hiyer guys good to be here. so this long disorganized rant is part introduction part sharing my plan, part random thoughts and part requesting ideas...... so buckle up and here we go.
So im a brand new prepper, Ive mostly just been hoarding tinned food and water for now for me and my family. my problem is damned hard if not impossible to prepare for, i am of course talking about climate change (if you're a climate science denier then that's your right but ive heard all your arguments before and dont need to hear them again) its difficult to prep for because its an ever worsening relentless situation that changes the environment you are trying to survive in as it advances over the years, the rate of advancement also ever increases with time.
but i did have a thought that maybe when civilization collapses as it inevitably will i will have a preplanned hiding place somewhere for me and my folks with a LOT of food and water already stored there underground or whatever. ok so we hide out there hopefully for a year. when we emerge the population has been greatly reduced from starvation and fighting. and we then survive off of whatever we can make of our own agriculture and bug hunting/foraging. im prepared for the fact that probably all wildlife but small critters will be dead, long wiped out by an island population desperately trying to survive and eating everything. deer, rabbits and the like i wouldnt expect to see on such a small island. They do report though that climate change will be highly favorable to many types of weeds, and many weeds are edible and nutritious so probably many of those will be around.
by the way I am not a fan of bugging in in a complete collapse of civilization scenario. marauders will systematically go door to door taking everything by force and probably enslaving people and then later eating people.
a few things. in Ireland its difficult to get a gun but im working on it, for now i have a bow and arrows. Ireland also isnt a great place for hiding as it isnt a big place (although the population is also small) it doesn't have many mountains, caves, forests, has no catacombs and no elaborate sewer systems like NY or las vegas. in fact a lot of the "wilderness" here is quite bare which is crap for someone trying to hide. im trying to think outside the box as much as possible and i've come up with a few ideas but considering the time frame its not going to be that easy to be 100% ready, civilization is expected to completely collapse around 2040 or sooner based on scientific projections.
one interesting note is that according to one study ireland after a complete societal collapse apparently may be able to recover society to an extent, a simpler one where most people work on farming and we go back to using horse and oxen. the other places were the uk, new zealand, tasmania and iceland. the us and canada also featured on the list but lower down.
Personally i think that study is full of quite a lot of crap, because to me anywhere that is doing less badly will get invaded by a superpower and then probably other superpowers will fight to own that spot. a collapse of society will probably mean the nukes finally get fired and then it is definitely game over for all. Its expected that due to extreme environmental stresses the usa will invade canada, china will invade russia. britain or another european country may well invade ireland. a war between pakistan and india is inevitable also. in these scenarios the nukes are bound to go bang.
So in summary from all i understand of our situation i dont expect me and my family to see old age very sadly. Im not getting into prepping expecting to live a long fulfilling life. But i must say i would like for us to survive that initial collapse, maybe we will squeeze a few more years outta life than most other people with any luck.
any thoughts and i especially wanna hear if you have hiding place ideas. im very interested.
Cheers
Dean
So im a brand new prepper, Ive mostly just been hoarding tinned food and water for now for me and my family. my problem is damned hard if not impossible to prepare for, i am of course talking about climate change (if you're a climate science denier then that's your right but ive heard all your arguments before and dont need to hear them again) its difficult to prep for because its an ever worsening relentless situation that changes the environment you are trying to survive in as it advances over the years, the rate of advancement also ever increases with time.
but i did have a thought that maybe when civilization collapses as it inevitably will i will have a preplanned hiding place somewhere for me and my folks with a LOT of food and water already stored there underground or whatever. ok so we hide out there hopefully for a year. when we emerge the population has been greatly reduced from starvation and fighting. and we then survive off of whatever we can make of our own agriculture and bug hunting/foraging. im prepared for the fact that probably all wildlife but small critters will be dead, long wiped out by an island population desperately trying to survive and eating everything. deer, rabbits and the like i wouldnt expect to see on such a small island. They do report though that climate change will be highly favorable to many types of weeds, and many weeds are edible and nutritious so probably many of those will be around.
by the way I am not a fan of bugging in in a complete collapse of civilization scenario. marauders will systematically go door to door taking everything by force and probably enslaving people and then later eating people.
a few things. in Ireland its difficult to get a gun but im working on it, for now i have a bow and arrows. Ireland also isnt a great place for hiding as it isnt a big place (although the population is also small) it doesn't have many mountains, caves, forests, has no catacombs and no elaborate sewer systems like NY or las vegas. in fact a lot of the "wilderness" here is quite bare which is crap for someone trying to hide. im trying to think outside the box as much as possible and i've come up with a few ideas but considering the time frame its not going to be that easy to be 100% ready, civilization is expected to completely collapse around 2040 or sooner based on scientific projections.
one interesting note is that according to one study ireland after a complete societal collapse apparently may be able to recover society to an extent, a simpler one where most people work on farming and we go back to using horse and oxen. the other places were the uk, new zealand, tasmania and iceland. the us and canada also featured on the list but lower down.
Personally i think that study is full of quite a lot of crap, because to me anywhere that is doing less badly will get invaded by a superpower and then probably other superpowers will fight to own that spot. a collapse of society will probably mean the nukes finally get fired and then it is definitely game over for all. Its expected that due to extreme environmental stresses the usa will invade canada, china will invade russia. britain or another european country may well invade ireland. a war between pakistan and india is inevitable also. in these scenarios the nukes are bound to go bang.
So in summary from all i understand of our situation i dont expect me and my family to see old age very sadly. Im not getting into prepping expecting to live a long fulfilling life. But i must say i would like for us to survive that initial collapse, maybe we will squeeze a few more years outta life than most other people with any luck.
any thoughts and i especially wanna hear if you have hiding place ideas. im very interested.
Cheers
Dean
