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Anarchivist

Anarchivist

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Hello everyone,
I’m Anarchivist. I’m a teenager from the Greater St Louis Metropolitan Area. Almost all of my motivation for prepping is political. My personal projections for the continental US over the next 40 years are somewhat grim, due to increasing ethnic consciousness and diversity. This, coupled with declining birth rates in the native population, is cause for much concern in my view. Most of my political views are based around moderating the negative effects of these trends in my personal life. I’m something of a religious fanatic, recently begun conversion to Roman Catholicism. I’m fond of old rifles, very anti “tacticool”.
 
don't rule out the natural events either, there are enough of those in the US to be going on with.
 
bigpaul said:
don't rule out the natural events either, there are enough of those in the US to be going on with.
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Those are a concern, sure, but they aren’t as scary to me as political catastrophes. I would just go for a general preparedness strategy, because there’s no way to predict a specific natural catastrophe.
 
Howdy from Texas! I'm trying to be prepared for "anything" because I think what finally does it will be a combination - imagine a shaky political scene wracked by multiple natural disasters in one year (say, a Katrina/Andrew/Harvey type hurricane in the south, maybe a massive earthquake or wildfire in California, and a huge tornado outbreak in the midwest, all within a week or so.) Right at this time, there is an epidemic of swine flu or some other potentially deadly disease. While the country is reeling from this, there is a terrorist attack like, say, the Paris attacks. FEMA, the military, the police, the CDC, everyone would be overworked, spread too thin, and would not be receiving adequate support due to the faltering political system. The results would be devastating.
 
Maverick said:
Welcome from Washington State.

@Anarchivist whats with the emblem off the National Bolshevism or more accurately National Bolshevism 2.0? You anti-capitalist leaning towards socialism/stalinism?
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I’m way more NRx, but I love Dugin.
 
Anarchivist said:
I’m way more NRx, but I love Dugin.
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NRx, Yarvin, Dugin and Vikernes... a great selection of knobtwats for a solid grounding in racism, misogyny, homophobia and other elements of general loathsomeness. Fascism for the win, eh?

NRx on Reddit looks like a lot of bleating from a bunch of guys feeling all hard-done-by because the world is moving on without them, not realising that they're being left behind because they have done nothing to make themselves worth keeping. Small-souled irrelevancies circle-wanking over elaborate fantasies of themselves as hyper-masculine, tech-savvy Übermenschen at the top of a rigid authoritarian heirarchy (odd how they never seem to think they belong further down the heirarchy - seems statistically unlikely, but heigh-ho) rather than facing up to the hard work of becoming decent human beings by cultivating useful skills, helpful hands and kind souls.
 
Bluejoy said:
NRx, Yarvin, Dugin and Vikernes... a great selection of knobtwats for a solid grounding in racism, misogyny, homophobia and other elements of general loathsomeness. Fascism for the win, eh?

NRx on Reddit looks like a lot of bleating from a bunch of guys feeling all hard-done-by because the world is moving on without them, not realising that they're being left behind because they have done nothing to make themselves worth keeping. Small-souled irrelevancies circle-wanking over elaborate fantasies of themselves as hyper-masculine, tech-savvy Übermenschen at the top of a rigid authoritarian heirarchy (odd how they never seem to think they belong further down the heirarchy - seems statistically unlikely, but heigh-ho) rather than facing up to the hard work of becoming decent human beings by cultivating useful skills, helpful hands and kind souls.
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Lot of energy in that denunciation. Yarvin is in no way a fascist, viewing it as an extension of the madness of the 19th century. Dugin views fascism as a failed past ideology, of little present relevance. Vikernes has on several occasions come out in favor of democracy. The bulk of our political strategy, inasmuch as we subscribe to the concept, can be described as becoming decent, useful human beings to build a sane new order.
 
jontte said:
Dugin??
a russkie fascist and putin puppet...
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Dugin is not a fascist, again he views it as a past ideology of little present relevance. Not in anyway a puppet of Putin. He’s gone against Putin several times for being soft on the Ukrainian/Chechnyan issues. He’s often spoken against Putin and his oligarchical tendencies.
 
Anarchivist said:
Lot of energy in that denunciation. Yarvin is in no way a fascist, viewing it as an extension of the madness of the 19th century. Dugin views fascism as a failed past ideology, of little present relevance. Vikernes has on several occasions come out in favor of democracy. The bulk of our political strategy, inasmuch as we subscribe to the concept, can be described as becoming decent, useful human beings to build a sane new order.
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From some of the stuff on the Reddit site, a 'sane new order' based upon the subjugation of women, the embracing of imperialism and colonialism, etc., becoming totalitarian rulers, ad nauseam.
 
