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if Shtf & I'm located somewhat rural west of Houston offi10, which direction /where should I go?

  • north central

    Votes: 4 100.0%
  • south towards water

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • west towards Mexico

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

cowgirlofcolor

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Hi y'all, I'm new to Texas. Home is Georgia, lived in Canada, Asia and the Caribbean (looking story /not military). Im looking for other peppers in the West Houston area WITH HORSES.
I'm trying to find other preppers with horses to learn from. I'm a new pepper and I need survival skills for when a horse is part of the equation.
Would love to meet up some local neighbors (with horses of course) to share ideas
 
Not in your area myself, but as a horse owner, I can say that if you find someone, you can likely muck the stalls periodically in exchange for riding privileges. We like the horses to get exercise, and horses that are ridden often follow commands better. My advice, find some local hay/feed stores, and post an ad on their bulletin boards. It's free, and perfectly targets your audience.

As for where to go, if in a rural area, you're likely already in one of the best places. Rural homes have wells, for starters, so nearly infinite water supply. And most are open to the idea of working for one's keep. Additionally, rural folks are used to having to go it alone, and are typically better suited to ride out a SHTF scenario. Of course, they are also armed, so keep that in mind. ;)
 
Hi y'all, I'm new to Texas. Home is Georgia, lived in Canada, Asia and the Caribbean (looking story /not military). Im looking for other peppers in the West Houston area WITH HORSES.
I'm trying to find other preppers with horses to learn from. I'm a new pepper and I need survival skills for when a horse is part of the equation.
Would love to meet up some local neighbors (with horses of course) to share ideas

First Greeting! Let me extend you a welcome.

I agree with both Jim and Gazrok. No one in my urban home area (I take it you must be close to Katy, Cinco Ranch or in that area) would have an interest in what your doing. The mention of you "prepping" will get odd looks from neighbors. Also compromise you, if a real event occurs.

I know because I had five neighbors wanting to know what I was doing with a monolith of a huge solar array that hangs over my home, then they were shocked when I dug a hole, thinking it was a second pool (we already had one of those) and then see a huge trailer pulled up bring more of what my wife claims are toys. Its hard to keep things away from nosy neighbors, but I can assure you, if you can prevent compromising, do so. Of course, in my case, my neighbors are all law enforcement and two are in my "MAG" and their families will be hanging out in our living room when the event really will happen. Granted Jim and Gazrok will think I am paranoid, but time is safety to me and I have several video cameras that give me 360 degree view, except one dead space created by shed and even their I have a surprise.

If your looking for like minded people, possibly put a thread out on this site (in the southwest section that Clyde has created), and maybe in APN and meet them in a community environment. In your first interview, (just like a date, bring a friend or if your married, bring your husband) ask what I call open ended questions, let them talk about themselves. Find out their life, jobs, educations? I always ask their hobbies, if they have ever gotten in trouble with the law, if they are married and have children (not names, just general question, sometimes that does spook some of the preppers), how they see themselves in a situation, etc. If your a writer or news person, you know how to conduct an interview, do so, its' going to give you an idea of who your dealing with.

As for horses, I am urban, but I come from good family stock who owned, raised and use horses in the mountains of New York State. Not an authority in horse back riding, but still remember what my aunt and uncles taught me. My aunt breaded race stock for Saratoga Springs Race Track and my cousin did the Rodeo circuit for several years. I would have recommended Gazrok because of his past threads on his home-business. So I defer all discussions on horses to him, but like him, I would be concerned about hay and feed. Also, I'd concern myself on finding some good routes to your bug out location and cache some tack, tools, brushes, etc. along your way. You could even consider caching some feed provided it is placed in approved BPA free containers.

I know that if your thinking of bugging out on horseback, I'd try and do some research online for old diaries or history books that talk about how the old 8th and 9th Calvary (Buffalo Soldiers) use to feed their horses when chasing the Arapaho, Comanche and other Texas tribes. If I remember right, maybe Jim can help on this one, but I thought I read where their is weed native to Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma that the horses should not eat because it has compounds similar to a narcotic and can cause problems for you. Not sure, but might want to discuss that with your local big animal vet, if you know what I am talking about and know what it looks like, then just disregard this info.

