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I recently found this really great food: http://bioarmorbodyfuel.com/
It tastes great and has a shelf life of 15 years without all the preservatives, but I'm not looking to spend thousands on food storage. I'm not looking to fill a room with it either. I see everything that is going on and have recently stocked up on guns and ammo, but how much food do I need? What do people think is enough for a beginner prepper to get in quick to have on hand?
 
If you are staying put, try to get at least a few weeks worth of food and water together to start with. You can build on that as you go. It's important to store what you know you like and to make sure you are going to have the calorie intake needed to stay alive and factor in if you will be doing demanding physical labor.
 
I suggested starting small because for some people, trying to stock up a year's worth of food can be daunting.

I don't fool with the stuff that you can get online in buckets and whatnot. I just stock what we normally eat because I know we will eat it. Just my 2 cents though.
 
LOL, no not at all. Most of our meat is still on the hoof and most of our stores consisted of home canned meats, fruits, veg, and soups. I also keep plenty of staples here as well. What is in the freezer can be cooked up and eaten or processed and canned on the wood cook stove.
 
OMG! I think I need a man. I am not skinning and cutting up anything on hoof. And all that canning and stuff is not for me. Susie home maker I am not. I think I better stick to the meal packets. I won't even buy the cans of individual ingredients, because I am not mixing and cooking anything. lol Guns, Ammo and meals in a pouch, that is about the extent of things for me. Shoot
 
Everyone has different needs and you have to do what you are comfortable doing. Don't forget lots of water to rehydrate your food.
 
OMG! I think I need a man. I am not skinning and cutting up anything on hoof. And all that canning and stuff is not for me. Susie home maker I am not. I think I better stick to the meal packets. I won't even buy the cans of individual ingredients, because I am not mixing and cooking anything. lol Guns, Ammo and meals in a pouch, that is about the extent of things for me. Shoot
That can get very costly
 
LOL, no not at all. Most of our meat is still on the hoof and most of our stores consisted of home canned meats, fruits, veg, and soups. I also keep plenty of staples here as well. What is in the freezer can be cooked up and eaten or processed and canned on the wood cook stove.
How long do foods typically last that you "can" yourself?
 
Hmmm... well to give you an idea, I have opened a jar of 6 year old tomato sauce this week and it was fine and dandy, better than store bought. The trick with home canned foods lasting is to keep them out of the light or they will discolor and degrade a bit. I do my best to rotate all the home canned foods with each season, but sometimes a jar will get misplaced. If the lid is bulging, the jar is unsealed, the contents bubbling, contents smell funky, or look off; don't even smell the contents. Take it somewhere to bury or burn so animals do not get into it. Wash that jar good with bleach and reuse it. Don't store your canned foods with the rings on, they can rust and cause the seal to fail. I've been canning all of my adult life and most of my childhood as well and I've only personally had 4 jars of food spoil in many years.
 
A 8kg bag of rice will last someone about 2 weeks, which can be mixed up with a variety of wild edibles, and lawn weeds such as dried dandelion leaves.

Figuring 2 weeks per bag this works out to about 12 bags of rice which you can probably get for around $100 or less.

Protein powder or your protien source will be your expensive item. Raising meet is an option.

You can get about a month supply of protien powder for $40 or less so you shoud be looking at about $500 or less with any luck. Picking it up locally is the way to go if you can find a place that offers a low rate without shipping costs or offers free shipping.

forgot to add picking up a few containers of multivitamins maybe $20-$30 worth might be good too.

1kg of salt costs less than 1$
 
Good suggestions William. I don't know how much your rice is up there where you are, but I can buy 20 pound sacks of it for less than $10 here.

Protein powder is a good idea as well, just got to watch it close if it has whey powder in it. I've had to use it before for medical reasons and that's what the nutritionist told me. If you know of a good protein powder that is sugar-free and is drinkable without being made with milk, please let me know.
 
I forgot to add you should ration about 5grams of oil per day too. this works out to 1kg of olive oil or other oil type, you might want to stock a bit more than that as it like salt makes rice taste really good.

Forgot to add wheat and making hardtack is an alternate option, but rice is a bit more consumer freindly and doesn't require much preparation, all you need to do is just soak it, and if you can get away with cooking it the next day it cooks fast after soaking for a day.
 
WilliamAshley....that is gross haha
But I get your point...I'll eat that stuff if I have to, but my neighbors will be missing their pets first ;)
 
How long do foods typically last that you "can" yourself?

