Earth's magnetic North Pole has begun moving erratically

[Maverick]

This has been going on for sometime, just that the reversal is faster than expected. Don’t buy into a TEOTWAWKI event that some youtubers are going to push, it’s a normal earth cycle

“Scientists warn Earth's magnetic North Pole has begun moving erratically at speeds of 50km a year”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...egun-moving-erratically-speeds-50km-year.html

 

[jontte]

nice,just when I begun to "learn the compass again"

just wondering how this will impact my mortar jockey duties....

 

[jimLE]

Does this mean that all of the lil birdies will now fly upside down?

 

[Mountain trapper]

The shifting poles are a natural earth cycle, just like climate change is. So where are all pole shift nutjobs trying to blame Man for the shifting poles? Oh yeah, there's no money to be made.

 

[Maverick]

nice,just when I begun to "learn the compass again"

just wondering how this will impact my mortar jockey duties....

lol, unless the declination is moving faster than 1 meter per minute probably not much impact, although the compass can get a little tricky, hopefully the map is updated and the declination is adjusted correctly.

 

[Maverick]

Does this mean that all of the lil birdies will now fly upside down?

Whats weirder than birds flying upside down is Australia going to be in the northern hemisphere.. that's fxxked up

 

[Brent S]

The shifting poles are a natural earth cycle, just like climate change is. So where are all pole shift nutjobs trying to blame Man for the shifting poles? Oh yeah, there's no money to be made.

It’s trumps fault! Lmao

 

[Brent S]

I read this when the story broke and am still not really sure what to make of it. The poles have reversed many times in the past but that was pre gps days. As long as google maps continues to work I’m good I guess....

 

[tmttactical]

The only time I used GPS was when I was scouting out property. I used Google Earth and it did save my a lot of drive time, eliminating unsuitable property.

 

[Brent S]

The only time I used GPS was when I was scouting out property. I used Google Earth and it did save my a lot of drive time, eliminating unsuitable property.

We drive a lot with our business and google maps is an absolute must for us. When there’s a wreck, or traffic is heavier than normal it will redirect you around it. One time it told me to turn in behind a plaza, not a road, but actually go around behind it. I thought it must be a mistake so ingored it and went to the intersection. The traffic mess cost me twenty minutes. Now I trust her. Not only does she give great directions but she even whispers in my ear (Bluetooth sincs with my hearing aids) and tells me what to do.....

 

[DrHenley]

On our last trip, Google Maps diverted us around a 20 mile long traffic jam.

 

[Maverick]

No doubt navigational devices (including on the smart phones) have come a long way in the last 5 years and I have noticed on my iPhone has made a big leap forward in accuracy on the map and navigation just in the last year, at least in my region.

 

[Silent Earth]

Just passin through and will leave a thought. IF the Poles flip so the North pole is replaced by the South pole does that mean North Dakota and North Carolina become South Dakota and South Carolina, and South Dakota and South Carolina become North Dakota and North Carolina?? Does South America become North America and ViceVersa. Will Americans start migrating south, Will we start chanting " The North shall rise again" Will Northerners suddenly start talking slower and become polite? Toodles

Hah and as the pole swap takes hundreds of years at some point North and South Dakota / Carolina will be East and West Carolina and Dakota,

 

[jontte]

you gave me a headache SE....

 

[Maverick]

lol, I can see it now, the Governors going to the borders holding a ceremony exchanging of flags

 

[Brent S]

Made me laugh SE! All I’m sure of is I couldn’t imagine going back to paper maps at this point. We cover an area of about two hundred miles from our shop, in all directions. I would have paid google ten times more for the service! Which just so happens to be free by the way.

 

[Maverick]

I think when it does happen (field reversal) we will be in an era of the artificial North preventing name changes otherwise street naming will be a little confusing, or they will stop using NW, SE, South, North etc... in street names.

 

[KateMTx]

I've heard different opinions on this - that it's TEOTWAWKI and that it's normal/no big deal/nothing to worry about. I can see that it would make traditional compass navigation quite a bit more difficult. Since GPS is by satellites I don't think it would be affected.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Maybe the pole shift is being caused by too many people tilting the planet. So now everyone needs to move to the equator to stop the shift or the sea levels are going to rise.

 

[Maverick]

I've heard different opinions on this - that it's TEOTWAWKI and that it's normal/no big deal/nothing to worry about. I can see that it would make traditional compass navigation quite a bit more difficult. Since GPS is by satellites I don't think it would be affected.

Satellites can be re-calibrated, navigating by compass/map one just needs to know the declination for the area and adjust. in a TEOTWAWKI event both can be a problem, just determine the known speed of the declination change one can adjust it themselves though crude and not as accurate, it would get one closes enough, most satellites are re-calibrated every 5 years, maps are updated every 5 years, I think maritime navigational charts are updated every 2 years to reflect declination changes. NOAA has a web site that reflects current declination changes but the web site is down do to the government shutdown; http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag-web/

This gives an short example of declination about a quarter way down the page; http://doomsdayprepperforums.com/index.php?threads/navigation-the-compass-and-map.6202/

 

[Brent S]

They had a set schedule to recalibrate the gps satellites but had to do it earlier than expected due to the increase in the rate of change. It’s mostly noticeable at the poles, but I don’t think it’s too alarming for now. I hope there are no unforeseen consequences from this but only time will tell. It’s interesting anyways.

 

[DrHenley]

Highly technical article about a study of why the magnetic poles are always roughly aligned with the axis of rotation:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC433892/pdf/pnas00074-0134.pdf

 

[TexasFreedom]

The shifting poles are a natural earth cycle, just like climate change is. So where are all pole shift nutjobs trying to blame Man for the shifting poles? Oh yeah, there's no money to be made.

Haha. AD, just wait. They haven't figured out YET how to get money out of this... They will, just wait.

Just passin through and will leave a thought. IF the Poles flip so the North pole is replaced by the South pole does that mean North Dakota and North Carolina become South Dakota and South Carolina, and South Dakota and South Carolina become North Dakota and North Carolina?? Does South America become North America and ViceVersa. Will Americans start migrating south, Will we start chanting " The North shall rise again" Will Northerners suddenly start talking slower and become polite? Toodles
Hah and as the pole swap takes hundreds of years at some point North and South Dakota / Carolina will be East and West Carolina and Dakota,

OR, will our toilets start flushing counterclockwise instead of clockwise... I want to know!

 

[DrHenley]

OR, will our toilets start flushing counterclockwise instead of clockwise... I want to know!

The earth would have to reverse the direction of rotation for that to happen.

 

[jimLE]

The earth would have to reverse the direction of rotation for that to happen.

Or.just look at it upside down.and hope for the best..

 

[KateMTx]

Haha. AD, just wait. They haven't figured out YET how to get money out of this... They will, just wait.



OR, will our toilets start flushing counterclockwise instead of clockwise... I want to know!

That's (supposedly) due to the rotation of the earth, not the magnetic field, so unfortunately not. There is also the fact that the coriolis effect does not really act on things that small. But the rotation of the earth is the reason the magnetic poles are aligned the way they are, so if the rotation changes then the magnetic poles certainly would as well.

 

[Maverick]

The magnetic field controls both inner and outer core's direction and speed with both spinning in opposite directions at different speeds. The earth rotation is what causes the magnetic field, the gravity of the moon has more to do with rotation