Is Climate really to blame?

[Silent Bob]

Greetings all,

For the most part, I've just been posting my info and some how do's, since I am new to the site. Since I am a new member, I don't like offending anyone and respect all, so please keep that in mind when you read my thread, I'd be very interested in both pro and con.

I ran across this article and normally I don't get bothered, but climate change has really disturbed me for a while and really drove me to ramp up my preps. Granted, I've been pretty able to control things like Pandemic Flu, virus outbreak, even for the most part planned for a financial melt down by investing in PM. Please don't start thinking I am professing or subscribes to Hollywood's version of apocalyptic doom, but having been to a famine country (Somalia) in the early 90's, watching our community face a major drought that has been with us for about 3 years now and then watching beef prices go up about 50 cents a pound, its a little unsettling for me. Most of you that were around the 1970's remember watching the nightly news (way before 24-7 CNN, MsN, FOX News), and watched the massive gas lines and hysteria that went with it. Now I know we have faced down 2000 together, whatever that crap was about the Aztecs, but when you see the data on green house gasses and the melting of the both polar caps, its pretty hard to refute climate change. Oh and lets not forget the Chinese are starting to live like us, they have a billion or so population and they love their cars like we do...so any thoughts?

I've posted these two posts: One from the Yahoo..hooey crowd and went to check the U.N guys...I know you all love a good conspiracy write-up, but guys and gals, ask yourself, we are all pretty smart people here, aren't you just a bit worried...financial stuff, cost of food, lack of water...starting to add up and quite honestly my cup is pretty full right now.

I'd really like to see my daughter and son live a good life and who knows provided the good lord keeps me on this little scratch of dirt, we call home, I'd like to be able to see a grandkid or too...not that I want to raise one, but just hold one. Is that too much to ask for a guy who came from a very simple background. I wasn't born with a silver spoon and you know that we all pretty much share that background. We were never given much, and I for one given a little common sense, a strong sense of loyalty to my friends, worked hard to get a college degree, put food on the table, marry a good wife and has some great kids. I'd like to just sit back when I get a little older and enjoy it for a spell. So your all smart, tell me what you all think.

http://news.yahoo.com/un-science-report-warming-worsens-security-woes-053717873.html

http://www.ipcc.ch/


So let the comments begin...is my lone cow on a friend's spread, predestined to choke the remains of red clay of North Texas or is their hope that this climate change will be corrected, we get much needed rain and little Daisy...will be able to eat green grass one day. LOL, JimLE, I've not bought that dairy cow, like throwing money at the casino over the river...without rain here.

Oh by the way, this is not meant to offend anyone. Y'all in the East and West that live in big city's, just go check out those beef prices, it has not affected chicken or pork, but really folks, beef is America's staple, no offense to the folks who love their chicken, but my friend's spread normally has over 2000 heads just over the Red Rive in Oklahoma, over the last 2 years, he has had to reduce the number down to about 500, cost of feed, lack of rain in stock tanks, etc...has caused him to lose business, his wife had to take a full-time job to help pay for the farm and the debt and while I know some are going to say, all too bad, just remember if your living in a metro area, its a long drive to do some serious hunting. Additionally, I work with people who have families that own large dairy farms just 20 miles south of our city, they have had to reduce their dairy cow numbers because of the same issue...we are in serious drought here folks, our lakes are sitting less than 25%, the city has a grey water reuse program that is being studied by most Texas and Oklahoma metro areas. For those that don't know what I am talking about that the toilet water, sink water that heads to the treatment facilty, well that my friends is being pumped back into our main feeder lakes. My family reduced our water usage by from 14 to 4 units, and we have a pool, that is our last life line, oh and I've been stocking up water in plastic 200 gallon tanks...so think about the post.

As I posted to Jim earlier, this fall will mark the first time in several years that I am heading to Montana and North Dakota to do some serious hunting, just to offset the beef prices. 11C1P, might be doing some coffee my treat with you, who knows. Sorry Jim, still read those posts on hitting those deer, can't pull the selector on Bambi, but thought you'd think about this one...I'd start thinking of calling the game warden and see if they'd let you keep them and fill the freezer. Seems to me that the warden should at least allow you to cull it, since your going to have to pay the insurance deductible to pay for the damage to the vehicle. Hope no one takes offense to that Jim.

Have a great weekend all.
Silent Bob

 

[Dani]

If there was a deer that was accidently hit on the road in TX, the game warden will let you bring it home. That is how we got one when son # 2 hit one. He gave it to us and we were able to process it ourselves which cut out the middle man since son was not to far from our house. Hope you have luck in North Dakota or in Montana with your hunt. You are right about beef prices going sky high around here with the droughts and other items in other states that have been imported.

