My wife and I are starting to prep. Have a few questions.

[glenn taylor]

I am so bummed out about the election. I needed to make a bit more money before retiring in a few years. Now I feel like I have to move fast. Is there any good islands to move to that would be safe and not too expensive? 2nd question I don't want to buy a pistol. Would a lever action 22 rifle be enough?
Thanks GT.

 

[Colt 1911]

I am so bummed out about the election. I needed to make a bit more money before retiring in a few years. Now I feel like I have to move fast. Is there any good islands to move to that would be safe and not too expensive? 2nd question I don't want to buy a pistol. Would a lever action 22 rifle be enough?
Thanks GT.

Welcome aboard GT. The lever action is better than nothing. Me personally, i like a semi. I guess it all depends on what your planning on using it for, Hunting ?

 

[medicken]

Kinda hard to conceal carry a lever action. I would look at a pistol and a rifle. If you are set on a lever action the old 30-30 standby is one to look at. The 30cal is good for both protection as well as hunting. In my opinion a 22cal is only good for a few tasks. Hunting small game and plinking or practicing. The ammo is really cheap for the 22 and if you get rifles that are the same brand in 2 different calibers you can use the 22 to practice with and when you pick up the larger rifle it will feel the same. Is there any reason why you dont want a pistol?

 

[glenn taylor]

Kinda hard to conceal carry a lever action. I would look at a pistol and a rifle. If you are set on a lever action the old 30-30 standby is one to look at. The 30cal is good for both protection as well as hunting. In my opinion a 22cal is only good for a few tasks. Hunting small game and plinking or practicing. The ammo is really cheap for the 22 and if you get rifles that are the same brand in 2 different calibers you can use the 22 to practice with and when you pick up the larger rifle it will feel the same. Is there any reason why you dont want a pistol?

My wife scares me. She has fibromyalgia.I love her to death ,but her mood swings are large. Maybe I can get a 9 mil for myself and keep it hid. Could I get a short rifle I could hit someone at 50 feet pretty good. Maybe semi automatic. Sorry I am gun dumb a bit. It would be nice to rapid fire 3 to 6 shots at someone in 10 seconds. What caliber will put a man down with a well aimed shot or two? I hate to have to use them ,but at my rental building 10 minutes from our house are in a bad secion of town. Sometimes if I am outside there will be a guy come up from nowhere and ask me for money. They look scary. If the government blows it we will have armed poeple coming at you. So that why I'd like an automatic I can rattle off 3-8 shots at a heartbeat and scare some off. GT.

 

[medicken]

Well aimed shot from a pistol or rifle? Pistol, I would look at either 40cal or my fav 45acp. My person feeling is the 9 is too small, but that just me. I like big and slow when it comes to pistol ammo. A 9mm will put them down don't get me wrong but I have heard of the hopped up junkie taking 5-10 rounds before stopping. The 45acp will drop just about anyone with 1 shot. Being "gun dumb" is not a bad thing. I would suggest going to a good, reputable gun shop ask these same questions and even test fire a few before buying if that is an option. Try and find a shop that has been in business for along time and has a range where you can try different guns. Handguns are not a one size fits all proposition. There is also a lot of info on the 'net as well, but be careful what you read.
As for rifle, I don't think I would go any smaller the .223. If you want to get 8-10 shots off in a hurry a semi-auto will be the way to go. Look at the AR15 platform or AK47 for rapid fire. Provided that you don't live in an area of the country that limits magazine capacity, like the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, or New York, the AR and AK will hold 30 rounds. 100 round mags are also available for the AK but it does make it a bit heavy. Ammo for the AR is also cheap and plentiful, the AK is also readily available. But the AK will take a larger round, 7.62mm which is equivilent to a .308. Both calibers are VERY popular.

 

[rdnkbear]

I am so bummed out about the election. I needed to make a bit more money before retiring in a few years. Now I feel like I have to move fast. Is there any good islands to move to that would be safe and not too expensive? 2nd question I don't want to buy a pistol. Would a lever action 22 rifle be enough?
Thanks GT.

in my opinion,,, if your gonna use a .22 you'll be able to carry a lot more ammo or pre loaded clips, plus its easier to silence.

