Rebels shoot missile at Saudi Capital....Missile intercepted by Saudi Air Defense....
Missile shot at Saudi Capital
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I saw that,,,,,I wonder what will come of it
Could be the start of bigger things................
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and they may not do a darn thing,,,,,,,time will tell
It will probably be U.S. resources that do the bidding on behalf of the Saudi's....
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I would let them hanging,,,let them take care of there self
We have been protecting them for many years.....Iran is behind it, but Obama said Iran was not looking for any trouble....
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They can afford to take care of their own problems. I just hope the US stays out of it.
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We've got to stop being the world's go to....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/04/middleeast/saudi-arabia-ballistic-missile/index.html
This has happen before, why it's all over the news as if this is all new? The only thing that escalates is Saudi expands it's attack on Yemen for a short time and Iran proxies will claim civilians were targeted blah blah blah.
I'm waiting for the Kingdom to attack Iran, now that would be something to watch, I'm pretty sure Iran will attempt to attack Israel.. I'll take a vacation from my chores to watch this but in reality not much is really going to happen, it will be tit for tat for a while. *sigh
This has happen before, why it's all over the news as if this is all new? The only thing that escalates is Saudi expands it's attack on Yemen for a short time and Iran proxies will claim civilians were targeted blah blah blah.
I'm waiting for the Kingdom to attack Iran, now that would be something to watch, I'm pretty sure Iran will attempt to attack Israel.. I'll take a vacation from my chores to watch this but in reality not much is really going to happen, it will be tit for tat for a while. *sigh
Isis type group from Libya. Been going on for years .
If the Saudis are capable of intercepting missiles I can only imagine the technology we have unreavealed from public eye.
Most of the Saudis' stuff is all from us. Their rulers and our government have been snugly in bed with each other for decades. They are one of our biggest arms customers. (I'm more surprised they finally knew how to USE what they bought).
Honestly, I actually physically saw two Saudi F-15s crash into each other, when I lived there as a kid (way back in the 80s). (Military, then Defense Contractor brat).... Saudi bought a lot of our used fighters back then (and support planes) (vs. buying ordered planes now). In essence, a lot of our fathers were over there to teach them how to maintain these used planes, and keep them operational.
Honestly, I actually physically saw two Saudi F-15s crash into each other, when I lived there as a kid (way back in the 80s). (Military, then Defense Contractor brat).... Saudi bought a lot of our used fighters back then (and support planes) (vs. buying ordered planes now). In essence, a lot of our fathers were over there to teach them how to maintain these used planes, and keep them operational.
More like Iran knows it can't afford to look for any trouble... Israel is just itching for an excuse to turn Iran into a live bombing test range. The West wouldn't even have to lift a finger.
And why should Iran bother? When they can just capture 8 soldiers and then reap BILLIONS in ransom money? (funny how Obama claims we owed them the money anyway, yet the plane with the hostages couldn't take off until the plane with the money (all in different currencies to skirt the sanctions) landed....hmm?)
Whenever nuclear war comes up, people always think we have to shoot them down from the US. When really, our defenses are all over the globe, in hundreds of bases worldwide, and mobile defenses such as ships, planes, subs, satellites, etc. While nothing is fullproof, it is a multi-layered defense system.
Maybe I should get the popcorn read...
"Blaming Iran, Saudi says Huthi strike may be 'act of war'"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/blaming-iran-saudi-says-huthi-strike-may-act-145627393.html
Maverick,
I just read the same. I think it can only be good for the US. Consider the scenarios.
First, this is Sunni vs Shiite muslims. So if lots of muslims kill lots of other muslims, do I care? Saudi is blaming Iran for starting this. Good. Probably true. As Mav said, get some popcorn & them them sort it out.
Maybe the US can make some money selling tons of weapons to saudi's. Russia can make a bunch of money selling weapons to Iran. Really, who loses here? Other than muslims, and I'm ok with that.
I just read the same. I think it can only be good for the US. Consider the scenarios.
First, this is Sunni vs Shiite muslims. So if lots of muslims kill lots of other muslims, do I care? Saudi is blaming Iran for starting this. Good. Probably true. As Mav said, get some popcorn & them them sort it out.
Maybe the US can make some money selling tons of weapons to saudi's. Russia can make a bunch of money selling weapons to Iran. Really, who loses here? Other than muslims, and I'm ok with that.
Iran has a military budget of about 12 billion. Saudi, about 65 billion. This is a pretty simple math problem.... LOL.
Iran does have a lot more PEOPLE in the military, but pickups full of people (or in a crappy tank) vs a modern tank...my money is on the crew of 4 in the tank.
On paper, Iran has more planes, tanks, etc., but this is a quality over quantity game. Also, Iran has a conscript military. Saudi has a professional one (people go in as a career, like the US).
I can definitely see a conflict resulting in Saudi buying more fighters and tanks from the US. Maybe even some more naval (as they kind of depend on us for that).
Iran does have a lot more PEOPLE in the military, but pickups full of people (or in a crappy tank) vs a modern tank...my money is on the crew of 4 in the tank.