 

[Silent Bob]

If there was a deer that was accidently hit on the road in TX, the game warden will let you bring it home. That is how we got one when son # 2 hit one. He gave it to us and we were able to process it ourselves which cut out the middle man since son was not to far from our house. Hope you have luck in North Dakota or in Montana with your hunt. You are right about beef prices going sky high around here with the droughts and other items in other states that have been imported.

I was pretty sure about that, just depends on the Game Warden, you never know. In New York, where I am from, some game wardens allow you to do it, some game wardens give the food to the local food pantry or church group. North Dakota was about the same, just about the same rules and where my brother in law lives, well he knows the game warden, lol, they are actually neighbors, they do black powder, snowmobile the Yellowstone, fish, so I don't think I can remember a time when that was an issue for him. Of course my nephews were raised on hunting. Heading to North Dakota because I can do a bit there, process and vacuum pack it at my old friends house, he will then FEDEX it overnight it overnight after he packs it in dry ice. Then flip over to see if I can bag a few more in Montana...of course, have to pay out of state tags, but better than me trying to pay to borrow someone's land here in Texas. I've got friends in Texas, going to bring up some smoked beef, some good ole Tequilla, and lol, one of them has this thing for Big Red pop, so pretty cheap, but good ole friends one and all. I'd brought it regardless if I were hunting or not. I was sharing the joke with Jim, about how small the deer here are and well they are not corn fed, taste way to sage for me. I've lived here since 2001, when the military sent me here, haven't even hunted except for taking down some wild hogs in my friends backyard just outside the city limits. He's had a problem with hogs for about 2 years now and his eye sight isn't as good as it once was, so take my son, myself and a few of the neighbors who have never hunted and allow them to use my odd assortment of military and hunting rifles. Me playing the range supervisor. Son is pretty good with the M-4 and just for fun, we kick out the 50 cal, just to run some rounds through it. We just leave it for the coyotes since I don't eat wild hog unless I am really desperate. Not desperate yet even if beef prices are on the rise.

Fortunately, I can get my beef on the base, still it's getting pretty pricey.

Hope you have a great week.

 

[Gazrok]

Climate has been through some weird changes since long before we were here....remember seeing animals flash frozen and found? Still, I'm sure we're doing more harm than good, but we can't take all the blame....

 

[Dani]

Silent Bob, I have heard stories around here where deer meat has been donated to the homeless shelter by Hunters for the Homeless, but they had to throw it out, we are talking about 8000 lbs! Not because it was bad or processed wrong, but because the Health department got a complaint that deer meat was being served and the hunters had taken it to a 'slaughterhouse' to get processed. Deer meat was not approved to be processed commercially there. I guess deer meat is good enough for my family and a lot of other families around here, but not the homeless? That made no sense to me really. And to make it worst, they threw it all in a dumpster and poured bleach on it, so nothing could be rescued for use. And it wasn't just one place. . . it happened all over Louisiana.

 

[Silent Bob]

Silent Bob, I have heard stories around here where deer meat has been donated to the homeless shelter by Hunters for the Homeless, but they had to throw it out, we are talking about 8000 lbs! Not because it was bad or processed wrong, but because the Health department got a complaint that deer meat was being served and the hunters had taken it to a 'slaughterhouse' to get processed. Deer meat was not approved to be processed commercially there. I guess deer meat is good enough for my family and a lot of other families around here, but not the homeless? That made no sense to me really. And to make it worst, they threw it all in a dumpster and poured bleach on it, so nothing could be rescued for use. And it wasn't just one place. . . it happened all over Louisiana.

Hey Danil54grl,

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, bad on me. Last week was state testing week in Texas and was a test administrator. I got through answering some posts, but didn't yours, didn't want you to think I was snubbing you. Wow, what a shame, I know the health departments are pretty quick on the whole wild game thing. Thier is a place locally up in North Texas, I think they process deer and hogs for home use, more word of mouth and if your from that small town. I know the local health frowns upon it really here too. Not suprising they dumped it all in Louisianna, when I worked for Red Cross after retirement, they wouldn't take in anything that was not USDA stamped. Same applies to the plants, they could lose their USDA approval.

It sure is a shame to waste food. I guess I learned from my dad's family the ethos of hunting, if your not going to eat it, don't hunt it. My daughter and son don't care for deer meat, son tried it, daughter well she doesn't eat much meat other than chicken and a little cow. Wife is pretty indifferent because her father and brother hunted in North Dakota. Brother in law doesn't hunt much now, most of time tied up in snowmobiles and black powder shooting. Of course, my wife, nor the kids know what starving is all about. I know what its like because I saw it in Somalia and at times because I got tired of MRE's in the field and couldn't secure some local food, would go without it for a bit, not enough to impact me, but I could feel it at times, when I was a bit sluggish. Then I would tap an MRE and be much better.