 

[glenn taylor]

Dang I had a yearly physical two weeks ago and now looking at heart surgery in a few week unless they drag me in sooner. I know it sound a bit funny,but getting some guns take my mind off this health thing. Thanks! A lot of great advice. I am going to go by a few good gun shops. AR AK .223 is greek so far. Maybe I need a bigger gun to take care of the job. I had no idea people could take a few shots and still possibly shoot me or my family. I thought they would freak out and split. maybe if they didn't have a gun. If they are armed I'd rather get it over. Last question. I am a recording engineer loud pistols indoors kill my ears. Is it a bad idea if I went with a 9mm or 45 I could put a silencer on? Again thanks for the help I am looking forward to finding a range and some hands on! Glenn.

 

[Fordrocks1986]

If your planing to keep it in your car I would go with something not to expensive also 9mm is good enough for the cops/military and they take down junkies all the time just get 147 grain hollow points like the cops use. Why do people spell California with a K? I don't get it what's the point I see this all the time

 

[medicken]

Dang I had a yearly physical two weeks ago and now looking at heart surgery in a few week unless they drag me in sooner. I know it sound a bit funny,but getting some guns take my mind off this health thing. Thanks! A lot of great advice. I am going to go by a few good gun shops. AR AK .223 is greek so far. Maybe I need a bigger gun to take care of the job. I had no idea people could take a few shots and still possibly shoot me or my family. I thought they would freak out and split. maybe if they didn't have a gun. If they are armed I'd rather get it over. Last question. I am a recording engineer loud pistols indoors kill my ears. Is it a bad idea if I went with a 9mm or 45 I could put a silencer on? Again thanks for the help I am looking forward to finding a range and some hands on! Glenn.

sorry to hear of the health issues. Better to get them fixed now than wait, the alternative is not good.
If you are gonna be shooting indoors, wear ear protection. Now, I know in the middle of a gun battle you cant just wave your arms and say hold on I need my ear protection, but for everday practice at the range find a good set of ear plugs or muffs. Depending on your budget ear protection can be had for $1.00 all the way to $5000 for custom fitted, amplified, precision protection

 

[glenn taylor]

Are silencers illegal for pistols in Florida? I think in some states you can get them with a permit. Tomorrow I am going to another gun shop and to a shooting range for the first time. Really looking forward to it. GT.

 

[Bravery]

First of all... Florida is pretty good with its gun laws. And talking about laws ... this is why I think people spell California with a "K" to show that the state is FUBAR (messed up); the spelling is messed up just as the state is messed up. As far as getting a lot of rounds off fast... you want to go with a semi-automatic. The potential problem with a semi-automatic is with the possibility of the weapon jamming. This is why some people prefer a revolver (I have both). If you want stopping power in a "normal" handgun, I think most people will say get a 45 (my next pistol). The handgun I plan on using for self defense is a 9mm loaded with Hydra-shok rounds. From what I read, these rounds are pretty powerful.

Where in Florida are you?

Enjoy the site! There are some good people here!

 

[glenn taylor]

My wife and I are in Gainesville Florida. GT.

 

[David W. Harrison]

I used to live in central florida, and south florida. About 32 years total lived there. Yeah go to a gun shop and find one that will give you some instruction. Dont be afriad to pay for it!! Shoot a lot of rental guns at the shops and find what your confortable with. If you cant handle the .45 then it is not the caliber for you. The more you try the better a decision you can make. please DO NOT buy a gun the first day you shoot. Go shooting several times first. Also look into any shooting clubs in the area. Some of those take in new members and offer training classes and even open gun loaner days. Basically these are days other meebers can go in and use other peoples guns for free, you provide the ammo. And above all...PLEASE BE SAFE!! NEVER point a weapon at ANYTHING you arent willing to kill right then and there!

O and shotguns. Shotguns are your friend at close to medium range. Just the sound of a pump action shotgun being cocked and loaded has been known to make grown men soil themselves.

 

[Bravery]

I used to live in central florida, and south florida. About 32 years total lived there. Yeah go to a gun shop and find one that will give you some instruction. Dont be afriad to pay for it!! Shoot a lot of rental guns at the shops and find what your confortable with. If you cant handle the .45 then it is not the caliber for you. The more you try the better a decision you can make. please DO NOT buy a gun the first day you shoot. Go shooting several times first. Also look into any shooting clubs in the area. Some of those take in new members and offer training classes and even open gun loaner days. Basically these are days other meebers can go in and use other peoples guns for free, you provide the ammo. And above all...PLEASE BE SAFE!! NEVER point a weapon at ANYTHING you arent willing to kill right then and there!