After about 18 months some correctly canned food starts to change in taste. By 24 months what we haven't eaten is thrown out. I would say after 2 years it's not worth keeping. I keep all canned foods where it's cool and dark. The cooler and darker the better.

I personally don't care as much for home canned food as it has an overcooked taste that you don't get in commercially canned foods. They commercially can things so fast and at so high a temperature that it's not overdone as in a home pressure canner. Given a choice I would eat fresh or frozen vegetables any day.
 
Oh an alternative to raising meat is growing earth worms, or maggots, or other larva....

No need to kill animals for protein. A cow or goat will produce plenty of milk and you can make cheese. Laying hens will produce plenty of eggs over the warm months. We can all live nicely without meat if we have to.
 
OMG! I think I need a man. I am not skinning and cutting up anything on hoof. And all that canning and stuff is not for me. Susie home maker I am not. I think I better stick to the meal packets

Have you ever tried those meal packets? Most are pretty poor excuses for the real thing. You may not have a choice but to learn to cook when and if the SHTF.

What do you eat now? Do you eat in restaurants every day?

I won't even buy the cans of individual ingredients, because I am not mixing and cooking anything. lol Guns, Ammo and meals in a pouch, that is about the extent of things for me. Shoot

Are you living on those meal packets now?
 
I recently found this really great food: http://bioarmorbodyfuel.com/
It tastes great and has a shelf life of 15 years without all the preservatives, ....

Has the company been in business at leas that long?

...but I'm not looking to spend thousands on food storage. I'm not looking to fill a room with it either. I see everything that is going on and have recently stocked up on guns and ammo, but how much food do I need?

How many people will you hoarding for? Just you? Start weighing everything you eat for a week. Food scales are cheap. You will then know how many pounds to store for any given length of time. Do the same for coffee, tea, beer or whatever else you drink in a week. You can't eat or drink guns and ammo. And if you do kill someone, you will be held accountable when law and order is restored.

What do people think is enough for a beginner prepper to get in quick to have on hand?

As much food as possible, and drinkable water. And in case chaos reins for more than a few months, some extra clothing.
 
How long do foods typically last that you "can" yourself?

A few years ago we moved into my husband's grandmother's house. I spent last summer cleaning out her basement. She still had canned foods from the 1970's........I dumped stuff and loaded 100's of jar's into our kid's baby swimming pool, soaking with hot rain water and bleach before scrubbing. What a nasty job. Surprisingly, a lot of the food, soups and especially grape juice, was still very good looking. I put up a run of soup last summer and the whole thing spoiled-I added noodles which expanded, causing the lids to pop off. Smelled like rotten vomit........The other batches made without noodles kept fine, we eat it often. Great way to use up tomatoes.
 
Good suggestions William. I don't know how much your rice is up there where you are, but I can buy 20 pound sacks of it for less than $10 here.

Protein powder is a good idea as well, just got to watch it close if it has whey powder in it. I've had to use it before for medical reasons and that's what the nutritionist told me. If you know of a good protein powder that is sugar-free and is drinkable without being made with milk, please let me know.

What is this about whey? I've only encountered information stating it is one of the best protein powders out there.

It is soy protein that is dangerous to consume in large quantities especially for guys.

It is better than rice protein also because it is a complete protein, kindly supply more info on any issues you know of in regard to whey.

If it is lactose intolerance, I am very mildly lactose intolerant... WHEY isolate has most of the lactose removed. also the ALLWHEY brand mix I just got is very low lactose also due to having a bunch of enzymes such as lactase added to it.
If your medical issue is lactose intolerance get whey isolate, or something that has digestive aids added to it such as the Allwhey I had, relatively economical price for 10lbs it ran around $120 so about $12/lb. of 80% protein. Its not cheap but I find it very useful since I lead a mostly vegan/vegetarian lifestyle, although I do eat most anything, I tend to only buy fish/eggs and where it occurs dairy products, but I tend to not buy processed dairy.

There is egg protein
There is a bunch of others also whey tends to be the lowest in price in terms of bang for buck.

