EMP safe zones

[VenomJockey]

http://www.askaprepper.com/the-safe-zones-after-an-emp/

 

[Maverick]

Some of the writings are way off, and I hope that map wasn't intended to be accurate top of the OP link, we have no nuclear reactors in Washington or Idaho at this time, also the listed projected targets under First US Targets to be Nuked, totally inaccurate. One or two HEMPs 250-300 miles up over Nebraska is enough to take down the grid by cascading affect. Seems like the Author of the article watch too many youtube videos? Also, NK have not perfected nukes base satellites, they were just getting handle on nuke mounted ICBMs nor perfected OTH re-entry (yet)

 

[VenomJockey]

Some of the writings are way off, and I hope that map wasn't intended to be accurate top of the OP link, we have no nuclear reactors in Washington or Idaho at this time, also the listed projected targets under First US Targets to be Nuked, totally inaccurate. One or two HEMPs 250-300 miles up over Nebraska is enough to take down the grid by cascading affect. Seems like the Author of the article watch too many youtube videos? Also, NK have not perfected nukes base satellites, they were just getting handle on nuke mounted ICBMs nor perfected OTH re-entry (yet)

Is there a current, accurate map online?

 

[tmttactical]

Well darn, I did get a surprise in that my beautiful Arizona does have 3 nuclear reactors about 50 miles west of Phoenix. That sucks. I kind of hoped we were nuclear free. Oh well can't have everything. Prevailing winds, east to west.

 

[Maverick]

Is there a current, accurate map online?

The last map was 1984 and that was reprint from 1965, the DoD has never publicly released targeted map. Most maps we see online are from the FEMA release reprinted 65 declassification because of old targeting maps from the 1956 DoD papers. Most modern maps on youtube and blogs are redrawn maps from armchair generals that have no clue.

 

[lonewolf]

I expect the only EMP safe zones are where there is no human infrastructure.

 

[Maverick]

Useful tool for sheltering in place.

Nomograph Instructions with Nomograph (PDF below) It's a easy tool to learn and use

Print the Nomograph (PDF) below

First find what the Rate is per hour where you are at. That is the column on the left.
(Listen to the radio.) DOSE RATE (Rads/hr) in the where it says in left column

Then how many hours since the bomb hit, That is the column on the right. TIME (HR)
Above the word fallout. Then with a straight edge ruler draw a line from the Dose Rat Per hour
to the Hours since the hit. The center column marked Unit-Time Reference Dose Rate (Rads/HR)
has numbers starting at 10, 000 down to 0.01

Lets do an example for you. Say you learn the dose Rate is 10 (Rads/HR) per hour,
and it has been about 15 hours since the bomb. So draw a line from 10 in the left column to
15 hours in the right column. Your line will extend to the word Time
IN the center column you make a point at 250. That's your point. (Mark it)

Now in the left column near the bottom find 0.4 the next mark up means 0. 5 OR 1/2 RAD.
Draw a line from 0. 5 through the 250 in center column and you will see that your shelter stay
needs to be about 175 hours OR 7 1/4 days. Have water for a week!

Now once you hear of the outside Dose PER HOUR you can compute your shelter stay.
Using the 250 reference point you can calculate what the Dose Rate will be at 40 hours.
Put a line from 40 hours in the right column to 250 in the center column and it will extend down to 3 Rads
PER hour in the left column. So at 40 hours you can go out for about 1 hour and 45 minutes.
Keep your dose below 5 Rads! Per day if you want to live.

Keep in mind, the DOSE RATE, anything above 0.4 you don't want to be outside for long duration. Also keep
in mind, the potassium iodide pills, you shouldn't take more than three days and generally over the age of 40
you dont have to take them unless you gota sudden blast of radiation. Potassium iodide pills is basicly an escape
pill.

Radios won't be reliable giving hour of blast and or current reading of Rads/Hr and if they do it may not be in
your immediate location, having a Geiger Counter will solve a lot of it, don't get a field survey meter, they
are more set for high Rad measurements, measuring low Rads is just as important as high Rads when determining time
of sheltering.

 

[TexasFreedom]

With an EMP, there is no nuclear fallout. No worries about rads & dying from radiation within 30 days. Instead 90% of the population will slowly starve or kill each other over food/supplies.

The only variety of "EMP-safe zones" is far, far from population locations.

 

[Maverick]

With an EMP, there is no nuclear fallout. No worries about rads & dying from radiation within 30 days. Instead 90% of the population will slowly starve or kill each other over food/supplies.

The only variety of "EMP-safe zones" is far, far from population locations.

No fallout with HEMP, problem is, a HEMP isn't going to be the only missiles in the air. Fallout will be a problem. First comes the HEMP followed by a series of Primary nuclear weapons. SILOS, SAC, C&C, COMS targets will follow a EMP/HEMP attack. Secondary attack will take out RR switching stations, nuclear power plants, dams and Airports with runways of 10,000ft Commercial/Military.

 

[tmttactical]

No fallout with HEMP, problem is, a HEMP isn't going to be the only missiles in the air. Fallout will be a problem. First comes the HEMP followed by a series of Primary nuclear weapons. SILOS, SAC, C&C, COMS targets will follow a EMP/HEMP attack. Secondary attack will take out RR switching stations, nuclear power plants, dams and Airports with runways of 10,000ft Commercial/Military.

AND that folks is the real picture and also why I don't see an EMP attack happing. Mutually Assured Destruction --- MAD is still a reality--- nobody wins --- everybody loses. All the would be world rulers have generals that will wage war for their fearless leader but none of them are willing to sacrifice themselves, their families, their country and the whole world for their leader. JM2C

 

[Maverick]

I don't see an EMP attack either, an EMP attack is a guarantee war!

 

[Kootenay prepper]

I might be wrong Maverick. Does Columbia generating station near Richland Wa have nuclear reactors. I’m northeast of that location in BC so just curious if it’s still active.

 

[Maverick]

I might be wrong Maverick. Does Columbia generating station near Richland Wa have nuclear reactors. I’m northeast of that location in BC so just curious if it’s still active.

The columbia generating station in Richland is running but I was referring to Eastern Washington that they had as a target on the map. The columbia generating plant is up around a ton of nuclear target such as the Lewis-Mccord airbase, Naval Base Kitsap where the Trident subs so that's already a targeted area regardless of the columbia nuclear plant.

Fairchild airbase in Eastern Washington is no longer part of SAC, it is a refueling wing part of the 92d Air Refueling Wing. All 9 of the Titan I missile silos near Spokane have long been abandon, the Hanford site (part of the Manhattan Project) is now a Federal Park.

When I was a kid driving to northern Idaho visiting family from Camas Washington we would see Nike missiles from Hanford to Spokane. Today nothing exist along them routs not even the SAC bombers.

 

[Kootenay prepper]

That makes sense Maverick doesn’t make sense having eastern Washington on the map as a target