Reason for the landings

[VThillman]

One explanation, Meercat:

 

[Meerkat]

One explanation, Meercat:
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I told you they were real.I haven't seen one personally yet,but I have seen two obs come into the house and dance on my dresser,so maybe the aliens sent them?

 

[Meerkat]

Ok can we talk about all conspiracies on this thread or just aliens?

 

[VThillman]

I told you they were real.I haven't seen one personally yet,but I have seen two obs come into the house and dance on my dresser,so maybe the aliens sent them?

Back when the world and I were a decade or 4 younger, I house-sat for a friend who was spending a few days in the hospital, nursing a broken leg. One evening I got into his stash of pot; it was better stuff than I was used to. That night, after I slid into my sleeping bag on his couch, critturs roamed. I couldn't see 'em, but I could hear 'em. Funny thing is, I didn't care.

This anecdote does not, of course, have anything to do with those dancers.

Don't have to be extraterrestrials . . .

 

[Meerkat]

Back when the world and I were a decade or 4 younger, I house-sat for a friend who was spending a few days in the hospital, nursing a broken leg. One evening I got into his stash of pot; it was better stuff than I was used to. That night, after I slid into my sleeping bag on his couch, critturs roamed. I couldn't see 'em, but I could hear 'em. Funny thing is, I didn't care.

This anecdote does not, of course, have anything to do with those dancers.

I never did like pot but hubby use to like it. I saw the orbs without a high so mine were realI guess. I do know there is a spirit world but nobody would beleive my story's. So I don't tell them anymore. Mine always have witnesses.
I think there may be something rlse out there in the universe besides us though.

 

[UrbanHunter]

The coolest thing I ever saw was a falling star, but this one was different (I was out in the desert away from lights), as it was falling it was traveling in my general direction (West to East), you could see the tail but it was like watching a jet airplane way up in the sky flying towards you. Then when it was about 60 degrees above the horizon it blew apart into what appeared to be a 4 leaf clover (like you were looking into the center of the clover), colors were orange/reds blues and purple. It was a very beautiful, it was 48 years ago and it is still one of those sights that sticks in your mind...


Then again there was the time I was driving alone and it sounded like a space ship was passing right over you, but that was just Pink Floyd

 

[Cascadian]

It always seemed niave to me to think we are the only ones in a place bigger than we can understand.

 

[UrbanHunter]

I have to wonder, if there is "Intelligent" life out there and they had visited here in the past and they knew what kind of neighbors we would make, why would they let us know their forwarding address? I can see them hiding in the dark so we can't find them..... I mean look what we have done to every life form we have found in the past.....

 

[Neb]

There was that one time when ...

We drove non stop from Pittsburgh to Denver consuming something to stay awake for days that I was convinced there was something following us...

Soon thereafter I pulled over to let someone else drive because I was convinced cloaked figures where holding the road signs. Funny thing the mind without sleep.

I can't rule out ither intelligent like but the magnitude of of the universe and speed limit if the speed of light that keeps me questionable of ET.

Ben

 

[Neb]

I have to wonder, if there is "Intelligent" life out there and they had visited here in the past and they knew what kind of neighbors we would make, why would they let us know their forwarding address? I can see them hiding in the dark so we can't find them..... I mean look what we have done to every life form we have found in the past.....

Yes but that would require being able to ignore the limits of the speed of light or time spans exceeding millions of years.

Ben

 

[backlash]

Yes but that would require being able to ignore the limits of the speed of light or time spans exceeding millions of years.

Ben

Just because we can't do it doesn't mean other beings haven't.
Those are things we just haven't worked our way around yet.
A couple of hundred years ago it was impossible to travel horizontally at 100 MPH but we got around that.

 

[Supervisor42]

I have to wonder, if there is "Intelligent" life out there and they had visited here in the past and they knew what kind of neighbors we would make, why would they let us know their forwarding address? I can see them hiding in the dark so we can't find them..... I mean look what we have done to every life form we have found in the past.....

There is positive physical proof of stuff that they did here, scattered all over the planet.
Scientists all agree on one thing: it was impossible for humans, at the time it was done, to have done it.
Here's another thing. Look at all of the other animals on the planet, and humans.
Do you really think we didn't have some 'help' along the way?
We are obviously the product of somebody's experiment from thousands of years ago.

