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Aside from historical artifacts, there is nothing worth seeing on the that side of the world. Europeans in general will never like Americans because we are everything they wish they could be. Independent, courageous, proud and free to do/say whatever we please.
 
there are different people here too,but then again perhaps I'm not that european ;)
I'm the crazy willing to take an adversary head on..despite the outcome is what it is..and that freedom you take for granted,just be careful or it's gone.
 
I do not mean to paint with a broad brush or offend, by the way. Just speaking in generalities. There are good people everywhere, but the disdain for America is tangible in many parts of Europe.
 
it is,even here in my neck of woods :( darn it,we have even those "old school" commies that wish for a russian take-over...
and no pun taken fellow prepper :)
 
,you know I have been thinking about this,and really what have they done for us lately beside helping Obama try to turn the USA into them,and didn't the American people leave that part of the world because of oppression ,,,,,,we bailed the ******** out twice during the 1st and 2nd world war,now I bear no ill will towards the EU but it's their choice,,,,,,
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we have members that are from EU and I hope no one takes my words as a personal attack it is not intended to be
 
what you have to remember is that the EU is run by Germany, who started 2 world wars? yes Germany, they wanted to run Europe and now they have done it, not by firing a shot but by using politics and money instead.
 
There are good and bad people everywhere (I suppose there may even a couple good people in the ME too). But who has allowed the politicians to take control of Europe? I would say that the people are getting the government they wanted.
 
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There are good and bad people everywhere (I suppose there may even a couple good people in the ME too). But who has allowed the politicians to take control of Europe? I would say that the people are getting the government they wanted.

Ah what it is that the Europeans and Brits have swallowed hook line and sinker the promises made by the Socialists and left of let us govern unchecked and in return we will house you, educate you, take care of your health needs, etc all you have to do is TRUST US because we know best. Give us control and we will look after everything.

Its Exactly as that old American adage warns. " Those who give up freedom and liberty for some temporary sense of security, deserve neither Liberty nor Security.

Subsidised schools, subsidised council houses, subsidised healthcare, subsidised state pensions, subsidised buses and trains, Local tax benefits, free nursery places, free retirement homes, free opthalmic and dental care, Free prescription drugs for many. And of course the sheep bought right into it without ever questioning WHO WILL PAY THE PIPER?. So Income tax starts at 20% rising to 40% over £34,000, Add another 14 % National insurance. 20% VAT ( purchase tax) 15% Fuel tax . Tax on pensions, tax on savings, tax on profits. The ruling elite award themselves massive salaries and bonuses, they protect themselves with armed bodyguards and live in secure areas.

The sheeple happily walked THEMSELVES to the slaughterhouse.
 
,you know I have been thinking about this,and really what have they done for us lately beside helping Obama try to turn the USA into them,and didn't the American people leave that part of the world because of oppression ,,,,,,we bailed the ******** out twice during the 1st and 2nd world war,now I bear no ill will towards the EU but it's their choice,,,,,,
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we have members that are from EU and I hope no one takes my words as a personal attack it is not intended to be

I 100% agree with your very wise comments about the Americans Leaving Europe to get away from such oppression in the 1770 you are absolutely right ( thats why I dont understand why any Merkin would ever vote Democrat. But I cannot disagree more strongly with your comments about saving our *****, it is utterly wrong and totally innacurate.

FYI WW1 the US did not join into WW1 until 1917 long after it started in 1914 and by then Germany was staring to death and collapsing.

In WW2 the US did not join in until December 1941 the war started in Sept 39 and by Dec 41 the tide of war had already turned against Germany.
You did not rush to OUR aid, We rushed to YOUR aid when the Japanese attacked pearl Harbour, The Brits, Canuks, Aussies, Kiwis, South Africans, Indians and Rhodesians Immediattely sent OUR Battle ships, Cruisers, Carriers etc in the Pacific to protect your remaining fleet. And we stayed protecting your carriers until the end.

America made a MASSIVE and UNREPAYABLE contribution to us in WW2 a debt I dont think we will ever be able to repay in full, But you did NOT save our *****. But I am the first to admit the war would hve gone on until 1950 without your help.
 
I 100% agree with your very wise comments about the Americans Leaving Europe to get away from such oppression in the 1770 you are absolutely right ( thats why I dont understand why any Merkin would ever vote Democrat. But I cannot disagree more strongly with your comments about saving our *****, it is utterly wrong and totally innacurate.

FYI WW1 the US did not join into WW1 until 1917 long after it started in 1914 and by then Germany was staring to death and collapsing.

In WW2 the US did not join in until December 1941 the war started in Sept 39 and by Dec 41 the tide of war had already turned against Germany.
You did not rush to OUR aid, We rushed to YOUR aid when the Japanese attacked pearl Harbour, The Brits, Canuks, Aussies, Kiwis, South Africans, Indians and Rhodesians Immediattely sent OUR Battle ships, Cruisers, Carriers etc in the Pacific to protect your remaining fleet. And we stayed protecting your carriers until the end.

America made a MASSIVE and UNREPAYABLE contribution to us in WW2 a debt I dont think we will ever be able to repay in full, But you did NOT save our *****. But I am the first to admit the war would hve gone on until 1950 without your help.
I am not going to debate the 1st or 2nd world war maybe I used a poor choice of words,,,nothing against anyone in the EU but I have no intentions of ever traveling outside the USA, so I have no use for Europe,I will never visit that part of the world,with the way things are today I would not feel safe doing so,hell I stay out of large US cities these days for the simple fact that there is to much crime these days
 
heck, I don't even go into British cities never mind European ones-I don't even have a passport and the way things are in Germany or Sweden i'll never go there.
 
With Trump increasing military spending by 65 billion, I'd say we are headed to a war with someone.
 
Clinton would have ramped it up also considering her hatred for Russia,,,,,,,,,,while Reagan was in office he set records for military spending yet we had no major conflicts
With Trump increasing military spending by 65 billion, I'd say we are headed to a war with someone.


is that what you want,,,,so you can sit back and say see I told you Trump was bad
 
Clinton would have ramped it up also considering her hatred for Russia,,,,,,,,,,while Reagan was in office he set records for military spending yet we had no major conflicts



is that what you want,,,,so you can sit back and say see I told you Trump was bad


I can already say with conviction that Trump is terrible for America. I would never in a billion years hope that thousands of young poor and middle class Americans are sent overseas to die on the whim of a politician.
 
I can already say with conviction that Trump is terrible for America. I would never in a billion years hope that thousands of young poor and middle class Americans are sent overseas to die on the whim of a politician.
well you are out of luck there,politicians never fight their own wars,,,I wish the ******** that start wars had to stand on the front lines with the troops,but that will never happen
 
I can already say with conviction that Trump is terrible for America. I would never in a billion years hope that thousands of young poor and middle class Americans are sent overseas to die on the whim of a politician.
If it's on our own turf I understand though. And you never know these days. Maybe trump knows something we don't. It is too hard to say!
 

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