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If you live in a rural area this may not be of concern to you at all, but those of us that live in the suburbs or city areas, this could be a real problem, real soon.

It seems China has refused (or severely cut back on) taking the worlds "garbage' for recycling. They site, pollution of material as a big reason for their announcement to cut back on recycling. Several people at my job didn't know we shipped a large portion of our stuff to be recycled to China.


https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-01-01/mountains-us-recycling-pile-china-restricts-imports

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesc...o-longer-take-our-recycled-junk/#50fbfb0a2122


I read an article from a recycling vendor in Oregon who admits to playing "musical chairs' with the pile they have collected.

Europe is scrambling and trying to get Vietnam and India to take more.

If there isn't a resolution soon, curb side service could come to a halt. What would we do then?

I am thinking of alternatives in case that happens.
 
If they can cut a whole mountain down just to make a road, they can bury mountains of trash. I burn everything but cans and bottles here.
 
I've read the us produces more waste per capita than all other nations.
I don't know why they don't have a lot more recycling programs at city and county levels. It amuses me that the landfills here have a do not accept list posted. If they won't take those products what do they think people will do with them? People end up throwing stuff at the end of dead end roads.
I don't believe there is any one answer to this issue. It is going to have to be an approach from several different avenues. Including recycling, reducing waste and consumption, and large scale programs.
 
Good example though on the asphalt. We need to find uses for all the debris we create. The days of just piling it up somewhere out of sight are coming to an end. Seriously, we are running out of room.
 
Good example though on the asphalt. We need to find uses for all the debris we create. The days of just piling it up somewhere out of sight are coming to an end. Seriously, we are running out of room.
There are a lot of things that can, and should, be done with waste products. The problem is that in many cases, and locations, recycling just doesn't make economic sense. Many communities have received government grants to set up recycling programs. All sounds good and "green", but many times all that trash that people separated, and paid extra in their monthly trash bill, ended up in a landfill anyway. Because in many cases there wasn't any local company to process the separated trash and it didn't make economic sense to haul it long distance. I think people should do what they can to reduce the amount of trash they generate.
 
its not just in the cities, plastic and cans are littered everywhere even out here in the countryside and they are no respecters of national parks its even on Dartmoor.
we recycle everything we can, our kerbside collection will only take cans and plastic bottles, anything not bottle shaped has to be taken to the recycling centre 15 miles away.
 
I remember a few years back it cost more for the truck to haul it than the load of crushed cardboard boxes were worth. I’m not sure if that is still the case. If manufacturers were faced with a recycle tax for cardboard and styrofoam maybe they would start to reduce some. I’m really not for more taxes here, just thinking out loud. Even if it costs to recycle it still needs to be done. I guess factoring it into the cost of goods is the best way though.
 
I remember a few years back it cost more for the truck to haul it than the load of crushed cardboard boxes were worth. I’m not sure if that is still the case. If manufacturers were faced with a recycle tax for cardboard and styrofoam maybe they would start to reduce some. I’m really not for more taxes here, just thinking out loud. Even if it costs to recycle it still needs to be done. I guess factoring it into the cost of goods is the best way though.
In the 90's my aunt lived out on a county road. There was a dump beyond where she lived. One day, a tractor trailer turned over and spilled an entire load of plastic grocery bags. It made me skeptical from that point on about recycling, but I do it anyways. I agree, I am not for more taxes, but I am for doing the right thing. If they raised taxes and did the right thing, I wouldn't mind. They usually raise taxes, and nothing ever happens.
If they banned plastic bags nation wide, they would do a lot for the environment, and reduce dependency on foreign oil. It would fix everything, that's for sure, but it would be a good start.

There are several documentaries that show what a costly, messy, not environmentally friendly thing recycling can be, but it is still better than the alternative.

I have a lot of news that Europe is scrambling and playing musical chairs with their recyclables since the announcement was made, but it is quiet here. Just because it is quiet doesn't make me think the US is prepared for what may come.
 
gettin' rid of plastic bags would be step one,they did ban them in Ruanda sometime ago,I haven't bought one in ages,have a shopping bag made from canvas.
I have a few myself. The endless of supply of plastic bags here bugs me.They are everywhere. If you go to the store and buy 10 items, the clerk will put them in 5 plastic bags. Then we, (me included) actually spend money on a storage bin to store our free plastic bags. ...it doesn't make any sense.
 
I don't like the idea of extra taxes or banning anything. However, when it comes to plastic bags, packing peanuts and styrofoam, I might be inclined to change my way of thinking about banning them. I try to reuse the plastic bags whenever possible but most still end up in the burn barrel. Normally I burn our trash about once a week and take the non burnables to the dump monthly. Our local store offers a choice between paper or plastic, most people opt for plastic. The wife uses canvas bags for shopping sometimes too.
 
Recycling for the most part is a joke. It costs more to recycle than the 'new' materials are worth. Bury them in a dump. If in 100 years we find a way to 'recycle' effectively, then dig it up & use it then.

I recycle cardboard because I toss it by the truckload. Nothing else.
 
