Are you ready?

[ROmare]

️Edward Snowden has just made that abundantly clear to the entire world.

https://amg-news.com/main-core-gov...will-be-detained-when-martial-law-is-imposed/


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[David SB]

Pretty sure everyone on ANY prepper site is on the list

 

[lonewolf]

that's been taken for granted for a long time.

 

[lonewolf]

there is a tv programme over here called "Hunted", although it is just for entertainment purposes it shows just how easily the authorities can track someone.

 

[tmttactical]

If the government wants you badly enough, they will find you. Just be a small pain in their tush, but not worth hunting you down. Like on prepper forums. They know who we are but it is not worth the resources to come find us.

 

[jimLE]

Im sure everyone who is a part of any prepper site is on that list.but yet whats the chances of them going after who ever in a wrose case scenario? Like a complete power grid failer,EMP attack,pandemic. To what ever.they might go as far as 200 miles out from their base or where ever.but yet.whats the chances of them going that far out? Im thinking slim chance to none when it comes them going that far out.on account i think they'll be to under staffed to go that far out.

 

[DrHenley]

I am 100% certain that they've got bigger fish to fry than my sorry ass.

 

[jontte]

yeah and I live here,my guys and gals don't have time for little me over here if things go bad.

 

[mak270]

yeah and I live here,my guys and gals don't have time for little me over here if things go bad.

only an extremely corrupt government would do something like this to its citezens, what are they afraid of? probably of the real truth coming out, and them being exposed for what they really are.
I would bet that almost every senator and congressman has a secret offshore tax free account hidden away somewhere

 

[Mountain trapper]

I would bet that almost every senator and congressman has a secret offshore tax free account hidden away somewhere

Of course they do. Any one with any money does what they can to protect their assets.

 

[Maverick]

I don't listen to much of what Snowden has to say, the fxxker ought be shot!

 

[JackDW]

Of course they do. Any one with any money does what they can to protect their assets.

But when/if the nukes and EMPs start going off, it won't matter. All that money is just bits stored on some big ole computer. Once those have been decommissioned, there will be no money left. Just memories. Doesn't matter how much or how little you have in a bank account (onshore, offshore or nearshore), it will be gone.

 

[Mountain trapper]

But when/if the nukes and EMPs start going off, it won't matter. All that money is just bits stored on some big ole computer. Once those have been decommissioned, there will be no money left. Just memories. Doesn't matter how much or how little you have in a bank account (onshore, offshore or nearshore), it will be gone.

That's right. And that's why I'd never suggest to anyone to put all their money in only one type of investment. A bank account is about the last best place to keep ones money, onshore or off. But I do advocate spreading whatever asset's that a person has around, I.e, stocks, bonds, real estate, precious metals, preps etc. Some investments will be worthless IF there's ever a total collapse of the economy or SHTF, and other will help a person get through whatever happens.

 

[DrHenley]

All that money is just bits stored on some big ole computer. Once those have been decommissioned, there will be no money left.

Not *all*

 

[lonewolf]

TPTB in the UK just don't have the police or army numbers to come find anyone post SHTF and once the power grid goes down and the computers go black the info would be lost anyway, I mean who apart from me and a few others writes anything down on paper anymore?

 

[JackDW]

If everything goes to "hell in a handbasket", what will make gold more valuable. You can't eat it. Maybe short term, gold may contain value since people will still remember it as valuable. But it won't take long before Bullitts and/or Food will be a much greater bargaining commodity than gold.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Gold will be your start up funds, when the recovery and the rebuilding begins.

 

[Mountain trapper]

If everything goes to "hell in a handbasket", what will make gold more valuable. You can't eat it. Maybe short term, gold may contain value since people will still remember it as valuable. But it won't take long before Bullitts and/or Food will be a much greater bargaining commodity than gold.

