Don't eat farm raised fish, of any kind

[LiveTrap]

Read this after buying some Salmon from a large grocery chain. Norway fish are bad. Chile fish are worse. Maybe USA raised is better, but who knows. Article says this is some of the most toxic human food on the planet. This may eventually be the source of the pandemic that some folks here fear. Fish are raised in a grossly overpopulated pool of feces, rotting fish pellets, dioxins, and insecticides. Massive amounts of antibiotics are dumped in to prevent the fish from dying before they can be harvested. This tends to produce super bacteria, so larger amounts and stronger antibiotics are always needed.
https://oceana.org/blog/chile’s-salmon-farms-may-use-more-antibiotics-any-other-meat-industry-’s-big-problem

 

[DrHenley]

Generally that's true. But U.S. catfish farms have to follow much higher standards. My uncle had a catfish farm in the Mississippi Delta next to our farm. His partner had a PhD in Catfish Farming from Auburn University Fisheries Dept. Fresh water was pumped into the ponds from wells continually. Those fish were very clean, and the difference in taste between those fish and imported is unbelievable.

We don't eat any catfish other than Mississippi Farm Raised.

Pond raised salmon makes my wife sick. She can only eat wild caught Alaska salmon.

 

[Proud Prepper]

I never eat the farm raised crap. Exception local farmed catfish as Doc, mentioned.

 

[lonewolf]

Farmed salmon are the worst infected, I don't like salmon, I prefer mackerel.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Wild caught fish only for me.

 

[DrHenley]

Wild caught fish only for me.

The rivers are a lot cleaner up your way, LOL

 

[user 7704]

What I heard was worst is the Chinese Tilapia. Yes, they feed them human feces. Yummy

I love catfish and crappie caught out of the lake.

 

[DrHenley]

What I heard was worst is the Chinese Tilapia. Yes, they feed them human feces. Yummy

I always knew something was wrong with tilapia, LOL.

 

[Psalm7]

Tilapia are used to clean up catfish pounds . They have escaped during floods and have started populations in some Southern States . There has been a record one caught in TN .

 

[VenomJockey]

Read this after buying some Salmon from a large grocery chain. Norway fish are bad. Chile fish are worse. Maybe USA raised is better, but who knows. Article says this is some of the most toxic human food on the planet. This may eventually be the source of the pandemic that some folks here fear. Fish are raised in a grossly overpopulated pool of feces, rotting fish pellets, dioxins, and insecticides. Massive amounts of antibiotics are dumped in to prevent the fish from dying before they can be harvested. This tends to produce super bacteria, so larger amounts and stronger antibiotics are always needed.
https://oceana.org/blog/chile’s-salmon-farms-may-use-more-antibiotics-any-other-meat-industry-’s-big-problem

It is the massive use of antibiotics that is the real sticky issue here....and with all the "seafood farms" (fish, shrimp, oysters, etc.) it's just a question of time before the bugs become immune to all antibiotics. What then? "Super-bugs" is an understatement!! There are ALREADY dozens of diseases that don't respond to conventional antibiotic treatment...and the problem just snowballs as the bugs develop resistance to new/more powerful antibiotics.

https://www.nrdc.org/save-antibiotics?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImOKZho6N5wIVFqSzCh1eUgM3EAAYASAAEgLYPvD_BwE

Excerpt: "Antibiotics save millions of lives each year by fighting off bacterial infections. They have been the backbone of medicine, yet many of us take them for granted. With the global spread of bacterial superbugs, more and more infections are now much harder—or even impossible—to treat with antibiotics. In fact, antibiotic resistance has been identified as a top health crisis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization."

 

[Brent S]

I watched a documentary about the fish we eat. In most markets close to 50% of the fish isn’t what it is labeled. Even if you try to eat farm raised or wild caught, unless you caught it yourself you don’t really know what it is.
On a positive here though, I have been trying to eat better for a while now. I’ve never really liked fish unless it’s batter fried, which negates any healthiness. I’ve read so much about salmon in particular being heart healthy. I had blackened salmon recently and it was pretty good. Yes it’s grilled in some butter but still better than deep fried in oil. Life is sometimes about compromise....

 

[Brent S]

What I heard was worst is the Chinese Tilapia. Yes, they feed them human feces. Yummy

I love catfish and crappie caught out of the lake.

I knew of chicken manure, which was bad enough!