I try to recycle everything,foodwise it's zero,what I buy I eat,plastic is something I avoid,as I don't wan't that crap to be found in the water.

We do too. We have also started buying food in more eco-friendly packaging, or at least making the effort to.

Hell, we’ve been trying to grow our own veggies and preserving them for a long time.

I’m tired of seeing plastic floating as well.
 
I save and use mine. I tell the grocer to not double bag and dont use them for anything with a hadle.

Just how versatile are plastic grocery bags? Well, let me count the ways:

1. Place plastic grocery bags in bathroom trash cans for use as a bag liner. (Just don’t forget to keep extras in the bottom for rapid replacements.)

2. When you ball them up they can be used as mattress or pillow stuffing.

3. If you have a broken arm or leg, you can use plastic bags to help keep the cast dry while taking a bath or shower.

4. Plastic bags are also great for holding dirty diapers.

5. Line your cat’s litter box with them.

6. Speaking of pets, plastic bags are perfect for picking up dog and cat poo.

7. Use them in your luggage to keep your wet clothes separate from your dry clothes, and your clean clothes from dirty ones.

8. When traveling with a suitcase, plastic bags can also be used to protect your shoes from scuffs — or keep stinky shoes from affecting your other clothes.

9. Most everyone knows you can use them as a simple lunch sack. Or do they?

10. Got a leaky bottle or jar? Use a section of plastic bag as a seal prior to screwing a cap onto the container.

11. If the forecast calls for frost, you can protect delicate plants by placing a plastic bag over them the night before.

12. Plastic grocery bags can be used as packing material for fragile items.

13. To prevent messy leaks when defrosting meat, place the meat in a plastic bag, along with a paper towel.

14. For cars that are parked in the open, you can place plastic bags over the side mirrors and wiper blades to keep them free from snow or freezing rain.

15. Painting a large room and need to take a break? Wrap your paint brushes and rollers in plastic bags to keep them from drying out so fast.

16. Plastic bags can be used as cheap disposable gloves for handling unpleasant things.

17. They’re also great for storing old rags.

18. Use them as a non-stick surface for rolling out dough.

19. When I’m tasked to watch a neighbor’s home for an extended period of time, I use plastic bags to hold their mail until they return.

20. And nothing is better for tossing out moldy fruit or stinky refrigerator leftovers that, um, need a shave.

21. Use plastic bags to make kitchen spills easier to clean up by placing all your wet paper towels in them.

22. In a pinch? When traveling on the road and you’re miles away from the nearest facilities, you can use them as emergency toilet paper.

23. You can also use them as a makeshift shoe horn.

24. Plastic bags can be used to coat chicken or beef with flour prior to cooking.

25. While you’re in the kitchen, keep in mind that you can wrap your homemade bread in a plastic grocery bag. Those who know say the bag will help keep the bread fresh while still allowing it to breathe.

26. By the way, if you find yourself out of bread crumbs, you can also use them to crush crackers without making a mess.

27. When you’re working the garden, try wrapping some plastic bags around your knees to not only keep them dry and clean, but also provide a little extra cushiony comfort.

28. Oh, and while your busy tending to the yard, don’t forget you can also use plastic shopping bags to collect those smaller yard clippings.

29. Plastic bags are often used as emergency rain gear.

30. You can also use them to bring home your wet clothes.

31. Hopefully, you’ve also kept a few extra plastic bags in the car and near your home’s front door for storing those muddy shoes.

32. And, hey, even if it isn’t raining you can still use them to waterproof all kinds of stuff.

33. You can use plastic bags to store Christmas wreaths and decorations.

34. When traveling, store perfumes and other toiletries in a plastic bag to prevent leaks from making a mess.

35. Got a son or nephew who owns a G.I. Joe? Plastic grocery bags make great parachutes for them!

36. And you can loop multiple plastic bags together to make a plastic rope too. (For you, not the G.I. Joe.)

So there you have it! That’s 36 uses for plastic shopping bags, and I know you folks probably have a bunch more that I failed to mention.
 
Since 2015 there has been a 5p charge for plastic carrier bags in larger stores in the UK.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...he-charge/carrier-bags-why-theres-a-5p-charge
with proceeds going to good causes(not the government) chosen by the store companies.

Apparently the difference made is huge. There has been an 85% drop in plastic bag usage since the charge was imposed https://www.theguardian.com/environ...drops-85-per-cent-since-5p-charged-introduced
One supermarket chain has done away with the 5p bags altogether. If you need a bag, you pay 10p for a biodegradable bag.

When you go shopping in the big supermakets round here, you see almost everyone using bags for life. So it has definitely worked.
 
We switched to reusable cloth bags a few years ago. I drove by a Walmart here in town, that has a cornfield on the other side of the road... I was blown away by the amount of plastic bags blown across the road and stuck in the fence and corn. Almost like a bale of them fell off a truck and got blown all over. I imagine that farmer loves getting them out of the corn head on the combine every year.

I cant understand why Walmart isn't forced to clean them up. Its pretty obvious where they come from.
 

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