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CIA hacking routers is the least of my worries, you have what is called WAR drivers going around neighbor hoods breaking into the WiFi of homes to steel from the computer and I.D. theft and some cases using the WiFi to shut down home security devices or they just make a sport of it, at home here not a major issue, in town another story. I have nothing in my emails or on my computer to be a threat to National Security, I don't like it and believe it to be wrong though I operate this stuff knowing it may be monitored. I should put a note in my computer stipulating that I reserve all rights to my pictures and notes etc...

WAR driving;
http://searchmobilecomputing.techtarget.com/definition/war-driving
 
i don't understand any of this techy stuff, they arent going to find anything interesting in my emails- mostly my missus telling me when she is returning from a family get together, very boring.
 
I have no interest in hurting anyone and/or doing anything illegal, but it's the idea of the thing.

I don't value privacy because I'm scared of people knowing my secrets...I value privacy for its own sake, and I am an intensely private person.

I compare privacy to modesty.

We all know what naked human bodies look like, but we generally don't walk around nude in public. We cover our bodies (in part, but let us--for a moment--disregard other reasons like cold weather or protection from the environment) because of modesty, not because we think our bodies are a secret that should be concealed.

I feel the same way about the government invading my computer traffic.

It's not that I have anything to hide, it just makes me feel like I'm standing around naked in front of a buch of government strangers.

I don't always communicate well, but I hope everyone can see my point even if some people don't agree with me.
 
I have no interest in hurting anyone and/or doing anything illegal, but it's the idea of the thing.

I don't value privacy because I'm scared of people knowing my secrets...I value privacy for its own sake, and I am an intensely private person.

I compare privacy to modesty.

We all know what naked human bodies look like, but we generally don't walk around nude in public. We cover our bodies (in part, but let us--for a moment--disregard other reasons like cold weather or protection from the environment) because of modesty, not because we think our bodies are a secret that should be concealed.

I feel the same way about the government invading my computer traffic.

It's not that I have anything to hide, it just makes me feel like I'm standing around naked in front of a buch of government strangers.

I don't always communicate well, but I hope everyone can see my point even if some people don't agree with me.

We are caged, we just don't see the bars nor do people know or understand Freedom is by permission slip only in a modern democracy!
 
Im not overly concered with Feds or others prying into my cyber activities . I often give enough info making a point in a single post that some tech savy person could know who i am and with little trouble . Anyone that thinks what happens online stays online are being a bit naive. And i dont say anything online that i don't say in conversations face to face everyday . Did we not have atleast 1 member here a couple years ago that said he was a Federal agent of some sort ?
 
Did we not have atleast 1 member here a couple years ago that said he was a Federal agent of some sort ?

I vaguely remember that though I took it with a grain of salt, I never known a Federal Agent(s) to disclose themselves on any online media officially or unofficially that may at a point be investigated such as DDPF through specific member(s) activity.
 
SUPPOSEDLY, the NSA planted an employee at a large networks security firm a few years back for the purpose of engineering a backdoor into the company's firewall product that winds up in a lot of routers. That way, the NSA could snoop wherever they want.

Problem with that is a LOT of companies use that firewall product..... nothing is safe on the web.

Kind of like big brother watching everything. Big surprise there.

Edit to add: if the NSA knows how to go through a back door in a firewall, you can bet your butt that everyone else does as well. That is a big concern, considering that 95% of your medical info is stored somewhere on the cloud, if not more. Our gubmint saw to that years ago. I don't just mean that gassy episode in 2011, I mean your identification info.
 
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I vaguely remember that though I took it with a grain of salt, I never known a Federal Agent(s) to disclose themselves on any online media officially or unofficially that may at a point be investigated such as DDPF through specific member(s) activity.
It may have been S Bob saying what he use to do for a living .
Big brother listening in is not new . It predates the telegraph .
 
It may have been S Bob saying what he use to do for a living .
Big brother listening in is not new . It predates the telegraph .

Bob not the one I was thinking of, The guy I was thinking of was from Michigan who had the same claim on several forums a couple of years ago maybe longer who claimed to be part of a counter terrorism task force with the Bureau. He then vanished :-/
 
Here something for our cousins over in Europe, and yes, including UK

https://heatst.com/world/police-rai...-people-who-posted-offensive-comments-online/

"It should be absolutely apparent that free speech is dead in Europe, if it ever existed at all. While a man in Scotland faces a year in prison for an offensive YouTube video and British police scour social media for xenophobic responses to terror attacks, things are not much better on the mainland.

