Putin claims Russia has unstoppable nukes
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It's all a dog and pony show.
Yes, they have the tech and know-how to build them.
But, what they DON'T have, are the FUNDS to build more than an example. Unlike the US (who has gradually upgraded and maintained built to last nukes), the Russians had a completely different outlook when they made theirs (it was simply a different philosophy of quantity over quality). If a nuclear war were to break out tomorrow, the vast percentage of Russian nukes would remain in their silos or on their out of gas launchers....some because they don't have fuel, and others, because the electronics in them have long deteriorated.
Putin is many things, but he isn't dumb though....he knows how to work with what he has.
Simply put, Russia can't AFFORD to reignite the Cold War. So, instead, it resorts to NK like saber rattling.....and it worked. Got you scared about it, eh? You won't be alone.
Yes, they have the tech and know-how to build them.
But, what they DON'T have, are the FUNDS to build more than an example. Unlike the US (who has gradually upgraded and maintained built to last nukes), the Russians had a completely different outlook when they made theirs (it was simply a different philosophy of quantity over quality). If a nuclear war were to break out tomorrow, the vast percentage of Russian nukes would remain in their silos or on their out of gas launchers....some because they don't have fuel, and others, because the electronics in them have long deteriorated.
Putin is many things, but he isn't dumb though....he knows how to work with what he has.
Simply put, Russia can't AFFORD to reignite the Cold War. So, instead, it resorts to NK like saber rattling.....and it worked. Got you scared about it, eh? You won't be alone.
Russia is perfectly capable of producing nuclear weapons. You're delusional about how indestructible you think the US is. You'd think a prepper like yourself would take these threats more seriously.
On the contrary. The real threat from Russia is already here. Sleeper agents with suitcase nukes. This has been the case since the late 7o's.
Of course, ours are over there too.
I think you misunderstand me. YES, they have the ability to build them...but they don't have the MONEY to, nor do they NEED it.
As that isn't the goal. This whole dog and pony show was for Trump's benefit. To force his administration to spend BILLIONS in updating our nuclear arsenal to combat these computer generated nightmares Putin showed to his people. It's actually quite brilliant.
It's a NEW way to fight the Cold War, get your enemy to spend, while you give the illusion of doing so.
Defenses not withstanding, there is also the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) to consider. There's no winner here. So it is just saber rattling.
As for "invulnerability"...your words, not mine. We are indeed still quite vulnerable, but not from the fantasy Putin showed on screens. It isn't some silly nationalist pride, it's simple logistics. How many weapons, what type, what delivery mechanisms, from what global bases, etc.
Simply put, the US spends more than most other nations COMBINED on their military. It isn't just some "go US!" mentality, it's a simple matter of spending.
But even for ALL of that, even with weapons up there that we would think of as science fiction vs. actual existence....we are still quite vulnerable to good old subterfuge.
As for prepping, I'm as prepared as I can be for a US/Russia nuke exchange. If I'm at work, I'm vaporized. Simple as that. If at home, I've got a shot, depending on how many nukes (and what size) they send at our closest target.
A nuclear war is not as unsurvivable as folks may think. Don't believe me? Go look at some current pics of modern day Nagasaki for example. Go to nukemap.com Choose nukes actually still in service, and the detonation point of an air blast, over an actual legit target near you, and see if you'd survive.
Of course, ours are over there too.
I think you misunderstand me. YES, they have the ability to build them...but they don't have the MONEY to, nor do they NEED it.
As that isn't the goal. This whole dog and pony show was for Trump's benefit. To force his administration to spend BILLIONS in updating our nuclear arsenal to combat these computer generated nightmares Putin showed to his people. It's actually quite brilliant.
It's a NEW way to fight the Cold War, get your enemy to spend, while you give the illusion of doing so.
Defenses not withstanding, there is also the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) to consider. There's no winner here. So it is just saber rattling.
As for "invulnerability"...your words, not mine. We are indeed still quite vulnerable, but not from the fantasy Putin showed on screens. It isn't some silly nationalist pride, it's simple logistics. How many weapons, what type, what delivery mechanisms, from what global bases, etc.
