Have you thought about this?

[Gary Johansen]

You are in your secure site and I knock on your door M=me Y=you

M, Let me in
Y, Go away
M, Aw come on lets us in
Y, Go away
M, You have plenty sharing is caring let us in
Y, Go away
M, I'm running out of patience LET US IN
Y, You should have planned ahaed for yourself - go away you aren't getting in here
M, This maybe your last chance let us in
Y, Last chance for what, saving you at the expense of my family - I don't think so
M. One last chance, once I'm convinced you aren't going to share I'm going to plan B
Y, Go away if you had a plan A you wouldn't be here
M, This is my plan A, plan B is using my portable torch to weld your door shut before I leave - going to let us in?

 

[DrHenley]

M: (laughing out loud) Yeah sure! Have a nice day!
BOOM!
M: Or not...

 

[jontte]

and secure it with another BOOM

 

[Proud Prepper]

You are in your secure site and I knock on your door M=me Y=you

M, Let me in
Y, Go away
M, Aw come on lets us in
Y, Go away
M, You have plenty sharing is caring let us in
Y, Go away
M, I'm running out of patience LET US IN
Y, You should have planned ahaed for yourself - go away you aren't getting in here
M, This maybe your last chance let us in
Y, Last chance for what, saving you at the expense of my family - I don't think so
M. One last chance, once I'm convinced you aren't going to share I'm going to plan B
Y, Go away if you had a plan A you wouldn't be here
M, This is my plan A, plan B is using my portable torch to weld your door shut before I leave - going to let us in?

That wont work and I'll not tell you why...

 

[Maverick]

You are in your secure site and I knock on your door M=me Y=you

M, Let me in
Y, Go away
M, Aw come on lets us in
Y, Go away
M, You have plenty sharing is caring let us in
Y, Go away
M, I'm running out of patience LET US IN
Y, You should have planned ahaed for yourself - go away you aren't getting in here
M, This maybe your last chance let us in
Y, Last chance for what, saving you at the expense of my family - I don't think so
M. One last chance, once I'm convinced you aren't going to share I'm going to plan B
Y, Go away if you had a plan A you wouldn't be here
M, This is my plan A, plan B is using my portable torch to weld your door shut before I leave - going to let us in?

...and you're (M) assuming that's the only door , M is also assuming that M wasn't spotted in advance and the conversation actually goes this far once at the door! Hope plan B has survivability as part of the plan? As they say, watch your six

 

[Squirtgunsquirter]

Gary, I'm no expert, but IMO, your tactics are lacking. You announced yourself, didn't take no for answer, then intentionally tried to trap (and I assume starve, that's the desired end result, no?) someone whom moments ago you had been begging help from. That's ******. Maybe the post is supposed to be funny. I don't know.

Also, portable torch? You mean your an oxy/acetylene welder? Rare skill nowadays, if you had started the convo with your skillset, maybe you would have gotten in.

Instead, your probably bleeding out, or dragging a freakin torch cart around while you knock on doors and starve.

Strong work.

 

[Brent S]

I will say one thing here. If you threaten me and mine after shtf or any major emergency, you aren’t likely to ever threaten anyone else ever again.

 

[Squirtgunsquirter]

Brent, right? At that point it would be my public duty to end that raider.

 

[Brent S]

If someone comes asking for assistance, I’m not 100% certain I would help, but maybe. Guess it depends on the scale emergency and my limited supplies. The scale of someone demanding I help them pretty much crosses them off my list though.

 

[Mountain trapper]

In the unlikely event that someone managed to make up to my place, which is highly unlikely, and asked for assistance I would probably listen to them. Provided they posed no threat, and I had something they needed, I would let them work for it. I don't believe in giving anything away without getting something in return. I have two locked gates to get to my place so they would be on foot. It would be a totally different outcome if they were found stumbling around here after dark.....

 

[Squirtgunsquirter]

OP's favorite weapon: Pen/tongue

A lot of time and effort to drop one troll post.

 

[DrHenley]

So many holes in plan B I could use it to strain spaghetti. My first thought was "back door dummy!"

But on second thought, no way in hell am I going to let this bozo do anything to my door. So I figured I'd introduce him to my friend, Mr. Claymore.

 

[jontte]

yup,as many,many above here said; don't threat,in this case you loose your life and I get a nice torch with stuff included you get a hole..dark,perhaps deep enough so not any wild critters dig you up for lunch..

