How quick can a MOOSE Kill you.....?? Very Fast.
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Did you know moose get "RABIES"........??? It is rare.
Did you know bears (mostly Black Bears) are dying from "BIRD FLU"......????
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Really???
YES......
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From Bird Flu??
Did you know that a Grizzly Bear Kills you and eats till they are full, when they walk away, the Black Bear watching steps up and feed on you. Happened to my neighbor in our backyard.
Yes, Black Bears across North America (mostly Alaska and Eastern Canada) are dying from "BIRD FLU". Likely from eating "migratory" birds that died from Bird Flu. Documented that Coyotes and Fox have also died from Bird Flu. Reasonable to assume that wolves and lions, Lynx, Wolverines are also dying from eating dead birds that died from bird flu.
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Moose attacks are not common but they are certainly not rare. A few years back a guy came out of one building at the University of Alaska Anchorage and never made it to the next building.
Bear attacks are so common that almost everyone knows a victim of a bear attack.
Bear attacks are so common that almost everyone knows a victim of a bear attack.
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Bird Flu in Bears
The recent outbreak of bird flu has affected not only birds but also bears in Montana. According to the search results, three grizzly bears were euthanized in Montana after they tested positive for the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) virus. This was the first documented case of bird flu in a grizzly bear in Montana and the first nationwide for this outbreak of HPAI.
How Bears Contract the Virus
Wildlife officials suspect that the bears contracted the virus from consuming infected birds. The virus is naturally occurring in birds, and it’s believed that the bears may have ingested infected birds or their feces, which allowed them to contract the disease.
The recent outbreak of bird flu has affected not only birds but also bears in Montana. According to the search results, three grizzly bears were euthanized in Montana after they tested positive for the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) virus. This was the first documented case of bird flu in a grizzly bear in Montana and the first nationwide for this outbreak of HPAI.
How Bears Contract the Virus
Wildlife officials suspect that the bears contracted the virus from consuming infected birds. The virus is naturally occurring in birds, and it’s believed that the bears may have ingested infected birds or their feces, which allowed them to contract the disease.
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What concerns me is bears are similar to pigs and the threat to BACON.
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Bear, singular.
1 Black Bear, 1 Mountain Lion and 1 Skunk is all I can find, all in Colorado. If you have other confirmed deaths, post them.
3 Grizzlies were euthanized when they tested positive, they didn't die of bird flu.
Bird Flu (from a medical research facility) is an ultra-high probability, next SHTF pandemic.
There are a lot of cases.......https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/black-bear-cub-avian-influenza-2022.htm
I see the reports because I am a retired PH.
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Euthanized, try again.
When I taught school in Alaska, someone had to check outside before recess to make sure there were no moose in sight. If there was a moose around, the kids couldn't go out.
Moose can be quite dangerous.
Moose can be quite dangerous.
Not interested in playing your "GAME". Do your own research.
So, you believe the act of euthanizing "CAUSED" the Bird Flu...........????
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https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/avian-flu-outbreak-in-wildlife/#How Wildlife Get Infected
Wild animals a typically Euthanized because of "Abnormal Behavior" which is non-threatening to a human, but the animal walks like a drunk, or exabits abnormal physical movements. Example: takes three steps and falls down and can't get quickly up. It may moan or cry as if in pain.
Wild animals a typically Euthanized because of "Abnormal Behavior" which is non-threatening to a human, but the animal walks like a drunk, or exabits abnormal physical movements. Example: takes three steps and falls down and can't get quickly up. It may moan or cry as if in pain.
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No, I am trying to find documented cases of bears dying FROM bird flu. As in bird flu is the cause of death, not euthanized because they had bird flu. I'm coming up empty except for one in Colorado.
I want to know how widespread it is. I am not trying to pick a fight. If you have that information, PLEASE share it with me.