I voted for you to head North-Central, actually, really try to exfil away from Hoston metro and avoid other metro areas, Consider using the 71 through Lagrange, then into Bastrop, You have two good state parks for grazing and water in that area. If you have to ride this would be a good staging area. If you can still make it with the trailer, I'd keep heading north using the State 95 up to Bartlett. then use the FM487 to cross the 35 just above Georgetown. Once you cross the 35, dog leg westward for a while, crossing the 281, that might be a good North route for you for a while and has some good rivers for you to allow the horse to water and allow you to assess your situation. That is if your really trying to get away from the Urban triangle of Houston-Dallas-Austin.

Jim may counter this, but I estimate whatever event does occur, people from all three large cities will move inward like a pack of locust toward known rural areas they are familiar with. Houston people are familiar with this because they make for the triangle when a hurricane hits and it typically overwhelms the rural communities capacity. Any thoughts Jim? My only experience was when we saw the hurricanes in 2005 and they made it all the way to the Red River (had people from Jasper and Beaumont up here).

I am sure Gazrok gets hit hard when hurricanes come visiting Florida? Thoughts Gazrok?

Lastly, like all good military people will tell you, I would practice like you would in combat. I came up with four practical things that you should consider with your horse, especially if you plan to bug out with the horse:

1) Do a combat load (AKA Prepper load) with your horse, can it take the weight of rider and the stuff without dying on you.
2) Do what we call (Field Exercise), take your horse and do a true road march, with you dismounted a few times to get you into shape of walking, while your horse get some rest
2) Teach your horse to handle weapons fire, if its going to spook when you draw your weapon and run off, their goes your ride and your equipment. Doesn't matter what type of rider you are, if it can't handle gun fire, your screwed. My aunt had a gentle Appaloosa, she loved the smell of gun powder and often she and my aunt would bag a deer mounted before my uncle who drove a truck would fill his tags out.
4) Lastly, when your confident, then fire your weapon, provided you feel your horse is not going to be spooked, fire mounted and practice this often. Do you think those horses they use in movies actually have not been trained to handle weapons fire? So these are suggestion, I've got a few others, but possibly, will leave it to others to comment.

I am only speaking for me, but I am sure the above feel the same, don't hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Silent Bob
 
Granted Jim and Gazrok will think I am paranoid, but time is safety to me and I have several video cameras that give me 360 degree view, except one dead space created by shed and even their I have a surprise.

nope,not paranoid at all..matter of fact..i believe thats a wise thing to do..as for the big cities go..here's a lot of something to think about..back when hurricane ike hit the gulf.folks fled the coast line and houston..now here i am.120 miles from houston.but yet it was so congested here in my town.vehicles over heated and/or ran out of gas.ppl got thirsty and hungry.right along with everything else.think of all that when it comes to bugging out.what roads/trails you'll take?is there stuff you can go with so you dont use up your supplies to fast?
 
Granted Jim and Gazrok will think I am paranoid, but time is safety to me and I have several video cameras that give me 360 degree view, except one dead space created by shed and even their I have a surprise.

Nope, not at all. In fact, a video camera package is tops on my current Elfster list. Not even just for security. For example, it allows us to be sure the horses haven't wrecked a fence and gotten into a different pasture, or lets us check all the lights were turned off in the barn, and we'd be able to pull up our cell, and see that we have a customer at the shop, if we're out in the barnyard, for example. I factor it will take about 8 cameras to do what I want to do though, so that kind of sucks. Because of distance, I'll actually need two units to make it work. One for the barn, and one for the home, but a mobile device (phone, tablet, etc.) can look at them both, so see all 8, just four at a time on the screen.
 
Hi y'all, I'm new to Texas. Home is Georgia, lived in Canada, Asia and the Caribbean (looking story /not military). Im looking for other peppers in the West Houston area WITH HORSES.
I'm trying to find other preppers with horses to learn from. I'm a new pepper and I need survival skills for when a horse is part of the equation.
Would love to meet up some local neighbors (with horses of course) to share ideas
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I'm not to far from you. I'm in the Tomball area. NY of Houston driving north up 149 from Tomball puts you on the southern edge of the big thicket. Lots of trails, streams and lakes. I'm currently looking for another place I can keep livestock because I'm considering pack mules. I grew up in katy and know every route imaginable to get away from Houston. I personally would head into the woods but not leave the area. A massive evacuation of Houston is insane been through one once and will wait it out next time.
 
Welcome, cowgirlofcolor! Thanks for joining. I wish I could help you out a little more on the evacuation routes there. I would agree with jimle & Gaz, though.