 

[Meerkat]

Hubby and his brother saw a huge UFO when they were kids he told the story here awhile ago. It was in the early 60s.He described it like the Bible describes a craft that has beautiful colors like jewels. I think its in the book of Ezekiel.
He was telling me the story and I told him I read about an object in the Bible that uses jewels to describe the color's of a craft.

 

[joel]

 

[Neb]

Just because we can't do it doesn't mean other beings haven't.
Those are things we just haven't worked our way around yet.
A couple of hundred years ago it was impossible to travel horizontally at 100 MPH but we got around that.

The speed of light is an absolute beyond which mass can not achieve without an infinite amount of energy. So movement within the space time continuum in the traditional sense of distance per unit time.

Aliens if they were to visit from distant galaxies would have to jump from one place in space to another without time passing.

In classical mechanics we think in the traditional 4 dimensional world, 3 dimensions of space and time being the forth. But there are theories that there are 10 dimensions or more. The effects if gravity may be the easiest to understand . All mass has gravity. Gravity warps space. Moons orbiting around a planet can be understood as not following an eliptical path in space but rather are following a straight path in a curved space.

That effect has been observed by watching light from a distant star passing behind a large mass like Jupiter. In a 4 dimensional space the planet should block the light. But observations have shown the star is still visible. This is understood as being due to space being warped by gravity so the light is traveling in a straight line in a warped space.

In a 10 dimentional world space time may actually a warped manifold. Where the manifold folds back on itself one location in space can intersect with another. Often refered to as a worm hole. But making the jump would require being able to navigate in 10-space and manipulate 10-space.

Returning to gravitation... We would have to be able to increase or decrease mass to bend that dimension. The other 5 dimensions... You tell me. That requires post graduate work in theoretical physics. Interesting but it is hard to get a real job with that kind of degree and I had a 13 year old to raise.

So I am saying there is theories that could explain inter galactic movement but in my minds eye, belief in a prime mover that thought time and space into existance when light was created is easier to understand.

Yes, I know. I went off the deep end again.

Ben

 

[SheepDog]

Ben,
You have a good grasp of the current belief system (religion) of space/time. Physicists adhere to Einstein's explanation because it matches most of what they observe. The problem is twofold;
The general theory of gravity doesn't work at the very small or the very large scales.
Einstein never included electromagnatism in his theory.

Galaxies exhibit properties that require extra gravity - so the physicists "fixed" it by coming up with "Dark Matter".
The "acceleration" of the expanding universe is contrary to the general theory too so they came up with "Dark Energy".
In order to allow for the warping of space/time Einstein fell back to the concept of aether. An electric universe solves those problems without using the cheats. It also better defines the "zero-point energy" that is a puzzle to physics.

The speed of light is a constant only because the yardstick is defined as compressing. We know it is not constant because it can be slowed in different media. To say it is constant in a vacuum would require the vacuum to be consistent in density and composition. It is clearly neither.

 

[Supervisor42]

The speed of light is an absolute beyond which mass can not achieve without an infinite amount of energy. So movement within the space time continuum in the traditional sense of distance per unit time.
Aliens if they were to visit from distant galaxies would have to jump from one place in space to another without time passing.
In classical mechanics we think in the traditional 4 dimensional world, 3 dimensions of space and time being the forth. But there are theories that there are 10 dimensions or more.

Respectfully disagree. There are 6 dimensions. Time is not the 4th, motion is.
Time is only an observer's prospective comparing one motion against another motion.
Every measurement of time is based on motion.
The movement (motion) of matter across the lower 3 dimensions at speeds greater than the speed of light is definitely possible when you consider the remaining 2 dimensions.
...But that's a topic for another time (pun) .

 

[Meerkat]

Respectfully disagree. There are 6 dimensions. Time is not the 4th, motion is.
Time is only an observer's prospective comparing one motion against another motion.
Every measurement of time is based on motion.
The movement (motion) of matter across the lower 3 dimensions at speeds greater than the speed of light is definitely possible when you consider the remaining 2 dimensions.
...But that's a topic for another time (pun) .

I second that emotion,but thats as much as I know about this subject.