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Graynomad

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Hi guys,

I've been living off grid and largely out of the system since 2001 so am well up to speed in some areas (solar, water, living in the bush) but woefully lacking in others (growing food, tactical etc.)

We live in an 1971 ex-army 6x6 truck and have now dropped anchor on our land (25 acres) in central Queensland in Oz. I'm building living quarters from shipping containers and also a workshop for metal work (general fabrication, welding and blacksmithing). When that's all done I hope to address food storage and finally growing of food. And next week I'll get back into multi-day walks and bushcraft and buy some firearms and get up to speed with them :)

So not much to do. Good thing prepping is a journey and not a destination because I doubt I'll ever be 100% prepared.

Rob
 
Wow, man... First off, welcome to DPF, and thanks for joining. How were you able to live largely off the grid without growing foods or hunting? Sounds like you've had quite a journey already, and I'll bet you have a lot of good experiences to share. Thanks again for joining and I look forward to hearing your experiences.
 
Hi guys,

I've been living off grid and largely out of the system since 2001 so am well up to speed in some areas (solar, water, living in the bush) but woefully lacking in others (growing food, tactical etc.)

We live in an 1971 ex-army 6x6 truck and have now dropped anchor on our land (25 acres) in central Queensland in Oz. I'm building living quarters from shipping containers and also a workshop for metal work (general fabrication, welding and blacksmithing). When that's all done I hope to address food storage and finally growing of food. And next week I'll get back into multi-day walks and bushcraft and buy some firearms and get up to speed with them :)

So not much to do. Good thing prepping is a journey and not a destination because I doubt I'll ever be 100% prepared.

Rob
Welcome aboard...as I said, I am sure you will enjoy the forum. Glad you posted your information. Never met someone who made a shipping container home, so I hope you will share it with us, experiences bad and good...I am sure we will learn much from you.
 
How were you able to live largely off the grid without growing foods or hunting?
That's why I said largely :)

We carry food for maybe 3 months and water for two months in the truck. So if we find more water in a creek (admittedly not all that common in the Oz outback) we can in theory stay out of town for about 3 months but of course no fresh fruit and veggies after a week or so. Our preferred mode of travel is to drive for a couple of days and camp for 4-6 weeks. The truck almost never sees a town but we will do a day trip in the car or motorbike for supplies. On average I would say we do this once a month or so. We have almost no mail to collect, what we have is redirected to friends and every 3 months or so I phone them and we go through it, of the little we have most of that is binned and the few remaining items (vehicle registration stickers etc) are sent to us C/o the nearest post office. Here's a pic of the truck

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More info on the truck etc here www.robgray.com

So although we have been "dropped out" for 13+ years we have still been very dependant on the system for food. Unless you are a genuine mountain man I think that's largely unavoidable in a mobile situation although we do have friends living similar to us and they get all of their protein from the land (shooting) or sea (spear fishing), when they return to this side of the country I plan to have them teach me the shooting/butchering part of their routine.

If you can obtain protein then add wheat grinding for flour you would be almost there food wise, but growing fruit and veggies would be very difficult out of a vehicle.

This is one reason we have dropped anchor although after 13 years it's also just nice to have a base to call home I admit, and I love sitting here in the evening with a beer watching the turkeys, bandicoots, possums, wallabies etc eating right in front of me. Also it's been good to get back into building something, the container house is first and that's in progress, then the smithy, and then who knows but with all that metal fab facility I'll think of something I'm sure.

When I say "container house" I am not talking about a flash job with 10 40-footers like you may have seen on the web, after living in about 200 sq feet for years we don't want or need something large. The plan is to have two 20-footers with a covered area between them. They are in place right now and I have started the fitout of one, also the joining roof has been started. There will only be 2 windows and they will be behind steel shutters (the cutouts used to make the windows), all plumbing etc is hidden so there should be no external sign that it is indeed a house. Not bullet proof and not supposed to be a super-defensible FOB, but it will be quite secure and low profile.

BTW re shooting, I see a lot of posts on forums to the effect that guns are banned in Oz, they are not banned and in fact you would be hard pressed to find someone in rural areas who didn't own at least one long gun. They are however harder to get than I gather is the case in most of the US, for example to get a rifle you would need a letter from a land owner that has more than 40 acres (or be the land owner yourself), the letter states that you are allowed to shot on his property for the purposes of vermin eradication. Once you have the firearm you can use it anywhere though (well anywhere that's appropriate), you are not restricted to his property. If you live in the city (yuk) it would be harder although I understand that all you have to do is join a gun club, AFAIK very few people in the city do this. I am not privy to the statistics but I have never (knowingly) met a city person that owns a gun, whereas most country people have them. Side arms are harder to get but it's still doable, in this case I believe you must join a gun club and attend for 6 months etc. I'll know more about this later as I plan to tool up a bit :)

Everything is solar powered although a gennie is needed for welding etc. We have about 13,000 gallons of water storage and will collect from the roof when it's finished. The land is out in the bush at the end of a dirt road and initial chats with the two immediate neighbours indicate that they are of similar mind, those relationships are slowly being cultivated. So WRT security we are not in a bad state, certainly better that most and far enough away from towns to fly under the radar of the initial golden hoards, more serious intruders would be a different matter and that needs to be addressed.

One thing I think may be an advantage here in Oz is the aforementioned firearm laws, most city people do not have firearms so if they come out here they will be at a distinct disadvantage, no matter how desperate they are a 308 beats a baseball bat almost every time. But criminals of course can get what they like (most laws only affect honest people) and they will eventually be an issue as more obvious targets are cleaned out. As I said this sort of thing does need to be addressed and it's not exactly my area of expertise.

