baja, a 2010 Impreza Sport, and a 2018 Impreza sport.

Never any trouble in snow, or going up the Appalachian mountains on the way to North Carolina, in either summer or winter.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

I just don't want to send my money to mexico , thats where jeep is moving their cherokee plant thats why we're moving away from jeep

Even if Subaru's are built in America, you are still sending the corporate profit to Japan.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

I had 235 000 on my last 4.0....

I just changed the oil on my 2007 GMC Sierra 5.3 V8 this afternoon.
280,605 miles and runs great!!
My mechanic told me that the way i baby it and keep up with oil changes I should see 400,000 miles.

 

[Klovis]

**This is my post from above... not sure why its still waiting for admin approval**

I have a 2022 Crosstrek and absolutely love it.

I don't know about the specific one that you asked but i do know the Forester would handle that altitude with snow/ice with zero problems at all.

Ive got a buddy out in the Mountains of Montana that has the Forester and has had ZERO issues with his as far as driving in snow goes....

 

[kenv1950]

Even if Subaru's are built in America, you are still sending the corporate profit to Japan.

Better than sending it to mexico. How much is mexico costing us by allowing illegals to cross their borders and into the U.S. and we have to support them with medical , housing ......

 

[zoomzoom]

I see a lot of Jeep vs Subaru.
Thinking of buying a new, small SUV. Never even put Jeep on the consideration list.
Any thoughts on Subaru Outback vs. Toyota RAV4?

 

[Cabin Fever]

I just changed the oil on my 2007 GMC Sierra 5.3 V8 this afternoon.
280,605 miles and runs great!!
My mechanic told me that the way i baby it and keep up with oil changes I should see 400,000 miles.

We have 170,000mi on our 2008 GMC Sierra 5.3L V8. We're original owners. Still going strong. Since we live in Minnesota. the rear wheel fenders are rusting due to the salt use on our roads.

 

[Caribou]

I just don't want to send my money to mexico , thats where jeep is moving their cherokee plant thats why we're moving away from jeep

My '03 Jeep has a computer problem and you can't buy new computers for it. I love Jeeps, and Subarus, but I'm done with new cars. I'm currently looking for someone to rebuild my Jeep with a non-computerized diesel. All the new vehicles have computers that they don't support after about 10 years so you will buy a new car. You can still buy parts for a Model T but not for anything 10 to 30 years old. Then there is the tracking issue. I tried to buy a vehicle without Onstar. Now the new ignitions can be controlled by a third party, shutting them down by the police, or anyone with a desire to hijack vehicle controls. I'm not worried about the guy that thinks it's funny to turn your wipers on. The terrorist who kills your engine is bad enough but the guy who floorboards several vehicles at rush hour is a problem.

 

[kenv1950]

My phone won't stop ringing..... found a deal and relayed it to all the ones i was getting quotes from. None of them would budge on the price , so I emailed all of them with the price quote and now their all matching it. now I don't know which one to go with..... I'll give it a couple more days ,to see if any of them beat the price ..... I hate buying cars , but my wife still works and needs dependability .
I personally drive a 09 GCherokee , I won't drive a nice vehicle , I only drive about 2000 miles a yr . Wife drive a lot of miles

 

[Caribou]

My phone won't stop ringing..... found a deal and relayed it to all the ones i was getting quotes from. None of them would budge on the price , so I emailed all of them with the price quote and now their all matching it. now I don't know which one to go with..... I'll give it a couple more days ,to see if any of them beat the price ..... I hate buying cars , but my wife still works and needs dependability .
I personally drive a 09 GCherokee , I won't drive a nice vehicle , I only drive about 2000 miles a yr . Wife drive a lot of miles

If the price is equal or close I would reward the first offer.

The wife and I were in Seattle shopping for a Subaru. We spent about three days driving back and forth between two dealers getting the price knocked down. The wife didn't lie to the dealer, she just got confused and forgetful she she told the one dealer what the other quote was. I kept my mouth shut and my face unchanged, with effort. We saved another $200 on that car. The next day she realized what she had done.

 

[kenv1950]

If the price is equal or close I would reward the first offer.

The wife and I were in Seattle shopping for a Subaru. We spent about three days driving back and forth between two dealers getting the price knocked down. The wife didn't lie to the dealer, she just got confused and forgetful she she told the one dealer what the other quote was. I kept my mouth shut and my face unchanged, with effort. We saved another $200 on that car. The next day she realized what she had done.

