Does anyone know a natural remedy for snake bite in humans or animals?

[shanrose]

My husband saw a snake on our driveway and I was concerned about him getting bitten while working in the garden. Since we're not close to any hospital I thought that I should know what to do in an emergency. I looked it up and can't find any natural remedies for snake bite and thought that maybe someone on here might have some experience? I'm probably going to get a dog and thought that I should know how to treat a bite on a dog as well.

We've been setting traps to kill the mice but they keep showing up since I read that you should eliminate snakes food source. I'm sure farmers have dealt with this issue. I'm wondering if I should hire an exterminator.

 

[havasu]

Well, since I watch "Gunsmoke" every day, Festus says to cut an "x" and suck out that there poison!

Yeah, I know now the best remedy is to elevate bit limb, remain calm, and get to a hospital. Always try to take a pic of said snake!

 

[old tex]

Honestly my first thought about a "natural" treatment for a snake bite was that it was a good way to get dead. If it were me & I lived a long way away from a hospital I"d have the phone number to a hospital in the area with a helicopter.

I'll add this: When we both retired my plan was to pay off the house we already owned & sell it. Then find a place maybe 30 miles from town with a little property. As it turned out we didn't do that & bought a house in town. Fast forward 7 or so years & I was VERY happy where we lived because I made it in 9 minutes from my driveway to the ER the night, I had my first heart attack. VERY HAPPY!!! And I've been happy for the same reason twice since then.

 

[Sourdough]

I am lucky.........all the "snakes" in Alaska are in Juneau, Alaska.

 

[shanrose]

Well, since I watch "Gunsmoke" every day, Festus says to cut an "x" and suck out that there poison!

Yeah, I know now the best remedy is to elevate bit limb, remain calm, and get to a hospital. Always try to take a pic of said snake!

I watched every episode of Gunsmoke!

 

[shanrose]

Honestly my first thought about a "natural" treatment for a snake bite was that it was a good way to get dead. If it were me & I lived a long way away from a hospital I"d have the phone number to a hospital in the area with a helicopter.

I'll add this: When we both retired my plan was to pay off the house we already owned & sell it. Then find a place maybe 30 miles from town with a little property. As it turned out we didn't do that & bought a house in town. Fast forward 7 or so years & I was VERY happy where we lived because I made it in 9 minutes from my driveway to the ER the night, I had my first heart attack. VERY HAPPY!!! And I've been happy for the same reason twice since then.

I've re-thought our decision a hundred times.

 

[Pearl]

Read my thread, "I got bit by a Copperhead"! That happened last October 8th!!

 

[UserNameTaken]

The only treatment for venemous is anti-venom. Do NOT cut an X or suck the venom out, or apply a TQ.

They say now it's best to disperse the venom, reduces neucrosis at the bite site.

Non venemous, treat as any bite, clean it, and have a Dr look at it.

There are snake avoidance classes for dogs. Neighbor down the block, his dog got bit on the snoot, but got dog anti venom and was ok.

 

[Pearl]

Read my thread, "I got bit by a Copperhead"! That happened last October 8th!!

It's in Front Porch Chat, or just "search" it!

 

[UserNameTaken]

Some of those in Austrailia I hear if you get bit, dig a hole really fast, then lay in it...

 

[Proud Prepper]

Yes CDS, it can be made from natural ingredients.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Dr. Andreas Klacker has a patent on CDS treating cobra venom bites. Most forms of poisons from snakes and other venomous animals are
oxidized when adequate amounts of CDS are taken. Research the proper dosages and uses.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

the old timers had a plant called snake root for a reason i reckon.

 

[Weedygarden]

Read my thread, "I got bit by a Copperhead"! That happened last October 8th!!

https://www.homesteadingforum.org/threads/i-got-bit-by-a-copperhead.19407/

 

[Peanut]

Mankind was treating snake bites effectively long before antivenom came along. Several herbs are good for snake bite. Which herbs to use depends on type of venom and then the time elapsed since the bite. Some good info in this thread.

https://www.homesteadingforum.org/threads/snake-bite.10580/

 

[Peanut]

the old timers had a plant called snake root for a reason i reckon.