Bluejoy said:
From some of the stuff on the Reddit site, a 'sane new order' based upon the subjugation of women, the embracing of imperialism and colonialism, etc., becoming totalitarian rulers, ad nauseam.
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Imperialism and colonialism are actually, from a Human Resources standpoint, not all that profitable. Authoritarian rule is the norm throughout human history, whereas totalitarian government is a modern neurosis we reject.
 
Anarchivist said:
Imperialism and colonialism are actually, from a Human Resources standpoint, not all that profitable. Authoritarian rule is the norm throughout human history, whereas totalitarian government is a modern neurosis we reject.
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'Human Resources standpoint' and 'not all that profitable' - would you clarify?

What do you peceive as the negative effects on your personal life from 'increasing ethnic consciousness and diversity' and a declining birth rate amongst Native Americans? What are your politics? A few concrete and specific examples would help people to misunderstand what you mean and to avoid misinterpreting you :)
 
Bluejoy said:
I'm not sure what you mean by 'Human Resources standpoint' and 'not all that profitable' - would you clarify?

What do you peceive as the negative effects on your personal life from 'increasing ethnic consciousness and diversity' and a declining birth rate amongst Native Americans? What are your politics? A few concrete and specific examples would help people to misunderstand what you mean and to avoid misinterpreting you :)
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Simple. Most African/Asian colonies were unprofitable for the nation which operated them.

In terms of gradually increasing ethnic consciousness and ethnic diversity in the US, my worry is that large scale ethnic/racial conflict is becoming increasingly more likely. Due to the total incompetence of the federal government, the response to this crisis is likely to be hamfisted and hysterical. When I said native population, I was referring to the English/Scotch-Irish and other assimilated European ethnic groupings which comprised the majority in this country until 1965.
 
I think Dugin's problem is that he has had to express his philosophy in terms of existing predominant philosophies. He is like an anti-fascist fascist, or an anti-communist communist. When he expresses his core beliefs, they are really just conservative sentiments, but he has problems explaining how to get there in terms of existing systems, and those systems he favors have historically not achieved his vision.

"We, conservatives, want a strong, solid State, want order and healthy family, positive values, the reinforcing of the importance of religion and the Church in society".

But then he says he sides with Stalin, who policies did not bring about anything like that vision. He says he likes National Socialism, but when asked why it failed so miserably in Germany he blames it on the Germans, not on the philosophy itself.
 
Anarchivist said:
Simple. Most African/Asian colonies were unprofitable for the nation which operated them.

In terms of gradually increasing ethnic consciousness and ethnic diversity in the US, my worry is that large scale ethnic/racial conflict is becoming increasingly more likely. Due to the total incompetence of the federal government, the response to this crisis is likely to be hamfisted and hysterical. When I said native population, I was referring to the English/Scotch-Irish and other assimilated European ethnic groupings which comprised the majority in this country until 1965.
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So nothing to do with ethics, humanity, a tingling sensation of maybe-this-isn't-terribly-kind or anything like that, just monetary profit. Gotcha.

If you mean "white people", just say it, but just because a demographic is a majority doesn't mean it's 'native' - the invading, colonising and immigrant European ancestors of much of the modern white demographic were the opposite of native, as were the enslaved black people whom some of them shipped in. Descendants of both groups have only been on that land for a few hundred years, unlike the Native Americans descended from the original immigrants of millenia ago :D

What sort of politics do you espouse that you think will make make 'large scale ethnic/racial conflict' less likely? What actions are you taking to make it less likely?
 
Bluejoy said:
So nothing to do with ethics, humanity, a tingling sensation of maybe-this-isn't-terribly-kind or anything like that, just monetary profit. Gotcha.

If you mean "white people", just say it, but just because a demographic is a majority doesn't mean it's 'native' - the invading, colonising and immigrant European ancestors of much of the modern white demographic were the opposite of native, as were the enslaved black people whom some of them shipped in. Descendants of both groups have only been on that land for a few hundred years, unlike the Native Americans descended from the original immigrants of millenia ago :D

What sort of politics do you espouse that you think will make make 'large scale ethnic/racial conflict' less likely? What actions are you taking to make it less likely?
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The reason I said English/Scotch-Irish and assimilated Europeans and not just white people is because they are the native population of the United States. They may not be the original inhabitants of the continent, but when we speak of the US and Canada, we are speaking of ethnically European nations. I do not think any policies likely to reduce large-scale ethnic conflict are likely to be implemented. We are in for a very stormy century in terms of race relations. Personally, my plan is agree, amplify, accelerate. Just drop out of the system to the extent that is possible and let its own internal contradictions destroy it. Work to heighten the tensions whenever possible/tactically sensible, but otherwise just try to ride the tiger.
 