Saving $1600. on the 2024 Onyx ordered , unless one of them beats the price. ($35,999+tax

 

[Klovis]

I see a lot of Jeep vs Subaru.
Thinking of buying a new, small SUV. Never even put Jeep on the consideration list.
Any thoughts on Subaru Outback vs. Toyota RAV4?

Id go Forester over Outback personally.

I will also add in that the Crosstrek would be more along the size of the RAV4.... so if you want small... i'd go Crosstrek. I freaking LOVE mine.

 

[Klovis]

ohhhhhh okay. i see that the Onyx is an Outback edition. Yeah you can't go wrong with an Outback either... I just personally prefer the Forester.

You know what they say about opinions.

 

[kenv1950]

Id go Forester over Outback personally.

I will also add in that the Crosstrek would be more along the size of the RAV4.... so if you want small... i'd go Crosstrek. I freaking LOVE

ohhhhhh okay. i see that the Onyx is an Outback edition. Yeah you can't go wrong with an Outback either... I just personally prefer the Forester.

You know what they say about opinions.

Outback ,Onyx Its not for me , its what my wife wants , Has everything she wants

 

[rice paddy daddy]

We have 170,000mi on our 2008 GMC Sierra 5.3L V8. We're original owners. Still going strong. Since we live in Minnesota. the rear wheel fenders are rusting due to the salt use on our roads.

If you want to get many more miles out of the engine, you need to lock out the AFM.
Active Fuel Management. This is what causes the engine to switch from 8 to 4 cylinders depending on load.
It woks on oil pressure and solenoids activating specially designed valve lifters.

I began to notice many 5.3 GM V-8 engines laying on shop floors in various stages of disassembly, when I was out making my deliveries.
So I asked several of the shops what the deal was.
It seems that those special valve lifters fail, and when they do they take out the camshaft too. Around $2100, if they don’t find anything else wrong when they tear into it.
GM FINALLY admitted to the problem and redesigned the system starting with the 2019 model year.

I paid $190 for a module that plugs into the diagnostic port under the dash and mine is locked into 8 cylinders 100% of the time.

It’s a crap shoot exactly when your engine will fail. I caught mine in time.

 

[Cabin Fever]

If you want to get many more miles out of the engine, you need to lock out the AFM.
Active Fuel Management. This is what causes the engine to switch from 8 to 4 cylinders depending on load.
It woks on oil pressure and solenoids activating specially designed valve lifters.

I began to notice many 5.3 GM V-8 engines laying on shop floors in various stages of disassembly, when I was out making my deliveries.
So I asked several of the shops what the deal was.
It seems that those special valve lifters fail, and when they do they take out the camshaft too. Around $2100, if they don’t find anything else wrong when they tear into it.
GM FINALLY admitted to the problem and redesigned the system starting with the 2019 model year.

I paid $190 for a module that plugs into the diagnostic port under the dash and mine is locked into 8 cylinders 100% of the time.

It’s a crap shoot exactly when your engine will fail. I caught mine in time.

Thank you, I will look into it.

 

[Haertig]

I love my Crosstrek but it’s burning oil.

Subarus are/were notorious for disappearing their oil. I don't know if newer models still are. Not necessarily "burn oil", or "drip oil" ... it just kind of disappears over time. Not a problem if you maintain your vehicle, do routine oil changes, and check the oil level frequently. But if you don't, you might want to look at other brands.

 

[Alaskajohn]

I have a 2015 Forester and the wife has a 2021 Forester. Zero issues on either and many Alaskan miles on both. Its what we drive unless we absolutely need a truck. Very sure footed on ice, snow and rainy surfaces. Even though the Forester have among the most ground clearance in its class, very sure footed and stable on hilly, tippy mountain roads. No real blind spots so good visibility. Some think the dashboard design is a bit dated/goofy but things are well laid out for me. I have a very steep, narrow and winding half mile long driveway getting from the road to the homestead. When the snow is less than 5 or so inches, I would much rather be in my Subaru in X mode going up the hill than in my Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. Less fishtailing and better power distribution to the four tires. Deeper snow the truck is king.

 

[Hooch]

I have a 2011 Subaru outback. It's a great commuter car, heated seats too..love the heated seats!
I'm going to take it out today. I've been taking my truck to work up the mountain all week. I know Subie can handle the snow here..I just feel better in my truck, I'm up higher too. I guess I just havent gained the performance confidence yet in subie but I need to give it a go.