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Digging around on the link @Sourdough posted, I found this map
but also here's the link:
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals
but also here's the link:
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/mammals
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Spanish Flu was also caused by an avian influenza now called H1N1.
I better watch how much I drink!
Probably should learn to scream that I have been stomped on by a moose.
When I lived in the far north bush I had a neighbor who had video on the dash cam in his logging truck of a cow moose and wolf coming out of the bush and running about 1/2 a kilometer down the road before the cow made a road pizza of the wolf.. Interesting but grewsome to watch.. Far as I know.. This had nothing to do with chronic wasting, bird flu, or anything else.. Just nature..
The map Patch posted is interesting, but one small detail to keep in mind... Some of the predators listed are usually not scavengers.. However many of them are more likely to scavenge a bird carcass over other usual prey animals.. Occasionally squirrels will eat small birds.. Maybe anything with feathers tastes like chicken ??
The map Patch posted is interesting, but one small detail to keep in mind... Some of the predators listed are usually not scavengers.. However many of them are more likely to scavenge a bird carcass over other usual prey animals.. Occasionally squirrels will eat small birds.. Maybe anything with feathers tastes like chicken ??
Moose are dangerous..had a couple encounters myself.First one happened in canada 4 decades ago i was 18 or 19 and hunting . Dogs got after a cow moose with calf...she wasnt having any of that...she ran dogs right back to the road.
Had another once on mainland alaska in southeast. I was in a sorta muskeg that had a pretty thick growth of head high trees growing and i stopped and looked back on my trail to see if i was being followed...by a coastal brown bear.What do i see but i big brown blob coming just above trees and i could see a bit of a hump with a clump of blondish hair..or lighter colored hair...my heart sank it was coming up my trail..I DIDNT HAVE MY WEAPON THAT DAY. i had gotten tired of dealing with it so opted for a bear bomb...i had a big shot govt official with me that day.We were working in higher elevation and fish were running so thought it ok to work without a rifle since bear were down low feeding on fish...as this blob got clear of scrub i could see it wasnt a brownie...but my eyes got big when i seen it was a bull moose that had just cleaned up its antlers..i told guy if this thing charges it every man for himself and i pointed out largest tree in area i was headed to and to pick himself one as well.
At this point we both were tired and had been pounding bush over 12 hours.Weather had gotten bad and wasnt going to clear so was told at noon we were on our own...so at noon i started walking.I always carried extra aerial photos from the ones i was working with on all sides from me.Co workers made fun of me for it...lol. That moose strolled right up to us and i had pulled a bear bomb out to spray his eyes with if need be.We both stood still by our trees and he looked us over for awhile then swung his head and went on..that moose was trailing us i dont care what anyone says.
Thank god i had memorized the area i was working so i headed for best known point..a salmon stream.Once i hit it i followed it to the ocean.Coastal browns all over creek and beach..tracks everywhere and it was getting dark.A private contractor working in area knew were i was at..thank god i could tell them too.They were working and came to mouth of creek and pulled up.Guy with me said you dont have extra life jackets for us its against govt regulations for us to ride in boat.I jumped in boat and said do as you wish its against my regulations to stay on beach at night with brown bear and no rifle .He got in.They dropped us off at our work boat and we road to camp.It was dark by then...by that time it had been on move since early that morning.
We went to bed without supper,crawled in our bags for 6 hours.Got up to do it again next morning but the guy bailed on my.He radioed in for airplane and flew out of there ..said elkhound had this project under control and was good with me calling shots on it...lol...i think i broke him to be honest.They wouldnt let me work that day because no partner since guy abandoned me..he was suppose to stay a week....lol
Had another once on mainland alaska in southeast. I was in a sorta muskeg that had a pretty thick growth of head high trees growing and i stopped and looked back on my trail to see if i was being followed...by a coastal brown bear.What do i see but i big brown blob coming just above trees and i could see a bit of a hump with a clump of blondish hair..or lighter colored hair...my heart sank it was coming up my trail..I DIDNT HAVE MY WEAPON THAT DAY. i had gotten tired of dealing with it so opted for a bear bomb...i had a big shot govt official with me that day.We were working in higher elevation and fish were running so thought it ok to work without a rifle since bear were down low feeding on fish...as this blob got clear of scrub i could see it wasnt a brownie...but my eyes got big when i seen it was a bull moose that had just cleaned up its antlers..i told guy if this thing charges it every man for himself and i pointed out largest tree in area i was headed to and to pick himself one as well.