On paper, Iran has more planes, tanks, etc., but this is a quality over quantity game. Also, Iran has a conscript military. Saudi has a professional one (people go in as a career, like the US).
I can definitely see a conflict resulting in Saudi buying more fighters and tanks from the US. Maybe even some more naval (as they kind of depend on us for that).
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Saudi purchased Eurofighter Typhoon along with Qatar, now United Arab Emirates and Bahrain backing Saudi further imposing restrictions on iran. Looks like the chess pieces are coming to play, I think their was a reason Israel and Saudi had a somewhat private meeting a few months back (a first since the formation of the kingdom) hmm, what was the meeting about? alliance of some sort? who knows.
Saudi has a fleet of F15s, (around 160, and just ordered over 80 more), in addition to over 70 of the Typhoon fighters mentioned above.
They also have over 80 Apache helicopters and over 400 Abrams tanks (which are far better than any tanks Iran has). Quality over quantity....
With the exception of about 30 F14s, and about 25 Mig 29s, the rest of Iran's fighters are a hodgepodge of older fighters (and even the F14s are from the 70's, just advanced for their time). They'd be shot out of the sky before they even saw the Saudi aircraft that hit 'em.
They also have over 80 Apache helicopters and over 400 Abrams tanks (which are far better than any tanks Iran has). Quality over quantity....
With the exception of about 30 F14s, and about 25 Mig 29s, the rest of Iran's fighters are a hodgepodge of older fighters (and even the F14s are from the 70's, just advanced for their time). They'd be shot out of the sky before they even saw the Saudi aircraft that hit 'em.
Not to mention the in-process modernization of suadi's royal navy with the help of the US and Britian, the US has struck the largest deal it ever made with the kingdom in their navy modernization, in part to counter irans naval forces.
I don't see iran attacking the kingdom by land in a full head on clash, that would be idiocy, it would be naval and air power though for the mean time it's just going to be proxy wars such as yemen.
I don't see iran attacking the kingdom by land in a full head on clash, that would be idiocy, it would be naval and air power though for the mean time it's just going to be proxy wars such as yemen.
Iran has far more naval power than Saudi, but Saudi simply has it's allies in the region, so....
An Iranian air attack on Saudi would be absolute suicide. Most of the Iranian fighters would simply encounter missiles. Those few fighters who didn't (likely those in the Mig 29's), would then encounter trained career F15 pilots, with updated avionics and a smattering of the Typhoon fighters. Gonna have a bad day....
An Iranian air attack on Saudi would be absolute suicide. Most of the Iranian fighters would simply encounter missiles. Those few fighters who didn't (likely those in the Mig 29's), would then encounter trained career F15 pilots, with updated avionics and a smattering of the Typhoon fighters. Gonna have a bad day....
We also have a habit of stationing a pretty sizable number of Stealth fighters and bombers in various (changing) locations in the Middle East. I could certainly see the US lending a discreet hand in this, to say, knock out a few airfields, and other logistical targets, with stealth, immediately prior to a Saudi conventional run at those targets. (thus making it just look like a successful, conventional mission). At least, that's what I would do.
Irans problem using air power against the Saudis is iran would have to contend with US Combined Air Operations Center (CAOC) at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar and it's multitude of assets. Iran only option is launching missiles and possibly drone strikes regardless, I just don't see it coming to that. Irans power comes through supplied proxy fighters not projecting overt military assets such as heavies etc... I think iran knows the Saudis aine't iraq (iraq/iran war) the Saudis will hurt 
Israeli chief of staff
"What do you think Iran wants?
The Iranian plan is to control the Middle East by means of two Shiite crescent, the first from Iran through Iraq to Syria and Lebanon and the second through the Gulf from Bahrain to Yemen to the Red Sea. This is what should be prevented in the region after the remarks and speech of US President Donald Trump, Iran's missile program and positioning in Syria and Iraq, and see this as a message to the region.
In this matter there is complete agreement between us and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which was never one of our enemies or fought or fought, and I think there is a complete consensus between us and them regarding the Iranian axis, I was at the meeting of the chiefs of staff in Washington and when I heard what the Saudi representative found It is exactly identical to what I think about Iran and the need to confront it in the region and the need to stop its expansionist programs.
How do you see the American position on the administration of President Trump?
With President Donald Trump, there is an opportunity for a new international alliance in the region and a major strategic plan to stop the Iranian threat. We are ready to exchange experiences with moderate Arab countries and exchange intelligence to confront Iran.
Have you shared information with Saudi Arabia lately?
We are ready to share information if necessary. There are many common interests between us and them."
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=iw&tl=en&u=http://elaphjournal.com/Web/News/2017/11/1177142.html
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I read a long article today about the recent Saudi ruling family shake up and it's a move to further prepare for trouble with Iran....I can see a clash coming....I believe Israel would gladly jump at taking out the Iran nuclear threat.....Israel IMO would have done it already if not for the Traitor obama, I think Trump will easily be on board to feed Iran a few crap sandwiches.......rather than obama who aided the enemy time after time...
