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lilmamaKAnna

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what is everyones advice with those of us preppers who have pets? i have a cat an a turtle that are like children to me. an on the topic of pets, those who has dogs , if you go to listia.com they have a dog life jacket up for bid, there is like a day an two hours left to bid on it if anyone is interested.
 
I personally include my pets in preps. But, they're likely going to have to live off scraps after the stores run out. My dogs are going to be our alarms, and our horses can be transport. I have a LOT of animals, so I know it will be next to impossible, but I'll do what I can. At the same time, the humans will come first though.
 
Two of my dogs can say "I love my mama!"...it's too darn funny. One of our birds (Suzie, she's a Malucan Cockatoo), has a pretty good vocabulary. Her go to phrase is, "Hey Baby!", but she's been known to say a lot of other things (and some not so nice things, hehe...) like "Time to feed the $&%*$% bird!" or "Let me out!". The funniest thing she does though, is comedic timing. Her laugh sounds like a human, and when she hears laughing, she'll join in (or just laugh at a funny time).
 
She's also an alarm. Officially, she's literally of a breed that is the loudest bird on the planet (about 5 decibels lower than a 747 plane, at her noisiest), so we'll know if anybody enters the house (or sneaks a late night snack) LOL.
I'm trying to teach her how to say, "Freeze A$$*@&#" :D

(I basically only teach her to say it at night, after her cage has been covered, to associate it with detecting someone while covered, and to squawk after a few seconds) So far, it's hit or miss, she says it about a quarter of the time (but she does usually squawk)
 
She's also an alarm. Officially, she's literally of a breed that is the loudest bird on the planet (about 5 decibels lower than a 747 plane, at her noisiest), so we'll know if anybody enters the house (or sneaks a late night snack) LOL.
I'm trying to teach her how to say, "Freeze A$$*@&#" :D

(I basically only teach her to say it at night, after her cage has been covered, to associate it with detecting someone while covered, and to squawk after a few seconds) So far, it's hit or miss, she says it about a quarter of the time (but she does usually squawk)
Lolol if you actually get that to work you have to post a video of it for us
 
I will, hehe. The sqauwking alarm sound is pretty easy to get her to do, but the other is still very hit and miss. (and she'll clam up if she knows the camera is there, so have to hide it)
 
I understand having pets that are like your kids

Just so ya know you can make your own pet food!
I looked it up again just to be sure, but the ratio for dog vs cat food is:
Dogs 1 part protein (meat/eggs) 1 part grains 1 part veggie
Cats 1 part protein (meat/eggs) 1 part veggie/grain

cats need more protein....depending on how your set up is you can use eggs for your cat (not 100%though)
for our barn cats when the winter gets bad we give them bout 2-3 cups hard cat food-mixed with hot water and 1-2 raw eggs....we mix it all up and let it set so the hard food gets mushy and the temp has a chance to cool down. they LOVE it
If you are planning on having chickens as part of your preparations then this can help out with your cat :)
Be sure to test before hand...raw milk is an idea as well but some cats are allergic to milk


Honestly for turtles IDK what your really eats....can you put in a goldfish pond for them?....if they eat that kinda thing
I mean you have to worry bout your pond freezing and finding an alternate food source during the cold months
just an idea
 
Yep, we're planning on chickens next spring. ;)
Turtles eat cooked meat, cooked eggs, insects, and leafy veggies, so any preps that have these will take care of the turtle.
I've seen sites show how you can make your own dry cat and dog food too. Seems like a lot of work though, if just scraps may suffice.
 
We have pets and we have livestock. Everything here serves a purpose except maybe the hell spawn Sun Conure and the chinchilla. For the livestock, it would just mean bringing up everything close to the house every night and post someone out with them during the day. I've seen how fast a horse can be butchered out by 2 people and I really don't want to find just skin, guts and ears in my pasture one day. We run a double fence perimeter and the dogs have the middle corridor to run and keep an eye on things.
 
Three German Shepherds inside a ten acre fenced home perimeter ............not bugging out. Eating scraps and wildlife when the dog food runs out. Keep about 2 months dog food on hand and 2 years (due to expiration) of heartworm/ flea, tick preventative.
 
thanks for all the added knoledge i gained from reading that!, if any one can post some ideas on double fences that would be great!!!
thanks
 
1st i dont and wont have a cat.on acount thier fur makes my eyes itch,pluse it appears i have a alergy when it comes to thier fur...i have a dog in which she alerts me when someone or another animal is outside the house..i dont mind haveing a bird,turtle,or a gold fish,or what ever.(BUT) i wouldnt take them with me if i had to bug out.simply because that means extra every thing that id have to take along.and that aint good if i have to go it any on foot..i do buy dog food.but she'll stop eating that when it runs out after tshtf happns.and yes,that lil stinker already eats human foods...
 
Well i hate to be the ******* ! in this discussion but if u do take pets when u bug out and it comes to the life or death point of starving you could always eat the pet !

thats true.but as a last resort.especilly seeing how they can alert ya of whats comeing
 
It would have to be the last ! Thing on my list to eat they help so much in alarming and confortting your family through any situation
 
Get food that you can store for a year and rotate them. If you need to bug out, bring only good dogs that are trained, and will listen to you and be an asset/team player and not a burden. Sorry, i love dogs, but between my german shepherd and the yorkie, the shepherd is coming with me and the yorkie will stay behind
 
When I had my great danes, I loved them, but I must have a real cold spot in my heart because I occasionally thought that if it came down to it, I had a lot of meat walking around in my yard. I honestly think it would be kinder if we did give them a merciful end rather than turning them out on their own if they don't have an instinct to hunt. Most dogs that go wild will form a pack and that can be very dangerous to humans in a very hungry world.