O and shotguns. Shotguns are your friend at close to medium range. Just the sound of a pump action shotgun being cocked and loaded has been known to make grown men soil themselves.

Great advice!

I will say to you that I have run into a lot of %*#@+ ******** at gun shops and at an outdoor range in Jacksonville ... just remember that they are not all ********. Some of the places have nice, helpful people working for them that are knowledgeable. Keep looking for those shops! Handling a gun properly is something that is learned.

Remember, don't fear the gun BUT with that said... you HAVE to respect it! It can take a life.

 

[glenn taylor]

Ok ,I have gone shooting several times now. It's great shooting a 9 mm pistol, Ar Ak, 22 long rifle ammo ( a pistol) Sorry thats whats the guy said. Several 38's and 22 cal. oh yea and a 45. Sorry again if I am gun dumb. My health issues outside this frikin heart operation I hoping to get it done in jan or feb is I was in a car accident about 3 weeks ago and my right hand is still a slight bit swollen a bit. The bigger pistols I shot this week are making my hand swell up worse is this normal? I mean do you get used to it after awhile? Also the longer barrel 22 pistols I am much better at hitting things.
thanks GT.

 

[Bravery]

My advice is to lay off the larger caliber weapons until your hand heals. I would use the .22 and practice your technique. Get some lessons on correct shooting techniques. Don't be ashamed ... people get golf lessons, tennis lessons but as men we (at least I do) feel like I should be Audie Murphy and Alvin York rolled into one. For a swollen ankles I used to tell my soccer players (RICE) Rest it, Ice it (20 minutes on, 20 minutes off), Compress it (wrap it in a ACE bandage or get it properly taped up) and Elevate it (Above the heart ... I would rest my hand on top of my head). I don't know if you can take Advil or any other NSAIDs (ask your doctor). Of course I am not a doctor... just throwing out a few ideas

 

[Onisei]

My advice since you are new to shooting would be to stick to a .22lr. It's a cheap round to shoot and easy to get

 

[glenn taylor]

Thanks for the info. I soaked my hand in ice water for about 20 minutes last night. Much better today. Did the same ice soak 3 weeks ago 1 hour after my wreck. 1st accident in 40 years. i am pretty sure I just got carried away. got off my arse and got some x rays today. GT.

 

[Bravery]

Thanks for the info. I soaked my hand in ice water for about 20 minutes last night. Much better today. Did the same ice soak 3 weeks ago 1 hour after my wreck. 1st accident in 40 years. i am pretty sure I just got carried away. got off my arse and got some x rays today. GT.

Glad to hear... Now once the swelling goes down you want to start using it and stretching it. It will grow stiff if you keep it immobilized too long. Start light and move up from there... If it swells up again, RICE.

 

[Bravery]

So ... was it broken? My son went about 3 weeks with a broken arm (it was a complete break in the Radius). He didn't complain much (he was swimming with it and jumping on the trampling) but after 3 weeks of mentioning it I took him to the vet... I mean doctor and had it x-rayed. Man, did I ever feel HORRIBLE! I ended up splurging and getting him a water proof cast.

 

[David W. Harrison]

OK GT. so I figure your best bet FOR NOW would be to grab a semi auto 22 psitol AND grab a semi auto 22 rifle. Next I would get a shotgun. Walmart has H and R pump shotguns for under 200. IF you feel you wanna upgrade after these then I would get urself an AR or AK in there standard battle calibers. AR's use .223/5.56, and AK's use 7.62X39.

But most of all spend time on the range and invest in some training!!!

 

[Bravery]

Ruger makes a sweet .22 semi-auto rifle that you can add on a 35 round magazine (factory made). The rifle is the Ruger 10/22. As far as shotguns go...my choice is the Mossberg 500 12 gauge. I am new to shotguns though. Shotguns are nice weapons to have in your arsenal (and you won't get too much argument on this).

 

[David W. Harrison]

Yep, the ruger 10/22 is a fine weapon to be sure. Lot of fun stuff you can add to it. They start at about 209$ new. Mossberg 500 is also a fine choice.

