I would like you say thanks to all and am glad to see there are like minded persons like me. I have been in the Middle east (Iraq and Afghanistan) for the last few years and have seen the way people pillage and suffer from the social breakdown. In these country's the people are starving, the lack of medical care and poor local government support. I am actively prepping with the family to prevent this from being us if anything was to happen within our area. The biggest concern for me is the weather but i want to be ready for anything. Thanks before for all the great information to help everyone to provide better for themselves.