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This morning I finally went to the local LDS center, where they have products for sale to the general public. The prices were surprisingly low. #10 can of carrots, 8.92 vs Augason at 42.99. Hard Red wheat at 5.68, about half of Augason, at 10.99. 9 cans, 3 containers of hot chocolate for $80.
The people were super friendly and helpful.
Shelves were thin. One worker said that January was record setting as far as volume or sales, then February was twice that. Some folks were coming in and spending thousands of dollars, never seen before. He also did say that other centers and the main distribution center are running low or out of products, especially wheat.
Milk is good for 20 years, and the cans, 30. If there’s a center near you, you may want to visit. There are sites in many states. I did overhear that they deliver, but that may be local. Sorry, no link for the list of stores, but if you google the church, the link is there.
BKT, Katie, this would be a quick trip for you, just off the thruway at Manchester.
 
I have spent bit of money and time at the center closest to me. Yes, the prices are better than many other places, but their options are limited.

Center locations: Home Storage Center Locations

A list of the products they carry. These are case prices, I think.

ProductStore Price*Online Price*More Information
Apple Slices$57.48$62.45View Product Page
Black Beans$44.34$49.35View Product Page
Box$25.00N/AN/A
Carrots$53.52$58.50View Product Page
Dry Onions$50.16$55.15View Product Page
Granulated Sugar$52.80$57.80View Product Page
Hard Red Wheat$34.68$39.70View Product Page
Hard White Wheat$35.04$40.05View Product Page
Hot Cocoa Mix$63.84N/AN/A
Macaroni$29.28$34.25View Product Page
Nonfat Dry Milk$59.76$64.80View Product Page
Pancake Mix$49.92N/AN/A
Pinto Beans$44.94$49.95View Product Page
Plastic Lid$137.25N/AN/A
Potato Flakes$43.68$48.65View Product Page
Quick Oats$30.18$35.20View Product Page
Regular Oats$31.50$36.50View Product Page
Spaghetti Bites$28.50$33.50View Product Page
White Beans$49.38$54.40View Product Page
White Flour$32.28$37.25View Product Page
White Rice$45.00$50.00View Product Page
*Prices by case. Prices vary between home storage centers and online orders due to shipping costs.
 
This is a snip of an order form that shows the price per can or pouch.
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This is a snip of an order form that shows the price per can or pouch.
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Thanks for posting the info. True, they don’t have a huge variety, but I’m happy to add some cans to the shelf that may come in handy.
For me, it was well worth the trip just to see the options. And, to ask some general food storage questions.
 
Please call before going since not every LDS food distribution facility has the same items in stock. Glad to hear so many people are still using it. The church does buy large parcels of land to farm and also owns properties they lease to ranchers. The church owns land in Florida they use for cattle and growing orange trees, among other produce.
 
@Weedygarden - thank you! I've been on a mission for more wheat berries today (DH didn't understand the need before). Really been struggling with both price and availability. This just fit the bill!
As Tootsie said, things are scarce there as well. A friend and I were at the closest one a couple months ago. She bought a 25 pound bag of wheat. They used to have several things in 25 pound bags, but it looks like they only have wheat in those bags now. As they were closing out their other 25 pound bags a couple years ago, I was able to get beans that way. I put them in 5 gallon buckets. I do think the cans are really good for protecting anything from bugs and rodents. They have converted a few things to pouches.
 
As Tootsie said, things are scarce there as well.
I've never actually been to one - would love to go, but the closest one is a few hours away. I just placed an online order - shipping was a whopping $3. Can't beat that. Very thankful to the LDS for this service.

I'd have preferred 25lb bags (or even 50lb), to do just what you did, store in buckets. But there's a lot to be said for the cans - and especially for the fact that the long-term processing is already done.
I love done.
 
@Katie Müller, they were out of apple slices online! :(
Emergency Essentials has cinnamon apple slices in stock: Cinnamon Apple Slices
Although I think at that price for 16 servings, I'd be breaking out the dehydrator as an alternative....

nuts.com might actually have them cheaper, just not in the #10 cans. I've got a box my cousin gave me and I need to dehydrate them on Sunday if they're not all eaten by then. Lol.
 
Interesting story this morning from another LDS location. LDS Food Storage Adventures is a very good Facebook site to follow, full of knowledge and helpful info.
Centers are restocked from the Indianapolis main warehouse. They may have more available than other places.
If the photo doesn’t come in clearly, the article says that there were lines awaiting the delivery truck, fights broke out, and food that should normally last a month or more was sold out in hours.
 