I tend to disagree. Gold has had great value for thousands of years. I think it's a little arrogant to think that gold will become valueless after a world wide SHTF event. In the very short term it may not be as important as food and ammo to most people, but I feel that it wouldn't be long before it's used for trade again. As society rebuilds itself we will need a common recognizable form of currency for trade. Gold, silver, and possibly platinum will become real money again. I've heard many "experts" recommend having 10% of ones total assets invested in precious metals. I personally believe that percentage should be about double that.

 

[Brent S]

I tend to disagree. Gold has had great value for thousands of years. I think it's a little arrogant to think that gold will become valueless after a world wide SHTF event. In the very short term it may not be as important as food and ammo to most people, but I feel that it wouldn't be long before it's used for trade again. As society rebuilds itself we will need a common recognizable form of currency for trade. Gold, silver, and possibly platinum will become real money again. I've heard many "experts" recommend having 10% of ones total assets invested in precious metals. I personally believe that percentage should be about double that.

Yeah, I laugh at most experts though. They seem to be experts at telling others how to manage their money. Hell, if they were really good they would be wealthy enough to not having to hawk their ‘expertise’. I will say for my tastes though, I don’t think 20% in precious metals is excessive or a bad idea. One thing I am certain of is diversification is a wise idea. No one has a crystal ball and can tell how any scenario will play out, so having several different types of investments just helps ensure you will have something to work with if shtf. Investing is a personal decision, and what seems prudent for one person may seem radical to another. There are also too many things to consider, from ones age to what are your ultimate goals, for any one strategy to fit all people.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Yeah, I laugh at most experts though. They seem to be experts at telling others how to manage their money. Hell, if they were really good they would be wealthy enough to not having to hawk their ‘expertise’. I will say for my tastes though, I don’t think 20% in precious metals is excessive or a bad idea. One thing I am certain of is diversification is a wise idea. No one has a crystal ball and can tell how any scenario will play out, so having several different types of investments just helps ensure you will have something to work with if shtf. Investing is a personal decision, and what seems prudent for one person may seem radical to another. There are also too many things to consider, from ones age to what are your ultimate goals, for any one strategy to fit all people.

I totally agree. As we've discussed before, I think two of the most important investments that a person can make, are; 1) invest in yourself. That could mean learning the skills necessary to make yourself more employable, or that would lead to a higher paying position. It could also be learning the skills that will help you during and after a diaster. And 2) and possibly the most important part of investing is to be totally debt free.
I guess there is also a third "rule"; start investing early. Learn about compounding interest, buy real estate and learn how to invest in the stock market.

 

[Brent S]

I totally agree. As we've discussed before, I think two of the most important investments that a person can make, are; 1) invest in yourself. That could mean learning the skills necessary to make yourself more employable, or that would lead to a higher paying position. It could also be learning the skills that will help you during and after a diaster. And 2) and possibly the most important part of investing is to be totally debt free.
I guess there is also a third "rule"; start investing early. Learn about compounding interest, buy real estate and learn how to invest in the stock market.

Great point on being debt free too. I’d probably move that to the top of the list. Most people are going to be stuck with a mortgage, ok, at least it’s low interest and hopefully just 15 years. But credit cards and cars are just stupid to borrow on. It’s really hard to save and get ahead when your paying insane amounts of money to others so they can get ahead.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Great point on being debt free too. I’d probably move that to the top of the list. Most people are going to be stuck with a mortgage, ok, at least it’s low interest and hopefully just 15 years. But credit cards and cars are just stupid to borrow on. It’s really hard to save and get ahead when your paying insane amounts of money to others so they can get ahead.

I don't think there's enough importance placed on being debt free and saving money now days. Your right about most people will have a mortgage. But I'm shocked at the number of people in their 60's that still have a mortgage. There are many ways that a person can pay their home off in 15 or less years. I always made at least 2 payments per month. Even if these 2 payments only add up to your regular monthly payment, paying twice a month really cuts out a lot of interest and shortens the total years to pay off the loan.
Credit cards are fine for people who are disciplined enough to pay off the balance monthly. Otherwise avoid them like the plague.
New cars are fine too, if you can pay for it with cash or within a year. Otherwise buy something used that you can pay cash for.
I think the most important thing to remember is to have a plan for elimanating debt. To me, the best feeling was when I became totally debt free.