 

[Brent S]

So many holes in plan B I could use it to strain spaghetti. My first thought was "back door dummy!"

But on second thought, no way in hell am I going to let this bozo do anything to my door. So I figured I'd introduce him to my friend, Mr. Claymore.

Boiling oil! What else did they throw on invaders trying to scale the walls in the Middle Ages.....

 

[DrHenley]

Boiling oil! What else did they throw on invaders trying to scale the walls in the Middle Ages.....

Burning pitch, quicklime, Greek Fire. I guess roofing tar might make a suitable pitch.

 

[user 6493]

interesting,,,and at this point I slip out the side tunnel walk in behind you and put your butt in the grave,,,,,,

anyone who has a secure location has more than one way in and out


THINK ABOUT THAT

 

[lonewolf]

nobody comes here post SHTF without it being agreed in advance.
they wont get as far as my front door, I have a clear field of fire all around and I can see anything moving long before it gets anywhere near.

 

[firewallsrus]

Squirtgun Squirter's avatar has a clever answer. A quick squirt of kerosene through the peep hole followed up by a kitchen match and mister torch becomes, um, well, mister torch.

On the ship, we called them "screaming alphas"

 

[jimLE]

I would of told you.leave alive.if you leave right now.or die right where you are.the first and only time i told ya to leave.when it comes to conversations like that one.

 

[Tonto_]

Here's how the scenario would play out if it were me:

-let me in
-okay, come in. get warm, we have a fire going. we also have food and water. I hope you guys are okay.
-thank you. most people are too cruel and selfish to help their fellow man.
-no problem. One minute, let me change into something more comfortable. (walks into other room)
-okay guys, when he comes back in, we jump him, kill him, and take his crops.
-Hey boys, how about a lap dance (i re enter wearing a bikini and wig)
-now THIS is what I'm talking about.

 

[Maverick]

Here's how the scenario would play out if it were me:

-let me in
-okay, come in. get warm, we have a fire going. we also have food and water. I hope you guys are okay.
-thank you. most people are too cruel and selfish to help their fellow man.
-no problem. One minute, let me change into something more comfortable. (walks into other room)
-okay guys, when he comes back in, we jump him, kill him, and take his crops.
-Hey boys, how about a lap dance (i re enter wearing a bikini and wig)
-now THIS is what I'm talking about.

Flawed, you’re assuming you even get that far much less even make it inside, especially with more than one person. This wouldn’t happen now and certainly wouldn’t happen in a shtf.

 

[lonewolf]

nobody gets inside my front door without an appointment and that's now!

 

[Gazrok]

If I have a metal door, you can bet I have some "greeter" measures for unwanted guests...(like I press a button, and a door behind you falls down, sealing you in...then I press a second button, and all of the oxygen is sucked out of the decon chamber.) We'll see how much welding you do within a few minutes (and no oxygen).

And hey, a new welding torch! And meat!

___________________

I have actually thought of all of this, and developed a protocol for dealing with any that come by after SHTF. It's based mostly on addressing them while at the perimeter of the property. Signs will clearly tell anyone that breaching the fences is a break of that protocol and met only with deadly force.

So, if they are inside the fence, they have chosen to be dog food. Otherwise, there's a protocol (I think I detailed most of it in the Tactics forum). It has to do with assessing the threat, ensuring the person is guarded at all times, and secured when sleeping, until there is a level of trust, etc. (that comes with increased permissions, etc.) in exchange for labor, and giving them food, etc.

 

[Tonto_]

Flawed, you’re assuming you even get that far much less even make it inside, especially with more than one person. This wouldn’t happen now and certainly wouldn’t happen in a shtf.

I'm not the one going inside someone else's house in the scenario. I'm the one letting the stranger into my house.

 

[Gazrok]

Well, you can always do the poison/antidote solution.

(after letting them in, sharing food, etc.)

Me: Well, the meal we just shared, and the drinks we just had, were laced with a certain amount of foxglove (that's a poison, my friend). Mine though, had the antidote. If you too would like the antidote, I suggest you come into this little locked room. Once the nausea starts, it'd be better as there's a bucket in there.

(of course, since they threatened me, they won't get the antidote, just more poison...then I have to clean the damn room).

If they didn't threaten me though, their antidote is in the cake.

Or, maybe there never was any poison or antidote? Who are they to know?