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Interesting story this morning from another LDS location. LDS Food Storage Adventures is a very good Facebook site to follow, full of knowledge and helpful info.
Centers are restocked from the Indianapolis main warehouse. They may have more available than other places.
If the photo doesn’t come in clearly, the article says that there were lines awaiting the delivery truck, fights broke out, and food that should normally last a month or more was sold out in hours.
That is an interesting story. LDS have been told for more than a century to stockpile food, especially wheat. I know LDS who have never been interested in doing that and have never stockpiled or stored any extra food. A friend of mine is LDS and has been the person over preparedness for her LDS church for a few years. She has told me that when she gets up to tell people about preparedness, it is like talking to dead people. Zero interest. Maybe those are some of the people who have become hysterical now, realizing that they should have been on it previously and now are really scared. When LDS first started asking their members to store food, in the 1800's, it was based on storing wheat and a few things to needed to make bread. The first "suggestion" was seven years worth. When so many were found to not have that, the requirements dropped and dropped.

When I was at the LDS storage center once, a man was talking about how his church had a truck load of wheat delivered one Saturday. That was 30 years previously. He and his family purchased several large trash cans with lids to store theirs and had made their own bread ever since from that wheat, and they still had some wheat from that purchasee. He decided to be the bread maker for his family and had done so for those 30 years.
Why was the early request for 7 years? Seven years of feast, seven years of famine. We are going into a time that seems to be more like famine coming. All the beautiful homes, cars, and things, will not necessarily feed a family.
 
This morning I finally went to the local LDS center, where they have products for sale to the general public. The prices were surprisingly low. #10 can of carrots, 8.92 vs Augason at 42.99. Hard Red wheat at 5.68, about half of Augason, at 10.99. 9 cans, 3 containers of hot chocolate for $80.
The people were super friendly and helpful.
Shelves were thin. One worker said that January was record setting as far as volume or sales, then February was twice that. Some folks were coming in and spending thousands of dollars, never seen before. He also did say that other centers and the main distribution center are running low or out of products, especially wheat.
Milk is good for 20 years, and the cans, 30. If there’s a center near you, you may want to visit. There are sites in many states. I did overhear that they deliver, but that may be local. Sorry, no link for the list of stores, but if you google the church, the link is there.
BKT, Katie, this would be a quick trip for you, just off the thruway at Manchester.
Thanks, Tootsie. I've been there several times. We go as a group (my core local group of prepper friends) and make multiple assembly lines - opening bags, weighing, o2/can sealing, stamping labels with the date, applying labels, boxing. We decide what we want ahead of time, of course, and we always schedule our visits. It goes pretty quickly with several people working.
 
That is an interesting story. LDS have been told for more than a century to stockpile food, especially wheat. I know LDS who have never been interested in doing that and have never stockpiled or stored any extra food. A friend of mine is LDS and has been the person over preparedness for her LDS church for a few years. She has told me that when she gets up to tell people about preparedness, it is like talking to dead people. Zero interest. Maybe those are some of the people who have become hysterical now, realizing that they should have been on it previously and now are really scared. When LDS first started asking their members to store food, in the 1800's, it was based on storing wheat and a few things to needed to make bread. The first "suggestion" was seven years worth. When so many were found to not have that, the requirements dropped and dropped.

When I was at the LDS storage center once, a man was talking about how his church had a truck load of wheat delivered one Saturday. That was 30 years previously. He and his family purchased several large trash cans with lids to store theirs and had made their own bread ever since from that wheat, and they still had some wheat from that purchasee. He decided to be the bread maker for his family and had done so for those 30 years.
Why was the early request for 7 years? Seven years of feast, seven years of famine. We are going into a time that seems to be more like famine coming. All the beautiful homes, cars, and things, will not necessarily feed a family.
LOL - living in the heart of LDS territory, where it's considered neighborly to help newcomers move in, I have carried countless 5 gallon buckets & pallets of cans full of food into houses. Fun correlation - the houses with the food storage usually have a gun safe (or 2, or 3) while those without don't...
 
@Weedygarden - thank you! I've been on a mission for more wheat berries today (DH didn't understand the need before). Really been struggling with both price and availability. This just fit the bill!
Groveport isn't a horrible drive either. I'll have to take a drive to West Union area this summer and see what they have, there used to be nice Bulk store on Wheat Ridge, but I didn't pay close attention to what they had.
 
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LOL - living in the heart of LDS territory, where it's considered neighborly to help newcomers move in, I have carried countless 5 gallon buckets & pallets of cans full of food into houses. Fun correlation - the houses with the food storage usually have a gun safe (or 2, or 3) while those without don't...
I believe that since COVID hit, many people have gotten more serious about preparedness of all sorts, including the LDS who were lax previously. I have. I am always reading, thinking about different ways to prepare and working on acquiring to better survive.

