10% to God, 90% to savings. Okay, I might buy a gun before the rest goes to savings.
Sorry, but I'M NOT TURNING IT IN!!
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10% to God, 90% to savings. Okay, I might buy a gun before the rest goes to savings.
God doesn't need the money. 
The little church could probably find a use for it.
The little church could probably find a use for it.
God doesn't need the money.
The little church could probably find a use for it.
We don't tithe by Mosaic law, we tithe by choice. Not so God can have the money, but so our 90% is blessed. Best investment we have ever made.
I knew you would get that and take it properly.
I have known pastors that had to have new cars, appliances and furniture and then go back to the congregation to have the church painted.
My short stint as a pastor was pro bono and I paid for some of the upkeep to the chapel and grounds. I made enough money to do it so it was my gift to the congregation.
I have known pastors that had to have new cars, appliances and furniture and then go back to the congregation to have the church painted.
My short stint as a pastor was pro bono and I paid for some of the upkeep to the chapel and grounds. I made enough money to do it so it was my gift to the congregation.
I just wrapped up being the head of budget and finance for our church for two 3 year terms. It's amazing how heavily our church is supported by the 30 or so families who tithe and the 10 or so families who make a large annual gift. Meanwhile we have another 400 or so attendees who may or may not throw in a couple bucks on Sunday. There are also a number of people in that group who maybe give $100-200 a year, then complain that we don't spend enough on the children's ministry or outreach.
We have 3 Pastors and while it seems like they are paid well if you look at their annual salary, they seem underpaid when you calculate it by the hour.
Good for you. I remember returning to a book store because the check I paid for my books was in one of the books when I got home. Had to make a trip to take it back as I knew the register would be short that night.
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This is me as well. I was at the grocery store, walked out and realized that something had not been paid for. I went back in, got in line, and when I got to the clerk, relayed that an item had not been paid for. The clerk gave me an odd look and said something like, "You are an honest person."
Also, if someone gives me change (cash), and it is incorrect, I let them know, one way or another, in my favor, or in theirs. When I have worked cash registers, I was told I always had the most accurate cash in the drawer, relative to the calculator for the machine.
"Thou shall not steal." And if you find something that is not yours and you do not try to find the owner, guess what? It is theft by opportunity. On the other hand, what if you lost a large sum of money? Would you want it returned? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
The last Halloween party I had in my classroom was stymied by someone's missing $1 or $2. As the teacher and example setter for around 30 young people, I could have just moved on. Nope, not me. The party had not started yet, but was getting close to the time and it was not going to start unless or until the money was returned. We had a place in an unoccupied private space where everyone had a turn to go in and leave the money, if they had taken it. Everyone was going to have a turn to go in, one at a time. I really had no idea who had taken the money before they started going in. After a few children had had their turn, the money showed up, and then we could get ready for our party. I could narrow in on who had had a turn, and in retrospect, it was a boy who was the apple of his mother's eye, and who had the nicest of everything and was treated as though he was very special, even though his mother lived in government housing. I suspect he was pretty narcissistic.
Do you want honest friends, people who would return found money, or are you okay with people who would be happy to take what was someone else's and keep it, not matter how they came into potentially having it?
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I just wrapped up being the head of budget and finance for our church for two 3 year terms. It's amazing how heavily our church is supported by the 30 or so families who tithe and the 10 or so families who make a large annual gift. Meanwhile we have another 400 or so attendees who may or may not throw in a couple bucks on Sunday. There are also a number of people in that group who maybe give $100-200 a year, then complain that we don't spend enough on the children's ministry or outreach.
We have 3 Pastors and while it seems like they are paid well if you look at their annual salary, they seem underpaid when you calculate it by the hour.
Aren't there some people who belong to a church so that they have a place to get help when they want or need it? There are people who are often looking for help with rent, utilities or food.
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I'd buy us another skoolie only have to get somebodyelse to convert now,we are not able. Plus it took us 7 years off and on to get it like we wanted it. We still took trips in it though from day one when it wss still yellow. First time I'd ev been under a bus, had to hol wrench while hubby took out seat brackets.no way do that again now.
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.Really not much needed though. Welive a very simple lifestyle.
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For most of them I'd have to point out the nearest Labor Pool job place. Soon as all the American suckers lose their credit cards ' shtf' they can join the freeloaders. In most cases GoFundMe is a joke.
The homeless in this nation has made being down and out a lifestyle. We have always gave to those who were down through no fault of their own. Some healthy mama with a bunch o kids is not my idea of down and out.
Hubby lost his job and we were broke, we didn't ask anoney for anything, we both went to work at Labor Pool. I was loading rocks into giant basket for high rise bridges in Jax,Florida. Hands were bleeding but we made it without asking for anything.
I do agree it would be fun giving away other peoples money though.
That might be, but not at my church. Someone like that would would stand out like a black man at a KKK meeting. We are very 'engaging' and 'participatory' in our ministry. We do have a benevolence fund but it is not something that one asks for, it is something you have to be submitted for and then it's approved by a committee. We spend about $3,000 a month or so on benevolence on a variety of things, like having our elderly member's snow removed in winter or helping a widowed mom of 2 buy Christmas gifts. And it's not our money, it's God's money. Which is why we also help other churches in our community that have far less money coming in than we do. We replaced the floor of a small local church last year that had some water damage.
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Helping widows and orphans or the sick is a good thing. Also one who lost job through no fault of their own. Thats Bibiele .
So many now a days won't work or be respnsible because they don't have to.
I have a family member who just got fixed after having kids by a loser who won't work.
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In this instance, I'd buy a much nicer couch.
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