now, I keep on reading on various forums about farms and farming . I believe that term is misleading especially from a British point of view. I believe post SHTF we will be referring to what the Brits call "smallholdings" at the very most, as without fuel for farm machinery and fertilisers and chemicals we will be looking at "subsistence farming" and everything will be done with hand tools, so we are talking more like "allotments" or large vegetable gardens at most an acre or two, maybe a maximum of 5 acres if we can scrape up an animal or two(see John Seymour's "the complete guide to self sufficiency"), its also about how much land one can manage and how much land one can secure from outside scavengers and raiders.