As for cats... I, too, have allergies, which is why I have a rex cat. They are the "poodle" of cats with hair rather than fur. She looks like the bald cat from The Book of Eli with short hair that's been stuck in a crimping iron (that movie cat was actually a Sphynx - a registerable breed of cat). I wouldn't go so far as to extract cat oil from her as Eli did, but I would quickly put her out of our misery. I barely tolerate her now, not because of her hair but because of her attitude. She's only 4 pounds and not in the best of health anyway so I'd just bury her, not eat her.

Does anyone remember the dog food recalls some 6-7 years ago when pets were dying all over from tainted pet food? I lost 3 to that and began an intensive research of animal nutrition. The diet that made the most sense to me was actually called B.A.R.F. - Biologically Appropriate Raw Food. In the wild, if a dog kills and eats a rabbit, it will get at least 60% meat and bone and the other 40% consists of everything from heart, liver, kidneys, vegetation, grain, possibly fruit and herbs from the stomach. I put my dogs on that diet for as long as I could afford it. Every day, they had chicken (meat, bones, heart, gizzard, etc.), spinach, apple, eggs, yogurt, brown rice, garlic and I can't remember what else I put in it without consulting the book.) Within 2 weeks of starting that diet, I saw improved everything from coat texture and brightness of the eyes to their ability to focus in training and their energy was more positive and contained. If I'd had a livestock farm at the time, it probably would have been much less expensive. And that's my point: if you have livestock and a garden, your dog will get all the nutrition it needs without commercial dog food (cats, too). If you don't have a farm, are you prepared to hunt specifically to feed your dog? Or, are you willing to teach your dog to hunt for itself? Big dogs can help bring down game that will feed both you and them.

Since the advent of commercial dog food in the late 20's early 30's, the lifespan of all dogs has shortened. Prior to then, the average lifespan of a dog was 17-25 years. Much of the crap they put in dog food they aren't even able to digest, specifically corn (and GMO corn, I believe, is a primary cause of cancer in pets as well as humans). There was even a point where they were including as ingredients the euthanized bodies of animals from dog pounds and simply calling it "meat." Table scraps are far healthier for your dog than any dry food you can buy.

One more myth down the drain - raw chicken bones are very good for your dog. From the time of the recalls to when I recently gave away my last dane, every one of my dogs had 2 raw chicken leg quarters every day as the most important part of their diet. Any type of bone cooked can splinter and damage your dog internally, but raw bones are very easily digested by a dog's rapid, acidic digestive system.

Keep in mind that if your dog is going to eat a raw diet, it needs 8% of it's body weight daily to maintain health and energy.
 
It's the cooked chicken bones that are dangerous to dogs. If the SHTF, I suspect our dogs and cats will be eating a lot of frog, snake, and birds....as we have a ton of all of those here. Can't take a step without seeing a frog around my place.
 
It's the cooked chicken bones that are dangerous to dogs. If the SHTF, I suspect our dogs and cats will be eating a lot of frog, snake, and birds....as we have a ton of all of those here. Can't take a step without seeing a frog around my place.
Most frogs and toads are poisonous to dogs. Be careful with that.
 
Hmm...will have to check that then. Of course, lots of birds around here too.
 
Well i hate to be the ******* ! in this discussion but if u do take pets when u bug out and it comes to the life or death point of starving you could always eat the pet !

I would die with the pet. I have a Australian Shepard Mix, trained in S&R tactics. Going to be 3 years old come this September. I trust him more than my wife, so yeah if it comes down to it I'll face death with him.
 
i got a friendly reminder about changing a pet's diet..and its just important as taking your own diet into consideration..i bought some different doggie treats then what i normally buy.well needless to say she ended up with the runs/diarrhea..bottom line is,,buy what you buy now,for what's needed for a bug out situation..this will not only avoid problems with the pet in question.but you'll also avoid leaving a unwelcome trail as well..
 
i got a friendly reminder about changing a pet's diet..and its just important as taking your own diet into consideration..i bought some different doggie treats then what i normally buy.well needless to say she ended up with the runs/diarrhea..bottom line is,,buy what you buy now,for what's needed for a bug out situation..this will not only avoid problems with the pet in question.but you'll also avoid leaving a unwelcome trail as well..
You can avoid intestinal difficulties in pets by introducing new foods very gradually. But I want you to think very seriously about this: If you have to bug out and it looks like it's going to be for a very long time, do you really want to lug hundreds of pounds of dry dog food with you too? People food is much healthier for pets than commercial dog foods. Before the advent of commercial dog foods, most of our pets lived on what they could forage for themselves plus our table scraps. The average lifespan of a small breed dog in the 1920's was over 20 years, with even the Great Dane living as long as 18 years. Commercial dog food is killing our pets, folks, just like commercial foods are killing us.
My recommendation is that you start feeding your dog a small amount of your leftovers every evening after you are finished eating. Let them slowly get used to having real nutrition in their stomachs. Then, if you have to bug out, your dog will be able to eat your leftovers without having to worry about where you're going to put those hundreds of pounds of dog food.
 
i only buy the small bags of dog food seeing how i have a small dog..which means 10 pounds or less at any given time,when it comes to whats on hand..and as you said.human food is better for them.and thats what she mostly gets...
 

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