I'm not sure how new you are to prepping, or to reading people, so forgive me if I sound condescending, but we have recently had to ban some former members for saying they were going to victimize other preppers who were better prepared than they were. This isn't just a Doomsday Prepper Forum issue, either. We have seen video after video on youtube of people saying they were looking for people to victimize, and some have even gone so far as to say they would sexually assault women! Again, I don't mean to imply that you aren't able to judge people's character or that you can't fend for yourself, I just want to help out a fellow prepper.

EDIT: I Would advise strongly against heading to Mexico, though. There have been a lot of hostilities towards Americans as of late and if SHTF, there would be more than a few looking for Americans down on their luck,

Please understand that we don't tolerate that here, but we do know that there are people who surf the interwebs looking for prey. There are plenty out there who would take what they could from you given the chance. If you get to know folks who have the skills you are looking for... With horses of course, then the prepper discussions will come along. Granted, you can always find preppers and then bring up the horse discussions like you have here, too! In my line of work(And in my preferred hobbies) I come across people who are like minded because that's how the cookie crumbles. I'm sure you can feel people out and see what's safe and what's not, but again, we are here to help each other out, so I shared a little more background about the situation than may have been necessary.

Thanks again for joining and I hope you find what you're looking for here. Please feel free to share your ideas & thoughts with us, too!

EDIT: I would advise against heading to Mexico, though. There have been a lot of hostility towards Americans there and if SHTF, there would likely be quite a few people there looking for Americans down on their luck.
 
I am sure Gazrok gets hit hard when hurricanes come visiting Florida? Thoughts Gazrok?

Not so much where I am. We've been lucky (and we're more inland, so not coastal). But we certainly do have a lot to do when a storm threatens.

First, we gas up the trucks, and get some extra gas in gas cans.
Next, we get some extra feed and hay (if needed, depends on time of the month, as we usually try and have a month's supply onhand).
We get some extra pet food, food items, and ice bags from the store.

Then, we gather up any loose items in the yard and stow them away, trim any branches that may threaten to go, etc., and batten down the hatches. (Horses in and stall windows shuttered, barn door closed).

We'll go around and do a final check (stored drinking water, washing water, food, lamp oil, batteries, radios, flashlights, make sure cell phones all fully charged, but also our two-way radios).

We'll also put one truck in the barn alley, and one in the garage, to protect them. We'll also crate up the bunnies and bring them in on the back porch, vs. the bunny house outside. All animals are kept indoors for a storm.
 
First Greeting! Let me extend you a welcome.

I agree with both Jim and Gazrok. No one in my urban home area (I take it you must be close to Katy, Cinco Ranch or in that area) would have an interest in what your doing. The mention of you "prepping" will get odd looks from neighbors. Also compromise you, if a real event occurs.

I know because I had five neighbors wanting to know what I was doing with a monolith of a huge solar array that hangs over my home, then they were shocked when I dug a hole, thinking it was a second pool (we already had one of those) and then see a huge trailer pulled up bring more of what my wife claims are toys. Its hard to keep things away from nosy neighbors, but I can assure you, if you can prevent compromising, do so. Of course, in my case, my neighbors are all law enforcement and two are in my "MAG" and their families will be hanging out in our living room when the event really will happen. Granted Jim and Gazrok will think I am paranoid, but time is safety to me and I have several video cameras that give me 360 degree view, except one dead space created by shed and even their I have a surprise.

If your looking for like minded people, possibly put a thread out on this site (in the southwest section that Clyde has created), and maybe in APN and meet them in a community environment. In your first interview, (just like a date, bring a friend or if your married, bring your husband) ask what I call open ended questions, let them talk about themselves. Find out their life, jobs, educations? I always ask their hobbies, if they have ever gotten in trouble with the law, if they are married and have children (not names, just general question, sometimes that does spook some of the preppers), how they see themselves in a situation, etc. If your a writer or news person, you know how to conduct an interview, do so, its' going to give you an idea of who your dealing with.

As for horses, I am urban, but I come from good family stock who owned, raised and use horses in the mountains of New York State. Not an authority in horse back riding, but still remember what my aunt and uncles taught me. My aunt breaded race stock for Saratoga Springs Race Track and my cousin did the Rodeo circuit for several years. I would have recommended Gazrok because of his past threads on his home-business. So I defer all discussions on horses to him, but like him, I would be concerned about hay and feed. Also, I'd concern myself on finding some good routes to your bug out location and cache some tack, tools, brushes, etc. along your way. You could even consider caching some feed provided it is placed in approved BPA free containers.