 

[Brent S]

I don't think there's enough importance placed on being debt free and saving money now days. Your right about most people will have a mortgage. But I'm shocked at the number of people in their 60's that still have a mortgage. There are many ways that a person can pay their home off in 15 or less years. I always made at least 2 payments per month. Even if these 2 payments only add up to your regular monthly payment, paying twice a month really cuts out a lot of interest and shortens the total years to pay off the loan.
Credit cards are fine for people who are disciplined enough to pay off the balance monthly. Otherwise avoid them like the plague.
New cars are fine too, if you can pay for it with cash or within a year. Otherwise buy something used that you can pay cash for.
I think the most important thing to remember is to have a plan for elimanating debt. To me, the best feeling was when I became totally debt free.

Yeah, having a plan, or a budget, is really important for most people. It amazes me how many that are broke all the time don’t have a plan to get away from being that way. I use a credit card for the business, running almost everything on it. I just make sure it’s paid off each month and then use the reward points I earn on it for whatever I want. I do have a couple other cards but never use them. My personal stuff goes on a debit card or cash. I have pretty basic tastes in life and don’t care to show off to others so really never had a hard time saving money. Even most of my hobbies tend to make money, like collecting coins. They usually go up in value vs down. The Jeep I bought is just a fun toy, and I’ve started spending some money on it. New seats, linex the entire inside, painting the accessories on it, etc. the money I spend on it increases its value so if I ever go to sell it I at least break even. (In theory). The point is when you buy something, first think about it. One is can you afford it. Two is will it hold its value. Sure there are things we just want in life and that’s fine as long as you have all your other bases covered first. I’ve said before that I don’t worship money like so many seem to do. I do however like knowing that I am financially secure and don’t have to sweat it when a car or appliance breaks down.

 

[Jayson]

Invitations to join Camp FEMA are in the mail.

 

[lonewolf]

you have got to be joking!!!

 

[BillMasen]

I don't think there's enough importance placed on being debt free and saving money now days. Your right about most people will have a mortgage. But I'm shocked at the number of people in their 60's that still have a mortgage. There are many ways that a person can pay their home off in 15 or less years. I always made at least 2 payments per month. Even if these 2 payments only add up to your regular monthly payment, paying twice a month really cuts out a lot of interest and shortens the total years to pay off the loan.
Credit cards are fine for people who are disciplined enough to pay off the balance monthly. Otherwise avoid them like the plague.
New cars are fine too, if you can pay for it with cash or within a year. Otherwise buy something used that you can pay cash for.
I think the most important thing to remember is to have a plan for elimanating debt. To me, the best feeling was when I became totally debt free.

One must remember that millions of brits and Americans lost everything in the 2008 crash and many had to remortgage.

 

[user 6493]

I don't worry about Big Brother,,,,it's hard to fight the FEDS

and DEBT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if the world does go to crap and it is a prolonged event,,,there is a good chance whoever you owed is going to be gone.....my main concern is keeping the power on,I can live without the rest

 

[Brent S]

I don't worry about Big Brother,,,,it's hard to fight the FEDS

and DEBT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if the world does go to crap and it is a prolonged event,,,there is a good chance whoever you owed is going to be gone.....my main concern is keeping the power on,I can live without the rest

Yeah, the grid running makes our lives much easier. I can cook over a wood fire but it’s a lot of work.

 

[user 6493]

my last ammo order should be here today,,,I am set for a small scale war,,,all that is left is some ammo for a friend to show up

 

[Mountain trapper]

One must remember that millions of brits and Americans lost everything in the 2008 crash and many had to remortgage.

That was 12 years ago. Most of us have recovered very nicely since then. We recovered from that "crisis" and we'll recover from this one too. Now just like then, there are some great buying opportunities available.