 

[BillMasen]

Many farmed fish are dosed with anti biotics at high levels, pesticides to reduce the parasites that flourished in fish pens, colour enhancing chemicals to make the fish look tastier, preservatives like formaldehyde to make them last longer on the shelves, and hormones to increase growth rates. We only eat wild caught sea food from the north sea like Cod, Haddock and Crab. Its not much btter with BEEF unfortunately because in the US they use Hormones and in the UK Antibiotics in the mass produced herds, so we dont eat as much beef as we used to, only organic grown beef. As for pork its only organic bacon we eat of the kind that not treated with chemicals including Nitrates.

All the water used to drink or cook with is ran through filters now, we simply do not trust any source of municipal water.

 

[user 7704]

When my husband had his restaurant, the food distributor told me that 90% of the time you order catfish, it isn't.

Everyone knows that crab salads, etc aren't real crab

 

[Brent S]

Many farmed fish are dosed with anti biotics at high levels, pesticides to reduce the parasites that flourished in fish pens, colour enhancing chemicals to make the fish look tastier, preservatives like formaldehyde to make them last longer on the shelves, and hormones to increase growth rates. We only eat wild caught sea food from the north sea like Cod, Haddock and Crab. Its not much btter with BEEF unfortunately because in the US they use Hormones and in the UK Antibiotics in the mass produced herds, so we dont eat as much beef as we used to, only organic grown beef. As for pork its only organic bacon we eat of the kind that not treated with chemicals including Nitrates.

All the water used to drink or cook with is ran through filters now, we simply do not trust any source of municipal water.

I eat out more than I should so am sure I eat a lot of things that aren’t good for you. Even when eating out there are better choices though. I completely agree with the water, I filter everything I drink. Even with my house being on a clean well.

 

[DrHenley]

When my husband had his restaurant, the food distributor told me that 90% of the time you order catfish, it isn't.

Everyone knows that crab salads, etc aren't real crab

It's not just catfish. A group of Vietnamese fish known as pangasius (genus Pangasianodon) are sold as catfish, grouper, red snapper, cod, etc. In fact, when you order "whitefish" it is likely to be Vietnamese pangasius.

They can thrive in conditions that most other fish cannot even survive, which is why the pond conditions can be so bad. They can gulp air at the surface if the oxygen level is too low which means they can be grown in extremely high density ponds. American catfish farmers have to watch O2 levels like a hawk because a drop in oxygen on a cloudy windless day can kill off entire ponds.

https://oceana.org/blog/you’re-probably-eating-asian-catfish-without-knowing-it-should-you-be-worried

A 2015 investigation, for example, found that more than a third of 19 restaurants in Atlanta were selling pangasius as grouper. In 2009, the president of a Virginia-based import company was sentenced to five years in prison and ordered to pay $12 million after he fraudulently re-christened $15 million worth of pangasius as six other species.

 

[user 7704]

I'm not surprised.

 

[BillMasen]

Oddly enough healthy grown Pangasius are a darn good food fish, they taste similar to cod, they are a good fish to keep in a pond at home for prepper home grown fish, Most folks buy them as youngsters from Aquarium shops and grow em to food size.

 

[BillMasen]

I guess the only answer to supplying our families with healthy food is to buy PROVEN organic produce, Hunt for it or grow it yourself.

 

[Psalm7]

Wild or farmed any fish or livestock can be contaminated with the same toxins or pathogens . But anything in a pond or enclosure could have higher concentrations .

 

[user 7704]

I guess the only answer to supplying our families with healthy food is to buy PROVEN organic produce, Hunt for it or grow it yourself.

That's why I grow as much as I can. Wish I could raise a few calves, but I would have to clear land, build barn, build fence and rob bank to get the money.

 

[GaRp58]

Good morning prepping family. Been busy building in a kitchen cabinet countertop for an old friend. Thought the fish thing was not really so bad for a while, but after reading the info here, changed my mind. Eat octopus sometimes, fresh fish at the restaurant which is prepared in front of me, (in Germany). In Hungary we have armed Rangers now. They have had a few injured and one dead Ranger after they were checking the fishers more often. Seems the poachers have been taking generators to the Donau, putting cables into the river and hooking them up to the generators and shocking the fish to harvest them. Would not be so bad if the shocks only got the bigger fish, seems the Donau almost lost all of the baby fish of all species from this practise...Totally forbidden to fish in the Donau at the moment. It's like closing the whole Mississippi down to fishing! Again, 1% of the dumbf***s creating a problem for the rest of the legal world. GP

 

[DrHenley]

Seems the poachers have been taking generators to the Donau, putting cables into the river and hooking them up to the generators and shocking the fish to harvest them.

That's normally how they fish down in Rellgar's neck of the woods

 

[Proud Prepper]

That's normally how they fish down in Rellgar's neck of the woods

No, lol, we know how to fish down here. We would never do anything like that to destroy our population cycle. Now gillnets are a thing