I know that if your thinking of bugging out on horseback, I'd try and do some research online for old diaries or history books that talk about how the old 8th and 9th Calvary (Buffalo Soldiers) use to feed their horses when chasing the Arapaho, Comanche and other Texas tribes. If I remember right, maybe Jim can help on this one, but I thought I read where their is weed native to Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma that the horses should not eat because it has compounds similar to a narcotic and can cause problems for you. Not sure, but might want to discuss that with your local big animal vet, if you know what I am talking about and know what it looks like, then just disregard this info.

I voted for you to head North-Central, actually, really try to exfil away from Hoston metro and avoid other metro areas, Consider using the 71 through Lagrange, then into Bastrop, You have two good state parks for grazing and water in that area. If you have to ride this would be a good staging area. If you can still make it with the trailer, I'd keep heading north using the State 95 up to Bartlett. then use the FM487 to cross the 35 just above Georgetown. Once you cross the 35, dog leg westward for a while, crossing the 281, that might be a good North route for you for a while and has some good rivers for you to allow the horse to water and allow you to assess your situation. That is if your really trying to get away from the Urban triangle of Houston-Dallas-Austin.

Jim may counter this, but I estimate whatever event does occur, people from all three large cities will move inward like a pack of locust toward known rural areas they are familiar with. Houston people are familiar with this because they make for the triangle when a hurricane hits and it typically overwhelms the rural communities capacity. Any thoughts Jim? My only experience was when we saw the hurricanes in 2005 and they made it all the way to the Red River (had people from Jasper and Beaumont up here).

I am sure Gazrok gets hit hard when hurricanes come visiting Florida? Thoughts Gazrok?

Lastly, like all good military people will tell you, I would practice like you would in combat. I came up with four practical things that you should consider with your horse, especially if you plan to bug out with the horse:

1) Do a combat load (AKA Prepper load) with your horse, can it take the weight of rider and the stuff without dying on you.
2) Do what we call (Field Exercise), take your horse and do a true road march, with you dismounted a few times to get you into shape of walking, while your horse get some rest
2) Teach your horse to handle weapons fire, if its going to spook when you draw your weapon and run off, their goes your ride and your equipment. Doesn't matter what type of rider you are, if it can't handle gun fire, your screwed. My aunt had a gentle Appaloosa, she loved the smell of gun powder and often she and my aunt would bag a deer mounted before my uncle who drove a truck would fill his tags out.
4) Lastly, when your confident, then fire your weapon, provided you feel your horse is not going to be spooked, fire mounted and practice this often. Do you think those horses they use in movies actually have not been trained to handle weapons fire? So these are suggestion, I've got a few others, but possibly, will leave it to others to comment.

I am only speaking for me, but I am sure the above feel the same, don't hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Silent Bob


Thanks! Best response I read yet! Great info. That's pretty much what I was looking for... In not looking to learn to ride, I ride and have my own horses. I was hoping to start a discussion on exactly the things you mentioned in your post, where to go, tips to think of, etc.

Any more ideas would be welcomed.
I think it would be kinda interesting to meet up with some people and go on bugout ride. Nothing too serious just a test run or two. Thanks again Silent Bob!
CCoC
 
Hi y'all, I'm new to Texas. Home is Georgia, lived in Canada, Asia and the Caribbean (long story /not military). Im looking to learn from other peppers WITH HORSES in the West Houston area.
I'm a new pepper and I need survival skills for when a horse is part of the equation. Just ideas, tips, etc.
Would love to someday meet up some local neighbors (with horses of course) to maybe do a mock bugout with horses. Nothing too serious, just a test-run if sorts.
 
I'm not to far from you. I'm in the Tomball area. NY of Houston driving north up 149 from Tomball puts you on the southern edge of the big thicket. Lots of trails, streams and lakes. I'm currently looking for another place I can keep livestock because I'm considering pack mules. I grew up in katy and know every route imaginable to get away from Houston. I personally would head into the woods but not leave the area. A massive evacuation of Houston is insane been through one once and will wait it out next time.


Thanks, good advice. Any more would be appreciated!
 
Welcome, cowgirlofcolor! Thanks for joining. I wish I could help you out a little more on the evacuation routes there. I would agree with jimle & Gaz, though.