At this point we both were tired and had been pounding bush over 12 hours.Weather had gotten bad and wasnt going to clear so was told at noon we were on our own...so at noon i started walking.I always carried extra aerial photos from the ones i was working with on all sides from me.Co workers made fun of me for it...lol. That moose strolled right up to us and i had pulled a bear bomb out to spray his eyes with if need be.We both stood still by our trees and he looked us over for awhile then swung his head and went on..that moose was trailing us i dont care what anyone says.
Thank god i had memorized the area i was working so i headed for best known point..a salmon stream.Once i hit it i followed it to the ocean.Coastal browns all over creek and beach..tracks everywhere and it was getting dark.A private contractor working in area knew were i was at..thank god i could tell them too.They were working and came to mouth of creek and pulled up.Guy with me said you dont have extra life jackets for us its against govt regulations for us to ride in boat.I jumped in boat and said do as you wish its against my regulations to stay on beach at night with brown bear and no rifle .He got in.They dropped us off at our work boat and we road to camp.It was dark by then...by that time it had been on move since early that morning.
We went to bed without supper,crawled in our bags for 6 hours.Got up to do it again next morning but the guy bailed on my.He radioed in for airplane and flew out of there ..said elkhound had this project under control and was good with me calling shots on it...lol...i think i broke him to be honest.They wouldnt let me work that day because no partner since guy abandoned me..he was suppose to stay a week....lol
good riddance.
Any animal who died of bird flu would likely be in the wild and never found or tested. I'd concentrate on zoo and breeder deaths.
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I do realize that there are many many times more deaths in the wild than are documented. But when something gets widespread enough, you start getting documented cases.
Icebergs have a tip that you can see. Doesn't mean you are seeing the whole iceberg, but it tells you the iceberg is there.
Icebergs have a tip that you can see. Doesn't mean you are seeing the whole iceberg, but it tells you the iceberg is there.
Most people that have never seen a full grown Bull moose do not realize they are as big as a box truck. AND they have about 150 to 200 pounds of antlers on their heads
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Speaking of moose, another thing is you don't want to hit one with your car. Unlike a deer, moose have really long legs. When the car hits a moose, it hits the legs, which causes the entire moose torso to ride up over the hood and smash through the windshield killing everyone in the front seat.
Black bear with bird flu..
Iceberg = only 10 % visible..
As much trouble as I had with black bears around the family ranch in the north bush for so long, something like this to affect the species is not good news.. Coupled with the 90%-10% visible thing by the time something like this cycle runs it course it could be 1-2+ human generations.. I hate to see that happen..
Funny newspaper head line a number of years ago from the north... Rabbit kills moose... Next line reads... No, it didn't choke on the rabbit.. Of course the situation was a driver in a VW Rabbit car hit a moose.. The moose died, the car was totaled, but luckily no one was hurt..
Iceberg = only 10 % visible..
As much trouble as I had with black bears around the family ranch in the north bush for so long, something like this to affect the species is not good news.. Coupled with the 90%-10% visible thing by the time something like this cycle runs it course it could be 1-2+ human generations.. I hate to see that happen..
Funny newspaper head line a number of years ago from the north... Rabbit kills moose... Next line reads... No, it didn't choke on the rabbit.. Of course the situation was a driver in a VW Rabbit car hit a moose.. The moose died, the car was totaled, but luckily no one was hurt..