Truth is I'm not convinced it will get to that in Oz, at least not from financial collapse, that said a CME would affect us as much as everyone else so as they say in the classics, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Rob
 
G,day Rob from the UK, your lifestyle is amazing, I have read of quite a few guys like you who live in the outback or Northern Territories, with so many things in Oz being in the top twenty of being deadly I admire your courage and lifestyle Its only been a few years since the famous Aussie Wothahelizatt MK1 truck gained its fame that even reached the UK, I'm delighted to see you built a Mk 2.
Respects from the UK
NR
BTW Major Les Hiddins the bush tucker man is my all time Aussie Hero :)
 
Hi NR, yes Mk1 was a beast eh? Mk2 is a bit easier to handle though being about 4 tonnes lighter and 8 feet shorter.

I don't think much about the nasties, it's second nature to kick a log over before picking it up, never enter the water up north (unless you know there are no crocs), etc etc. At least if you stay on dry land there aren't many large animals that are a problem, unlike our US friends who have to watch out for bears and other predators. At least our dry-land nasties don't eat you, that has to be a plus point :)

I love it up north in the Territory and further west in the Kimberley, I've spent a lot of time up there. It's very rugged and remote, I've driven on tracks for a day or longer and not encountered a single person. Best if you don't break down though. When I get my homestead sorted I plan to build a camper on the Landcruiser and head back there. I also think up there would be a good bug out area as the climate is such that you don't need much shelter and there is a lot of food to be gathered.
 
Les Hiddins the bush tucker man is my all time Aussie Hero
Yeah he is great and an example of what I was just talking about, if you learn what he was doing you could live up north with little more than your undies and a pock knife, and the undies would be optional :) You can't do that in cold climates.

I've got his full TV series on DVD, I must watch it again.

Rob
 
Your new project the Land Cruiser camper are you going to document it for the web like the trucks?, A group of preppers I used to know in some place called Narabunda ACT had Land Cruisers, Troopers and Landies and they had all had them re-engine with IIRC Isuzu diesel engines for some reason best known to them??, one of em even had a 6 wheeled Land Rover called a Perenty (spl) it also was re-engine with a Jap diesel reclaimed from a Ute.

Keep inspiring us :)
NR
 
BTW I'm trying to find an article I once read or saw on Discovery that showed these folks growing food in large square containers on the top of their mobile home camper. Perhaps the new truck could be used in a similar fashion?
 
the Land Cruiser camper are you going to document it for the web like the trucks?
Probably, I've made a start.

http://robgray.com/graynomad/gov/index.php

This is the "Opera house" version :), I have a much simpler design on the drawing board as well. Not sure which one I will build and I have so many other projects to do first that I've not thought about it much of late. It's designed as a vehicle that will be comfortable for trips of a few months, but we could live in it full time if necessary.

Narabunda ACT
Know it well, I lived in Canberra (the ACT) for 30 years on and off.

I don't know why you would repower a Cruiser with an Isuzu, I can understand doing that to a Landrover though :)

growing food in large square containers on the top of their mobile home camper
Now that would be interesting.

I'm here too!!
Hi Jay, small world eh?

Keep inspiring us
I'll try, I've spend most of my life with little acknowledgement of what society deems to be normal, that isn't going to change now :)
 
Hi and welcome from Finland,
with that experience you have from your journey feel free to contribute,that's amazing.
been here awhile and learn't alot already,only "problem" is I wanna learn even mooooore
 
Hi Jontte, I hope to both teach and learn here.

learn't alot already,only "problem" is I wanna learn even mooooore
How well I know the feeling, just the other day I was thinking of all the stuff I didn't know and it's a heck of a long list. As a one-man-band this is a real problem, and I think one of the good reasons to be involved with others in a MAG. Trouble is finding appropriate people that are nearby. Not an easy task.
 
howdy from a Texan .... and welcome to the forum and family...there's quiet a few knowledgeable folks here that'll gladly tell ya what you need to know,or at least point ya in the right direction and/or give ya a good idea or 2..and by all means jump right on in with any replies you have on a topic.and start new topics if/when needed.
 
yep,finding the right people is difficult,I seem to have that problem with close ones who thinks I worry to much and some of my neighbours,well I wouldn't trust a pet cocroach to their care,if I had one
 
with so many things in Oz being in the top twenty of being deadly
Yesterday a bloke was eaten by a 4.5m (15 foot) croc, took him clean out of a boat. One of the reasons the only things water is good for is hot showers and home brew IMO.

I worry to much and some of my neighbours
I've been sounding out my neighbours, I think we have similar opinions re prepping, time will tell.
 
Hi guys,

I've been living off grid and largely out of the system since 2001 so am well up to speed in some areas (solar, water, living in the bush) but woefully lacking in others (growing food, tactical etc.)

We live in an 1971 ex-army 6x6 truck and have now dropped anchor on our land (25 acres) in central Queensland in Oz. I'm building living quarters from shipping containers and also a workshop for metal work (general fabrication, welding and blacksmithing). When that's all done I hope to address food storage and finally growing of food. And next week I'll get back into multi-day walks and bushcraft and buy some firearms and get up to speed with them :)

So not much to do. Good thing prepping is a journey and not a destination because I doubt I'll ever be 100% prepared.

Rob
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