Simply put, the US spends more than most other nations COMBINED on their military. It isn't just some "go US!" mentality, it's a simple matter of spending.
But even for ALL of that, even with weapons up there that we would think of as science fiction vs. actual existence....we are still quite vulnerable to good old subterfuge.
As for prepping, I'm as prepared as I can be for a US/Russia nuke exchange. If I'm at work, I'm vaporized. Simple as that. If at home, I've got a shot, depending on how many nukes (and what size) they send at our closest target.
A nuclear war is not as unsurvivable as folks may think. Don't believe me? Go look at some current pics of modern day Nagasaki for example. Go to nukemap.com Choose nukes actually still in service, and the detonation point of an air blast, over an actual legit target near you, and see if you'd survive.
oh really?? says who? a ninja??
latest what that pjuuutin put up in his show and tell video show of his new nukes,was from some old video games,he's done it before
and some take the bait with hook,line and sinker..
latest what that pjuuutin put up in his show and tell video show of his new nukes,was from some old video games,he's done it before
and some take the bait with hook,line and sinker..
Another brilliantly constructed sentence.
Apparently few understand MAD. We have had nuclear brinkmanship, the game has been playing for 71yrs, both side do the huff n puff flexes it's muscle, scaring one into spending has been played many times over the years, to me its just deja vu, I'm not overly concern because MAD is still in affect. Gaz is absolutely correct, and jontte pretty well nailed, putin will say they created this super bomb and the only proof of it is animation to what looks like a video game they done it manytimes. Russian deception isn't for the government benefits it is to create fear amongst the masses forcing the government to react, its part of the brinkmanship. If anyone scarred then the propaganda worked!
Well, you are free to ignore reality if you'd like. That is your prerogative. Enjoy your little fantasy world of make-believe while you eat tofu and play ninja, but it won't change the real world we all still live in.
Again though, feel free to check it out for yourself. I gave you a site to see the effects of a real nuclear attack. You can simply Google to see the size of Russia's most common nukes, and then use that in the simulation... But you won't even do that much, because that would require effort. Much easier to try and feel superior and just poo poo it away. Or maybe you're just afraid to learn that all you've been told about nuclear war is BS? Either way, it doesn't change reality for the rest of the world. Some of us lived under the nuclear threat for decades and actually bothered to do the research on it.
its all for domestic consumption, Putin likes to act the hard man, sort of a Russian Rambo, but what he isn't is stupid, he knows, unlike that idiot in NK, that in an all out nuclear war NOBODY wins and we all lose.
Putin isn't dumb, that's for sure. He's also an economist. This was his major in school. He knows that Russia can't afford to get into another Cold War with the US. However he also knows that Trump's ego won't allow him to not respond to this dog and pony show by spending billions on more military. Meanwhile, it costs Russia nothing more than some computer animations.
Now, unless you missed it, I have ZERO doubt that Russia a) has the tech know how to deliver these weapons, and b) has at least one or a few prototypes of the missiles in question. However, they simply don't have the resources to actually field these weapons (and in many cases, actually build them). And, even if they DID, actually USING them would be suicidal. All circles back to MAD, the very concept that has kept the world out of world wars, for more than half a century.
Now, unless you missed it, I have ZERO doubt that Russia a) has the tech know how to deliver these weapons, and b) has at least one or a few prototypes of the missiles in question. However, they simply don't have the resources to actually field these weapons (and in many cases, actually build them). And, even if they DID, actually USING them would be suicidal. All circles back to MAD, the very concept that has kept the world out of world wars, for more than half a century.
Puttin came up through the Ranks of the Red Army then the KGB . Theres a picture of Him in a group of Officers one of which He personally executed . He's not stupid or incompetent. He knows how to play the Cold war politics . Thoes tactics don't work very well on the USA but threatens more vulnerable Countries .