I'm not sure how new you are to prepping, or to reading people, so forgive me if I sound condescending, but we have recently had to ban some former members for saying they were going to victimize other preppers who were better prepared than they were. This isn't just a Doomsday Prepper Forum issue, either. We have seen video after video on youtube of people saying they were looking for people to victimize, and some have even gone so far as to say they would sexually assault women! Again, I don't mean to imply that you aren't able to judge people's character or that you can't fend for yourself, I just want to help out a fellow prepper.

EDIT: I Would advise strongly against heading to Mexico, though. There have been a lot of hostilities towards Americans as of late and if SHTF, there would be more than a few looking for Americans down on their luck,

Please understand that we don't tolerate that here, but we do know that there are people who surf the interwebs looking for prey. There are plenty out there who would take what they could from you given the chance. If you get to know folks who have the skills you are looking for... With horses of course, then the prepper discussions will come along. Granted, you can always find preppers and then bring up the horse discussions like you have here, too! In my line of work(And in my preferred hobbies) I come across people who are like minded because that's how the cookie crumbles. I'm sure you can feel people out and see what's safe and what's not, but again, we are here to help each other out, so I shared a little more background about the situation than may have been necessary.

Thanks again for joining and I hope you find what you're looking for here. Please feel free to share your ideas & thoughts with us, too!

EDIT: I would advise against heading to Mexico, though. There have been a lot of hostility towards Americans there and if SHTF, there would likely be quite a few people there looking for Americans down on their luck.


Thank you for your word of warning. I have no idea stuff like that went on. As I mentioned I'm fairly new, and this will be the first time on a Prepper forum. I guess I have lots more than I thought, that I need to learn. Thank you
 
Thanks! Best response I read yet! Great info. That's pretty much what I was looking for... In not looking to learn to ride, I ride and have my own horses. I was hoping to start a discussion on exactly the things you mentioned in your post, where to go, tips to think of, etc.

Any more ideas would be welcomed.
I think it would be kinda interesting to meet up with some people and go on bugout ride. Nothing too serious just a test run or two. Thanks again Silent Bob!
CCoC

Your welcome, like I said, I am no expert, but I use to have to drive to Houston for meetings, early on you realize that going down or up the 287 to the 45 to Houston gets really boring. I can actually drive the road now in my sleep and it has been about 6 years since I've been back. So since I am one of those transplanted Yankees and with time to kill on the ride back took different roads back to my home. Of course, I don't care much for the 35, especially around the Austin area...too much traffic, but found that some of the back roads taken right could lead me back to the 281.

I had to reread Alabaster message about three times and if I offended you or Alabaster in anyway...I am sorry. I try really hard to just offer my opinion, its a choice thing. As for Mexico, I would never head that way...I advised someone who is a prepper and is Mexican to rethink his Bug-out plan...that involved such a design. So am glad that Alabaster advised that to you. For me, my critical reason for being on this site is to learn from people...I've done a bit of growing from many of the friends who post to you already.

As for the riding, well I am no expert, but after posting to you, I asked my aunt what she thought of my advice regarding the training and she said that those would have been her suggestions also...and she has fired from horseback, so trust her thoughts. As for me riding, well, unless I am desperate, I think a good photo would be just as nice.

Again, if I may have said something unwanted, please accept my humblest apologies to a new members.

Regards
 
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All great advise. I just moved a little further out from Houston. Found a nice little place on 4 acres. I'll Be Looking To Get Myself A coupleasure of donkeys or mules in the near future. I'm interstellar in getting a few people together to share ideas and skills also.
 
Nah, Silent Bob. You didn't offend me in any way at all. I appreciate you helping out here. There's very little here in the way of what she's looking for... At least from what I've seen.

Perhaps you all could put some info in a thread once you get the experience under your belt. I understand you both know how to ride, but if you head out and realize that you should have taken something you didn't, or vise versa. Maybe you have a specific experience on your dry runs that help you understand a weak spot in your kit and you could point these things out to the rest of us.

Experience is perhaps the best teacher in my opinion. We may not be able to get out and ride(Those os us without horses), but if we can at least learn from yall's experience that would be a help for sure.
 
Idea: test rides. Make a weekend trail ride out here to Plantersville before the Renaissance Festival kicks in. I've got room for horses and it can be fun doing it with some friend's
 
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