 

[Bravery]

I will say this about 12 gauges ... learn how to shoot one. The person I went shooting with to shoot a 12 gauge thought it would be funny to have me shoot it without instruction. Well I really hurt my shoulder... it was not enjoyable one little bit. I was about 12 or 13 at the time. It was years before I shot one again.

 

[glenn taylor]

No I got the word from my doctors nurse today. No fractures or anything wrong on the x rays. if it swells she said just keep putting ice on it. I don't know if I mentioned it ,but I played a gig on bass with a friend of mine. Between that and trying out my other friends guns maybe was a bit much. Can't wait to go back out shooting. It's sounds strange,but it's a life saver for me. The more I keep busy the less I think about having to go in the hospital in late jan or feb.
I would like to start with buying 22 pistol and a suppressor. If I fill out a form or two I think it's legal here in Florida. However a friend of my wife said if the stuff hits the fan buying it would put me on a list. Isn't this a bit paranoid?
thanks GT.

 

[Bravery]

No I got the word from my doctors nurse today. No fractures or anything wrong on the x rays. if it swells she said just keep putting ice on it. I don't know if I mentioned it ,but I played a gig on bass with a friend of mine. Between that and trying out my other friends guns maybe was a bit much. Can't wait to go back out shooting. It's sounds strange,but it's a life saver for me. The more I keep busy the less I think about having to go in the hospital in late jan or feb.
I would like to start with buying 22 pistol and a suppressor. If I fill out a form or two I think it's legal here in Florida. However a friend of my wife said if the stuff hits the fan buying it would put me on a list. Isn't this a bit paranoid?
thanks GT.

What part of Florida are you in? I'm in Northeast Florida.

I like to put ice on it for swelling and heat for healing (when there is NO SWELLING). I would also wrap it ... it will give your hand some support and help remind you that that hand is injured... I know I tend to overdo and re-injure things.

They do make rounds for .22 that don't use gun powder... they don't sound like a gun going off and the rounds travel a lot slower and I'm sure it would have a different trajectory. I have never heard it before but just going on reports.

Get your CWL (Concealed Weapons License) since you are in Florida... it's like around $115 for a license that is good for like 7 years. Our instructor recommended not to ever use your DD-214 if you were in the Military.

What kind of music do you play? I'm pretty good at playing the radio.

 

[glenn taylor]

My wife and I live in Gainesville 40 miles from Ocala. I love Classic rock, RnB, good bands and artists that write good songs. No rap for me. If you you tube" How bout us" by the band champaign .It was a band the singer and I started in 79 then we split up after 8 months. 1 year later Im in California driving to a gig with another band and "How bout Us" came on the radio. I flipped. It made them some $ GT.

 

[PhoenixPrepping]

Jacksonville Fl is where I am. We have some pretty good weapon shops around and some firing ranges as well.

Oh, here is an interesting tidbit. I went in to one of the shops the other day and found an interesting round. I don't remember what it's designation is but it's for a .38. The interesting thing about it is that it's longer than the traditional round. The guy said that it is filled with buckshot, and the round is a hollow point with a ball inserted in it. When you hit someone with it the hollow point tears them up but the ball explodes when it comes in contact with bodily fluids!!!! I looked at him for a second, grinned, and mentioned that after all that the buckshot kind of seemed like a bit over the top.

 

[Bravery]

Jacksonville Fl is where I am. We have some pretty good weapon shops around and some firing ranges as well.

Oh, here is an interesting tidbit. I went in to one of the shops the other day and found an interesting round. I don't remember what it's designation is but it's for a .38. The interesting thing about it is that it's longer than the traditional round. The guy said that it is filled with buckshot, and the round is a hollow point with a ball inserted in it. When you hit someone with it the hollow point tears them up but the ball explodes when it comes in contact with bodily fluids!!!! I looked at him for a second, grinned, and mentioned that after all that the buckshot kind of seemed like a bit over the top.

Hey Phoenix, I'm from Jax too. Glad your on the board here!

That round sounds a bit like the Hydrashok. I'm interested in learning more about them.

 

[PhoenixPrepping]

I think that was the name he gave me. It was at the Shooter's over on Blanding. Well, I guess it is Blanding, it's after you cross over 103rd St heading towards the FSCJ over on Park Street.

Just read that and I'm not sure that makes sense but it is the only way I can think to explain it lol.