Today, German police conducted nationwide raids on citizens who posted offensive comments or participated in online “hate groups.” This is the second annual day of action against “hate posting.”

Twenty-three police departments were deployed across 14 german states, to enter the homes of 36 suspected hate posters and confiscate their internet connected devices, according to a press release from the German ferderal police (BKA).

Police apparently focused on political hate speech, and moved against two leftwingers and one from the Reichsbürger movement, a group that believes the current German government is illegitimate.

According to Abendzeitung, police arrived at one man’s house in Munich at 6am and confiscated two of his cell phones. The 23-year-old was accused of commenting that gays should hang themselves underneath a Facebook photo of two men kissing.

In Berlin, police raided the homes of nine suspects, confiscating their laptops and cell phones.

Germans can receive up to 5 years in prison for “hate posting.”"
 
Here something for our cousins over in Europe, and yes, including UK

https://heatst.com/world/police-rai...-people-who-posted-offensive-comments-online/

"It should be absolutely apparent that free speech is dead in Europe, if it ever existed at all. While a man in Scotland faces a year in prison for an offensive YouTube video and British police scour social media for xenophobic responses to terror attacks, things are not much better on the mainland.

Today, German police conducted nationwide raids on citizens who posted offensive comments or participated in online “hate groups.” This is the second annual day of action against “hate posting.”

Twenty-three police departments were deployed across 14 german states, to enter the homes of 36 suspected hate posters and confiscate their internet connected devices, according to a press release from the German ferderal police (BKA).

Police apparently focused on political hate speech, and moved against two leftwingers and one from the Reichsbürger movement, a group that believes the current German government is illegitimate.

According to Abendzeitung, police arrived at one man’s house in Munich at 6am and confiscated two of his cell phones. The 23-year-old was accused of commenting that gays should hang themselves underneath a Facebook photo of two men kissing.

In Berlin, police raided the homes of nine suspects, confiscating their laptops and cell phones.

Germans can receive up to 5 years in prison for “hate posting.”"

Hell...several members of this forum would be raided if that were the case here. Hate speech is no joke. If someone thinks it is...they're sadly mistaken.
 
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Probably more than several, it don't take much to hurt the feelings of the pols but much of the world no longer subscribe to the 4th grade play ground rules of;
'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' Welcome to the P/C culture of the 21st century. It's not just words in parts of Europe, it's also the subject matter that will get one on the watch list even if it has nothing to do with perceived hate speech.
 
Probably more than several, it don't take much to hurt the feelings of the pols but much of the world no longer subscribe to the 4th grade play ground rules of;
'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' Welcome to the P/C culture of the 21st century. It's not just words in parts of Europe, it's also the subject matter that will get one on the watch list even if it has nothing to do with perceived hate speech.

You're right. To be honest had I known prior that certain extreme types would be active here...I would have never registered here.

My concern now is that years after my absence from this forum...it slowly transforms into a junior hate group. This is something that I don't want to associate with in any way.

I might vote republican and be slightly conservative but I am not a racist nor am I anti government in any way. I do agree that political correctness has gotten a bit extreme though.
 
Only a couple have been banned from the site with one that was a neo-nazi because he carried it to far in his posts, you only been here a short while so you missed out on a lot things. I even taken task with some including the neo-nazi fella so don't judge the forum too harshly, many thing are tolerated by the powers that be but it does have a limit, DDPF isn't big brother nor minders.

I love it when someone calls me a racist (not by you) but by a couple here that's no longer here, as I said many times on here I'm not all white and my wife certainly isn't, she also has a cousin and a aunt that are black, Lisa reads some of these post and shrugs it off or laughs. Much of all these talks (instigators) that is pushing the P/C buttons are the whites from the left not from non-whites. Non-whites perhaps have a bigger set of balls than the whites from the left given most shrug it off including my wife and her family and parts of mine. You will find many on the forum that's not all white and some with non-white spouses. My feeling aren't hurt nor the wife and her family when they hear illegal aliens need to get out, in fact they support that sentiment.
 

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