So, I watched your post on Akita Dogs the other night. Have you breeded them? Guess I am wondering, my father had one when he lived in Japan, I still have the picture, it was loyal, my dad had a mean streak in him, from what mom told me, he would beat it, but still loyal to him. Don't get me wrong about my Dad, he was a good man, but when he was younger, I am sure he had a form of PTSD. He did 30 years, served tours in Korea and Vietnam, so who knows. So my ask on the Akita was purely personal.

Smile about the profile pictures, well at least you have fresh milk. The diary farmers in Windthorst are selling thier cows off because of the drought. Same for the cattle ranchers. A real shame, I learned a little farming when I was younger on a dairy farm, never worked harder in my life, but taught me some valuable lessons. The lamen's are compaining why beef prices and milk prices are going up, wow, some people are really clueless.

Have a great day and sorry for the late post.

 

[Dani]

Hey Danil54grl,

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, bad on me. Last week was state testing week in Texas and was a test administrator. I got through answering some posts, but didn't yours, didn't want you to think I was snubbing you. Wow, what a shame, I know the health departments are pretty quick on the whole wild game thing. Thier is a place locally up in North Texas, I think they process deer and hogs for home use, more word of mouth and if your from that small town. I know the local health frowns upon it really here too. Not suprising they dumped it all in Louisianna, when I worked for Red Cross after retirement, they wouldn't take in anything that was not USDA stamped. Same applies to the plants, they could lose their USDA approval.

It sure is a shame to waste food. I guess I learned from my dad's family the ethos of hunting, if your not going to eat it, don't hunt it. My daughter and son don't care for deer meat, son tried it, daughter well she doesn't eat much meat other than chicken and a little cow. Wife is pretty indifferent because her father and brother hunted in North Dakota. Brother in law doesn't hunt much now, most of time tied up in snowmobiles and black powder shooting. Of course, my wife, nor the kids know what starving is all about. I know what its like because I saw it in Somalia and at times because I got tired of MRE's in the field and couldn't secure some local food, would go without it for a bit, not enough to impact me, but I could feel it at times, when I was a bit sluggish. Then I would tap an MRE and be much better.

So, I watched your post on Akita Dogs the other night. Have you breeded them? Guess I am wondering, my father had one when he lived in Japan, I still have the picture, it was loyal, my dad had a mean streak in him, from what mom told me, he would beat it, but still loyal to him. Don't get me wrong about my Dad, he was a good man, but when he was younger, I am sure he had a form of PTSD. He did 30 years, served tours in Korea and Vietnam, so who knows. So my ask on the Akita was purely personal.

Smile about the profile pictures, well at least you have fresh milk. The diary farmers in Windthorst are selling thier cows off because of the drought. Same for the cattle ranchers. A real shame, I learned a little farming when I was younger on a dairy farm, never worked harder in my life, but taught me some valuable lessons. The lamen's are compaining why beef prices and milk prices are going up, wow, some people are really clueless.

Have a great day and sorry for the late post.

I can understand about homeless shelters not wanting to use any wild meats or any home grown beef, pig or whatever that is donated if there is not a USDA seal of approval on it, but to actually accept it and then destroy it. . . I think that is just horrible. People can get on me all they want, but that was a life, that was killed for no reason at all and that is what ticks me off so bad. Yes we hunt and we raise our own to slaughter, but the meat we get is actually eaten so I am with you on not wasting meat.

Kay is my Japanese version Akita that I got as a pup. She has always been very loyal to my son and I, and then when I met my husband, she was not very trust worthy of him, but he did eventually gain her trust. Jay is the American version and I got her from a family that just couldn't keep her any longer when she was 5. They have very different personalities with Kay not trusting strangers and Jay trust people until given a reason not to, but they are both very loyal and will come to their families aid, but no, I decided not to breed them and had them both fixed. Kay's more aggressive nature is one that the breed is known for so I would have to say that anyone who gets one, needs to be very familiar with them. They are also great hunters. In Japan, they were breed to hunt bear. I love the breed myself though and in a SHTF situation, I'll take my girls over any breed.

Thank you on the profile pic. The two in the pic are bull calves Jr and Charlie, but they have grown up into healthy bulls now. I do have a Jersey milk cow, Betsey. A friend told me today that he bought a gallon of milk at the dollar store for $4 and $5 in the grocery stores. Dang! I am glad that I can get my own. I sell my goat milk for $8 a gallon and you would be surprised just how many and how much people actually want. . . . some want 5 - 6 gallons at a time and I have a couple that will drive 30 miles to get it. With gas prices going up, it maybe cheaper to buy in the stores.

Oh and BTW, I didn't feel snubbed at all. . . life just gets busy and then some days we just get old and forgetful
Stay Well!