There are still 6 medicinal plants with snake root as part of the name. A few were used to treat snake bite, treat some of the symptoms to be more accurate. This one below is common in the south, Seneca snake root. It grows in heavy to partial shade. I see it most often beside small gravel roads. Especially with ditches that stay wet, with a water seep. Its not used anymore, much better plants are common and well known in the herbal medicine. I can think of a couple dozen plants I use before this one, but if I couldn't find those....

 

[shanrose]

Dr. Andreas Klacker has a patent on CDS treating cobra venom bites. Most forms of poisons from snakes and other venomous animals are
oxidized when adequate amounts of CDS are taken. Research the proper dosages and uses.

I'll look that up thanks.

 

[shanrose]

Mankind was treating snake bites effectively long before antivenom came along. Several herbs are good for snake bite. Which herbs to use depends on type of venom and then the time elapsed since the bite. Some good info in this thread.

https://www.homesteadingforum.org/threads/snake-bite.10580/

That's what I thought - that people back in the day must know how to treat a bite before anti-venom was developed.

 

[UserNameTaken]

Uhm, I am certainly no expert on medicine, but I think old school treatment was primarily via poultices and perhaps ingestion of herbs. But I don't know how effective they were/are. It seems to me that a blood dispersed neurotoxin has to be neutralized in the blood system, not at the site or via digestion.

I have had experience with half a dozen rattlesnake bites. First was in Jr high, in spring, a small rattler was by a building and everyone was around it. A kid named Alex tried to pick it up and got bit, he dropped/flung it and it bit a girl on the leg. This was back in the 60's. I used to surf with Alex, he was the kid always doing stupid stuff. Finally had to be choppered off a jetty after crashing into the rocks. IIRC he got 300+ stitches that time.

Several of us were Scouts and did what we could. The teachers who came had no clue, so let us do our thing. Treat for shock, lower the extremity. A Scout named Mike (who I once had to rescue from quicksand up to his armpits - but that's another story) tried to suck the venom out. We discovered making tourniquets with belts doesn't really work and had everyone running around looking for sticks for a windlass to no avail. We were going to use our Buck knives to cut the X's, but the teachers said we shouldn't since by then we could hear the ambulance siren. So we didn't get to amputate.

First thing the ambulance drivers did was put on TQ's using triangle bandages. Miraculously even after all our attempts to kill the patients, both survived and were back in school in a few days.

Later I spent a season working as an EMT and rescue diver at Catalina Is. We had a handful of bites. There's a LOT of rattlers there. Every one was bit on the hand or arm. The snakes liked to lay in the road. Visitors would think they were dead and try to pick them up. Almost suckered me one time. I was walking on a dirt road outside of the settlement at the Isthmus (for those who know Catalina) and saw a snake all stretched out. My first thought was it was run over and died. But luckily I'm not as stupid as I look - I got a handful of rocks from beside the road and tossed them at it from about 8 ft away. Man that thing moved FAST! LOL Gave me a great understanding why people would get bit. It sure looked dead.

Anyway, it would be good to know ways to mitigate venom or even create anti-venom.

 

[Pearl]

And know WHAT kind of snake bit you!

 

[Hooch]

@shanrose

I think I'd first find out what venous snakes you have in your area That you have to watch out for ..

Learn how to identify those one..

Do some research on their type of venom ...

Ask a local veterinarian and human doctor about/ or if self care can happen..

I know I only have 1 venous snake in my area..when..and where I'm more likely to encounter them..

I know sometimes they don't release their venom...warning bites happen..so how to know if you get the full package..

I know they have a constrictor look alike here that looks and rattles their tail to make it sound like their poisonous relative..but it's all for show.

I know since I've had chickens, turkeys and cats..I really see snakes around my place because they all eat mice rats and snakes..

Any other snake around here I have occasionally seen..I'm not concerned with..as I've only one I need to keep a eye out for.

And at least they are good at giving warnings..

 

[Weedygarden]

Uhm, I am certainly no expert on medicine, but I think old school treatment was primarily via poultices and perhaps ingestion of herbs. But I don't know how effective they were/are. It seems to me that a blood dispersed neurotoxin has to be neutralized in the blood system, not at the site or via digestion.

