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GeorgiaPeachie

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With some relief I saw this morning that the President has ordered the meat plants back open. As there would be a huge problem with 80% reduced amount of meat available, this is the wisest option. Also saw the unions talking about making sure their workers are safe. Guess they didn’t take the time to look prior to saying anything? At any rate, here is what the CDC put out for them to protect their workers.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...eat-poultry-processing-workers-employers.html
 
It kind of makes sense. Boneless requires more hands-on processing

https://fortune.com/2020/04/28/us-meat-shortage-coronavirus-boneless-chicken/
Boneless chicken is first to go scarce as coronavirus hits U.S. meat supply
Goodbye, boneless chicken.

Food retailers across North America are swapping boneless chicken legs for less popular thighs and drumsticks as a wave of shutdowns at meatpacking plants has reduced supplies of sought-after cuts.

Covid-19 infections among workers at some of the largest meat processing plants in the U.S. and Canada have reduced slaughter capacity, and in some cases the types of cuts available. Outbreaks have shut down almost a third of U.S. pork capacity and the growing wave of disruptions has spurred plans by President Donald Trump to order meat-processing plants to remain open. In Canada, Cargill Inc. has idled its beef plant in High River, Alberta, which accounts for about 40% of Canada’s processing capacity while JBS SA’s beef plant in Brooks, Alberta, is running at about half capacity.
 
This was a good move by trump. We do not want more farmers to go under and especially right now we don’t want any food going to waste. I wish he would expand federal help for more agricultural goods too.

Me too Brent! When I’ve read about farmers having to let their stuff rot in the field or kill their animals instead of selling them, I’ve frankly been very upset. I realize he has to be careful to not come off as a dictator or authoritarian, but the farmers and their products MUST be protected at all costs...in my humble opinion.
 
Me too Brent! When I’ve read about farmers having to let their stuff rot in the field or kill their animals instead of selling them, I’ve frankly been very upset. I realize he has to be careful to not come off as a dictator or authoritarian, but the farmers and their products MUST be protected at all costs...in my humble opinion.
I don’t think fedralizing anything long term is a good idea but during this event it’s a really good idea. There are too many hungry people right now to let food go to waste and if farmers go under then there will be hungry people for a long time to come.
 
With something as critical as our food supply chain they never should have been shut down in the first place.
Tens of thousands of hogs had to be killed and buried because there was no place to take them. Hog, cattle and chicken producers can not afford to keep their stock and feed them until the slaughter plants open back up. So much waste its unbelievable.
I am glad that our government masters have decided to allow the plants to open back up.
 
I just hope this doesn't come back to bite us on the ass in the form of meat that has been contaminated with corona Virus,,,,personally I will have to limit what I buy until this passes,,,,

at nearly 64 I don't need to become a statistic during this mess
I didn't think the virrus could live that long. If it can then I'd really be worry about all the crap that China is still shipping over here. Fortunately the nearest Wal-Mart is over 100 miles from here.
 
I didn't think the virrus could live that long. If it can then I'd really be worry about all the crap that China is still shipping over here. Fortunately the nearest Wal-Mart is over 100 miles from here.

right now I won't buy from China,New York or California most anywhere the case numbers are high,,,it is just not worth the risk,,,,I don't even like opening my mail right now,,,,,,,,the last item that I order UPS sat on my porch and it stayed there for a week before I brought it inside the house and opened it
 
right now I won't buy from China,New York or California most anywhere the case numbers are high,,,it is just not worth the risk,,,,I don't even like opening my mail right now,,,,,,,,the last item that I order UPS sat on my porch and it stayed there for a week before I brought it inside the house and opened it
Not for the same reason, but I have packages stacked all over the front porch that have been there for 2 months. The wife may not be home but that doesn't stop here from shopping. Most of what she buys doesn't come from China.
 
Are the meat packing companies released from all potential liability if their workers get sick/die (as long as they are following CDC recommendations)? I know it's covered under worker's compensation if an employee contracts COVID-19 on the job so the workers will be taken care of, but if the company can be sued it will cause problems down the road.

We need food supply obviously and meat packing plants are certainly essential to that and shutting them down would be catastrophic. We do need to think through and determine a lot of issue regarding how they will operate during this time. The CDC recommendations seem like a good start, but if workers continue to get sick and die, then it will become very difficult to find people to work.
 
I just hope this doesn't come back to bite us on the ass in the form of meat that has been contaminated with corona Virus,,,,personally I will have to limit what I buy until this passes,,,,

at nearly 64 I don't need to become a statistic during this mess
Any groceries that I purchase go directly into the freezer. I'm hoping the corona virus can'r survive in that condition. It makes me feel better anyways.
 
Electron micrograph of the coronavirus that caused SARS.
The novel coronavirus, now officially known as COVID-19, has been making headlines since it first came to light, late in 2019. Spreading from China to 23 other countries, COVID-19 has now infected 45,171 people.

Because this version of the coronavirus is new to science, researchers are scrambling to understand how to treat infections, and how to ensure that the virus does not spread further.

Because there are no specific treatments for COVID-19, many experts are focusing on prevention.

Scientists from the Greifswald University Hospital and Ruhr-Universität Bochum, both in Germany, recently compiled information from 22 studies on coronaviruses. Their work helps us understand how long coronaviruses survive on surfaces, and how people may be able to destroy them.

The authors initially compiled the information for inclusion in an upcoming textbook; but, author Eike Steinmann explains that “under the circumstances, the best approach was to publish these verified scientific facts in advance, in order to make all information available at a glance.”

Their work, which appears in The Journal of Hospital Infection, focuses on the coronaviruses responsible for two of the most recent outbreaks: severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS).

Their paper also draws information from studies that investigated veterinary coronaviruses, such as transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGEV), mouse hepatitis, and canine coronavirus.

How long do coronaviruses persist?
The first section of the new paper focuses on how long coronaviruses can survive on inanimate surfaces, such as tables and door handles. The authors show that, depending on the material and the conditions, human coronaviruses can remain infectious from 2 hours to 9 days.

At temperatures of around 4°C or 39.2oF, certain versions of the coronavirus could remain viable for up to 28 days. At temperatures of 30–40°C (86–104°F), coronaviruses tended to persist for a shorter time.

At room temperature, a coronavirus responsible for the common cold (HCoV-229E) persisted significantly longer in 50% humidity than 30% humidity. Overall, the authors conclude:

“Human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces at room temperature for up to 9 days. At a temperature of 30°C [86°F] or more, the duration of persistence is shorter. Veterinary coronaviruses have been shown to persist even longer for 28 d[ays].”
 
food,so essential to all of us, domestic production so important to us ,this crap proves that,we all must have domestic production.
was thinking along the line 3 meals from anarchy or how it goes...a hungry mob, that's a dangerous thing..

Most of us have gotten too used to someone else producing our food. Me included. While I was raised gardening and farming, I’ve forgot a lot through the years of not doing it. It was just a few years ago I started growing food again. There is a definite learning curve! If we lost our food supply chain most people would without a doubt starve.

Meat supply would be the hardest for most of us to replace. Myself, I don’t have any beef cattle or milk cows. Not even a couple of goats...which I would love to have.
 
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GP,you already on the right track,deep down,in the dark corners of your brain is the info you need, you just need to dig a little deeper and it will be there fot you to use.


Thanks Jontte! I certainly hope so. My garden and greenhouse did pretty well last year and I’ve got a great start this year. It is just the thought of having to produce every bite of food that puts me on edge a bit. Thankfully, I do have enough food for a few years stored away...and I’ve been canning a lot these past couple of years.
 

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