If you eat meat there are plenty of alternatives,
the 10lb allwhey allows for 2 months at 60grams per day, which is enough to boost protein intake, since 40 grams from other sources is doable on rice/lentils/beans etc.. for 100gram intake goal. 40grams natural source 60 grams whey nutritional blend which includes taurine, glycerol, digestive enzymes and some amino acids (bcaa's) its a mix whey isolate concentrate mix for fast absorption and slow release. If I was a serious body builder I could double my intake and do $4 a day instead of $2/day but I'm fine at about 1-1.2x body weight intake.
I tend to trust the whey way more than commercial slaughter and processed meats, it just seems like a cleaner source.

I'm also thinking a quick fix if the "mass gainer" products out there as they tend to be high calory, but they are costly.

I've been aiming for some RTL hens, but no one delivers out here... 3 or 4 hens would supply me with enough eggs to keep my protein level mint.


In terms of whey powder a 6 month supply at 60 grams a day runs at about $360 which works out to 30lbs or 6 5lb containers, you might be able to get a better price. It is an easy fix to insure protein.


Fats are easy with olive oil, or hard stuff like lard.. but I prefer oils because I consider them more manageable, for recipes but a mix of the two would probably suit most people. Say perhaps $50-100 worth should cover you for 6 months

For carbs, rice is probably the cheapest, and I suggest a mix of flour and rice for each grown adult 1 8kg bag should last 2 weeks so 2 bags per month or 12 bags for half a year should run less than $150 probably closer to $100

a couple dollars worth of salt should cover you for your salt needs.

and 1 or 2 multivitamins a day so two to four 120 cap centrum type multivitamins this should run maybe $30

a water purifier, perhaps some jugs of water filled should be a "baseline"

so perhaps $600 should be able to get you the baseline of supplies for 6 months.

I also recommend a big bag of sugar. which an 8kg bag should be under $10

most people in an urban setting should be able to get nutritious greens, vitamin c etc.. from nature most plants you see are edible


An added benefit to the protein powder method is that it gets you use to drinking say ateast 1 litres of water a day. Also depending on flavours it can be a morale booster. I buy vanilla usually though, because it is easier to cook with, but there is chocolate, peanut butter, fudge, strawberry you name it flavours.
 
Thank you for the information William. The whey is something I have to watch out for personally. I have a serious issue with malnutrition due to malabsorbsorbtion of nutrients. It is what it is and I make do so I am always open to new things.
 
A few years ago we moved into my husband's grandmother's house. I spent last summer cleaning out her basement. She still had canned foods from the 1970's........I dumped stuff and loaded 100's of jar's into our kid's baby swimming pool, soaking with hot rain water and bleach before scrubbing. What a nasty job. Surprisingly, a lot of the food, soups and especially grape juice, was still very good looking. I put up a run of soup last summer and the whole thing spoiled-I added noodles which expanded, causing the lids to pop off. Smelled like rotten vomit........The other batches made without noodles kept fine, we eat it often. Great way to use up tomatoes.

Please get yourself the Ball Canning book. Every WalMart sells it. You can also find canning info online. You have to can the right ingredients and for the right length of time for everything and anything you can, especially things such as soups, stews and any kind of meat. Canning "blind" can be deadly. People die every year from home canned foods. And watch those lids. Don't use real old ones. Check the rims on the jars for cracks or chips.
 
Please get yourself the Ball Canning book. Every WalMart sells it. You can also find canning info online. You have to can the right ingredients and for the right length of time for everything and anything you can, especially things such as soups, stews and any kind of meat. Canning "blind" can be deadly. People die every year from home canned foods. And watch those lids. Don't use real old ones. Check the rims on the jars for cracks or chips.
Thanks. Yes, I do use the ball book and love it. Most of the time, it works out fine. It is very important not to stray from recipes. I don't like to keep foods more than five years. My favorite canned food: pickled okra!
 
I have eaten some pickled green beans that were 10 years old that my grandfather picked, right along some that I had canned a year before trying them... They both tasted exactly the same (same recipe) and I didn't get sick at all. I believe everything has different a different shelf life! Of course I have ever only canned two things.... Tobacco and Green Beans, so I am by no means an expert!
 
I have eaten some pickled green beans that were 10 years old that my grandfather picked, right along some that I had canned a year before trying them... They both tasted exactly the same (same recipe) and I didn't get sick at all. I believe everything has different a different shelf life! Of course I have ever only canned two things.... Tobacco and Green Beans, so I am by no means an expert!

Canned tobacco? :wtf: I never grew or canned tobacco, nor did I ever pickle green-beans. I know regular pickles don't taste real good after about 18 months.
 
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