My uncle told me that when my grandfather was bitten by a rattler, he went to see a neighbor. Neighbor killed a chicken, cleaned it, and bound the raw chicken on Grandpa's leg where he had been bitten. I have never thought that made any sense, but maybe it had been done before. We are talking the 1930's. Grandpa was in bed for weeks. He didn't go to a doctor because the closest one was 50 miles away. I have no idea what kind of vehicle they had then.

 

[hashbrown]

My grandfather was bit by copperheads on two different occasions when he was a kid. He said his mother wrapped a rag soaked in kerosene around the bites.

 

[shanrose]

@shanrose

I think I'd first find out what venous snakes you have in your area That you have to watch out for ..

Learn how to identify those one..

Do some research on their type of venom ...

Ask a local veterinarian and human doctor about/ or if self care can happen..

I know I only have 1 venous snake in my area..when..and where I'm more likely to encounter them..

I know sometimes they don't release their venom...warning bites happen..so how to know if you get the full package..

I know they have a constrictor look alike here that looks and rattles their tail to make it sound like their poisonous relative..but it's all for show.

I know since I've had chickens, turkeys and cats..I really see snakes around my place because they all eat mice rats and snakes..

Any other snake around here I have occasionally seen..I'm not concerned with..as I've only one I need to keep a eye out for.

And at least they are good at giving warnings..

 

[shanrose]

@shanrose

I think I'd first find out what venous snakes you have in your area That you have to watch out for ..

Learn how to identify those one..

Do some research on their type of venom ...

Ask a local veterinarian and human doctor about/ or if self care can happen..

I know I only have 1 venous snake in my area..when..and where I'm more likely to encounter them..

I know sometimes they don't release their venom...warning bites happen..so how to know if you get the full package..

I know they have a constrictor look alike here that looks and rattles their tail to make it sound like their poisonous relative..but it's all for show.

I know since I've had chickens, turkeys and cats..I really see snakes around my place because they all eat mice rats and snakes..

Any other snake around here I have occasionally seen..I'm not concerned with..as I've only one I need to keep a eye out for.

And at least they are good at giving warnings..

I already know that there's copperheads here. Our moving guy told me. That's why I'm trying to find some way to treat a bite since my hubby is always outside. I wanted to get a large dog - possibly a Shepard - but a family member has a rat terrier that is absolutely fearless. it drove back a huge bear on it's own - their other dogs did nothing. Terriers are supposed to be quick about killing snakes. I'm still on the fence though as I had wanted a bigger dog.

 

[shanrose]

My grandfather was bit by copperheads on two different occasions when he was a kid. He said his mother wrapped a rag soaked in kerosene around the bites.

That's really interesting. We have kerosene too.

 

[Pearl]

I already know that there's copperheads here. Our moving guy told me. That's why I'm trying to find some way to treat a bite since my hubby is always outside. I wanted to get a large dog - possibly a Shepard - but a family member has a rat terrier that is absolutely fearless. it drove back a huge bear on it's own - their other dogs did nothing. Terriers are supposed to be quick about killing snakes. I'm still on the fence though as I had wanted a bigger dog.

We keep little baggies with snake bite pills: 1 Benadryl, 1 Prednisone (10 mg), 1 Tramadol (50 mg), 1 l-lysine (1000 mg)! I take Loratadine (Claritin) instead of the Benadryl. If the dog gets bit he gets a baggie of pills! Copperheads are not a death sentence, my donkey, various dogs over the years, and cats, and of course myself have been bit! Painful and scary, but a 100,000$ trip to the hospital isn't worth it!!

 

[shanrose]

We keep little baggies with snake bite pills: 1 Benadryl, 1 Prednisone (10 mg), 1 Tramadol (50 mg), 1 l-lysine (1000 mg)! I take Loratadine (Claritin) instead of the Benadryl. If the dog gets bit he gets a baggie of pills! Copperheads are not a death sentence, my donkey, various dogs over the years, and cats, and of course myself have been bit! Painful and scary, but a 100,000$ trip to the hospital isn't worth it!!

I heard that anti-venom is expensive. How do you get prednisone and tramadol?

 

[Pearl]

I heard that anti-venom is expensive. How do you get prednisone and tramadol?

Most of the time for Copperheads the hospitals won't give anti venom! I can't really reveal how to get prescription drugs without a prescription!!

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Sulfpher water was one i heard about from my grandad born 1895.