When COVID hit, I knew there would be stay at home orders, but who knew what would really happen. I had talked to my daughter, telling her about what was happening in China, and that we would need to be prepared to stay home and that I would shop for her because I knew she would have been overwhelmed by it all. On the last day of February, 2020, daughter and I went to a Costco to do a big shopping trip. The next morning this same Costco was wiped out by hysterical people in a long line when the store opened.

Another place where I've bought grains in bulk was hit hard. They have changed up some of their procedures.

We may never be prepared enough, but we have to do as much as we can, imho. I did some for Y2K, but in 2008, I got even more serious. I don't understand those who have empty pantries and refrigerators.
 
We have always had a mix of food storage. We like the convenience of the cans from the LDS warehouse, we make our purchases online and have things delivered here. In the last month we were able to get in a couple cases of things like flour and sugar to replenish what we had used.

We used to go to LDS Church sponsored preparedness fairs, we taught simple things like using wild game and beans in food storage, about emergency awareness for short term (less than 2 weeks) emergencies. The wife taught several classes on cooking with dried beans, they were well attended, but we found that people never seem to have the will power to DO what they are taught. I finally decided that I could spend my time getting ready instead of trying to help people who are unwilling to help themselves. As for me and mine we are preparing today for the events that will surely come....

The LDS Church used to encourage families to have a year's supply of food, but a while back they changed their messaging to "Provident Living" and put less stress on having a year's supply. I think it is an easier pill to swallow for most new members, but I don't think it is doing them any favors.

I always follow the USDA world crop reports and there is one that is going to be released in early April. I think that when people can no longer deny that things are going to be tight, we will begin to see people becoming "aggressive" in their food collection activities.
 
We have always had a mix of food storage. We like the convenience of the cans from the LDS warehouse, we make our purchases online and have things delivered here. In the last month we were able to get in a couple cases of things like flour and sugar to replenish what we had used.

We used to go to LDS Church sponsored preparedness fairs, we taught simple things like using wild game and beans in food storage, about emergency awareness for short term (less than 2 weeks) emergencies. The wife taught several classes on cooking with dried beans, they were well attended, but we found that people never seem to have the will power to DO what they are taught. I finally decided that I could spend my time getting ready instead of trying to help people who are unwilling to help themselves. As for me and mine we are preparing today for the events that will surely come....

The LDS Church used to encourage families to have a year's supply of food, but a while back they changed their messaging to "Provident Living" and put less stress on having a year's supply. I think it is an easier pill to swallow for most new members, but I don't think it is doing them any favors.

I always follow the USDA world crop reports and there is one that is going to be released in early April. I think that when people can no longer deny that things are going to be tight, we will begin to see people becoming "aggressive" in their food collection activities.
Urban do you have a link the the crop report? I've never even thought about following that
 
@Weedygarden - thank you! I've been on a mission for more wheat berries today (DH didn't understand the need before). Really been struggling with both price and availability. This just fit the bill!
How long do wheat berries last if kept at 60° or below in a sealed container but no oxygen removers or desiccants added? If you know?
 
How long do wheat berries last if kept at 60° or below in a sealed container but no oxygen removers or desiccants added? If you know?
I don't know what the limit is, but we have some that have been kept like that for over a decade and it still makes good flour.... As long as it is kept dry and free of bugs it can last a while...
 
How long do wheat berries last if kept at 60° or below in a sealed container but no oxygen removers or desiccants added? If you know?
The wheat found in vessels in caves in the Middle East lasted for 1000's of years. No oxygen absorbers or desiccant there! The important thing, I think, is to keep it dry, preferably tightly covered, and out of sun light, as is recommended for all foods in storage.
 
I don't know what the limit is, but we have some that have been kept like that for over a decade and it still makes good flour.... As long as it is kept dry and free of bugs it can last a while...
I've got some Cigars like that too, they are FABULOUS!!.
 
How long do wheat berries last if kept at 60° or below in a sealed container but no oxygen removers or desiccants added? If you know?
I’ve got the least expertise here, so you are now forwarned. 😉 But based strictly on what I’ve read/watched, keeping the temp consistent is excellent. If the environment isn’t damp, that should be great. My only concern would be weevils - but Amish just said she’s never had bug problems, and she would know!
 
I’ve got the least expertise here, so you are now forwarned. 😉 But based strictly on what I’ve read/watched, keeping the temp consistent is excellent. If the environment isn’t damp, that should be great. My only concern would be weevils - but Amish just said she’s never had bug problems, and she would know!
And if you get bugs in any of your grain storage, your chickens will just consider it a bonus treat :) I know a couple of people who get a large part of their chicken feed by going to estate sales and offering to haul off the old "expired" food storage for free...
 

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