Anarchivist said:
The reason I said English/Scotch-Irish and assimilated Europeans and not just white people is because they are the native population of the United States. They may not be the original inhabitants of the continent, but when we speak of the US and Canada, we are speaking of ethnically European nations. I do not think any policies likely to reduce large-scale ethnic conflict are likely to be implemented. We are in for a very stormy century in terms of race relations. Personally, my plan is agree, amplify, accelerate. Just drop out of the system to the extent that is possible and let its own internal contradictions destroy it. Work to heighten the tensions whenever possible/tactically sensible, but otherwise just try to ride the tiger.
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Who are the 'we' in 'when we speak of the US and Canada, we are speaking of ethnically European nations.' Why does this 'we' not include in the 'native' population the descendants of the Black, Latinx, Chinese, etc., people who were resident in the US when it was formed as a nation? Why only those descended from 'English/Scotch Irish and assimilated Europeans'?

Your plan is 'agree, amplify, accelerate' what, exactly? Dropping out of the system... by going to college? 'Work to heighten the tensions' (which ones and how?) and the whole NRx schtick is suggestive of someone who has nothing to contribute to the world except ****-stirring. Is that really your intent? There are so many wonderful, enhancing, affirming, positive things you could do, why pick this? I'm baffled.
 
Bluejoy said:
Who are the 'we' in 'when we speak of the US and Canada, we are speaking of ethnically European nations.' Why does this 'we' not include in the 'native' population the descendants of the Black, Latinx, Chinese, etc., people who were resident in the US when it was formed as a nation? Why only those descended from 'English/Scotch Irish and assimilated Europeans'?

Your plan is 'agree, amplify, accelerate' what, exactly? Dropping out of the system... by going to college? 'Work to heighten the tensions' (which ones and how?) and the whole NRx schtick is suggestive of someone who has nothing to contribute to the world except ****-stirring. Is that really your intent? There are so many wonderful, enhancing, affirming, positive things you could do, why pick this? I'm baffled.
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Latins/Chinese were not present in any real sense. Africans were, but contributed nothing other than labor. The people who wrote the constitution, who comprised 90 percent of the population until 1965, belong to the previously stated category.

My intent in going to college is sort of a rebound plan/default option. I’m smart enough to do well on that track, plus I may change my mind on accelerationism. It’s happened before. It may happen again. Agree, Amplify, and Accelerate refers to present suicidal ideas/tendencies in the modern West. Ethnic diversity, transgenderism, homosexuality, fiscal irresponsibility, expanded welfare states, etc, etc. Most of my plans do, in fact, revolve around various wonderful, enhancing, affirmative, positive things to do. I plan to start a family young, contribute as much as possible to my church, and otherwise improve my life and the lives of others.
 
Anarchivist, I can't speak for other parts of the U.S., but the culture of the Deep South is anything but monochrome. The whites in the Deep South may not want to admit it, but without black influence Southern Culture would be drastically different. Food, speech, religion, even Southern Hospitality all have significant influences of red, yellow, black and white. Google "Mississippi Delta Chinese."

"Lily White Southern Culture" is a myth. Yes, the predominant European influence is Scots-Irish, but it has never been a pure European culture.
 
Anarchivist said:
Latins/Chinese were not present in any real sense. Africans were, but contributed nothing other than labor. The people who wrote the constitution, who comprised 90 percent of the population until 1965, belong to the previously stated category.

My intent in going to college is sort of a rebound plan/default option. I’m smart enough to do well on that track, plus I may change my mind on accelerationism. It’s happened before. It may happen again. Agree, Amplify, and Accelerate refers to present suicidal ideas/tendencies in the modern West. Ethnic diversity, transgenderism, homosexuality, fiscal irresponsibility, expanded welfare states, etc, etc. Most of my plans do, in fact, revolve around various wonderful, enhancing, affirmative, positive things to do. I plan to start a family young, contribute as much as possible to my church, and otherwise improve my life and the lives of others.
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Free and enslaved Africans fought on the patriot side during the American Revolutionary War; they contributed labour alongside language, political and religious discourse, food, music, scholarship, etc. - exactly like European and other ethnic groups. The US constitution was written by a tiny percentage of the resident population; the vast majority, whatever its ethnicity, contributed nothing to the writing.

You and I have very different conceptions of what constitutes life-affirming and positive behaviour and action. Ah well, I hope your soul will grow and flourish.
 
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