I’m more concerned with what will happen earthquakes volcanoes. Some will be scarred of the political propaganda nothing we can say going to change that! All I can say is say off YouTube it’s full of armchair generals that buy into the propaganda and feed the uninformed... sad really
I still say the real threat (nuclear wise) is all of the suitcase nukes. Sure, these were rather bulky back in the 60's when they were really the thing, but I imagine they made huge strides by the 80's, when they were most likely deployed. Former top Russians have even stated that many of these (around 130 or so) were listed as "missing". I mean, what?
That's WAY scarier to me than any stealth nuke Russia would never launch for fear of MAD. I'm so hoping those guys were wrong, and it was more that they themselves were taken out of the loop on them.
I almost want to Google on these, but honestly, I'm not sure I want to even know any more about it. I think it was a news item back in the 90's.
That's WAY scarier to me than any stealth nuke Russia would never launch for fear of MAD. I'm so hoping those guys were wrong, and it was more that they themselves were taken out of the loop on them.
I almost want to Google on these, but honestly, I'm not sure I want to even know any more about it. I think it was a news item back in the 90's.
Even while I was in, the US had "tactical" nukes, small payload nukes mounted on Sea Sparrows and I heard, but never saw one, sidewinders. I've read that they could make artillery shell nukes, but not launch them far enough to avoid possible radiation effects.
I'm sure they can make them small enough to be very, very hard to find. And it wouldn't have to be a big megaton blast, it would be the fear factor of the nuke.
As far as Russia, and a new cold war... We live on a planet with a growing population, and the same or dwindling resources, and several high population countries becoming more technologically advanced. Russia, China, India... eventually there will be another war between major powers, I don't see how it doesn't happen. 10 years, 50 years? Who knows? But A full on nuke war?
I really believe that most world leaders actually want their countries and the people in them to be able to live, to grow and thrive. That's the point of power, of a capable military, of global influence. Maybe it enriches those leaders at the same time...
Hard to enjoy the spoils of war in a countryside made of fused radioactive glass.
But yes, we will be in a "cold war" with China, and India, and Russia, and any other rising powers, just due to population growth. And I don't think it is a war you can win, just a war you have to fight, or surrender and make due with a 3rd world economy and resources.
I'm sure they can make them small enough to be very, very hard to find. And it wouldn't have to be a big megaton blast, it would be the fear factor of the nuke.
As far as Russia, and a new cold war... We live on a planet with a growing population, and the same or dwindling resources, and several high population countries becoming more technologically advanced. Russia, China, India... eventually there will be another war between major powers, I don't see how it doesn't happen. 10 years, 50 years? Who knows? But A full on nuke war?
I really believe that most world leaders actually want their countries and the people in them to be able to live, to grow and thrive. That's the point of power, of a capable military, of global influence. Maybe it enriches those leaders at the same time...
Hard to enjoy the spoils of war in a countryside made of fused radioactive glass.
But yes, we will be in a "cold war" with China, and India, and Russia, and any other rising powers, just due to population growth. And I don't think it is a war you can win, just a war you have to fight, or surrender and make due with a 3rd world economy and resources.
Well, we could all use neutron bombs. Sure, they are supposed to be outlawed, but you know......
P.S. - Don't Google on them unless you want to be even MORE scared about it. Articles may seem to indicate it as more humane, but basically, it's designed to kill the people while leaving structures intact.....
At one time we had them deployed I think the Nike X though original deployed as a tactical warhead, what most people don't realize that effective radius area is smaller. I basically prefer them over conventional nukes.
Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, on one-hand, it could be used to limit the damage to military targets with less civilian fallout. On the other, it could be used to kill people while leaving the infrastructure more intact. Of course, how many are still operational and deployable, on each side...is mere guesswork.
The last one was taken off line in or 2011 I don’t think they destroyed I believe we have some that are warehoused... just guess
Well, so we "say".... That's just it though....I find it hard to believe we couldn't arm a B1 with tactical neutron nukes in a heartbeat if we truly wanted to.
Hell, I'd be willing to bet we could mount small ones on some fighters, especially any fighter/bomber craft.
Hell, I'd be willing to bet we could mount small ones on some fighters, especially any fighter/bomber craft.
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