UN and World Food Program warning on Al Jaz

[BillMasen]

Not a problem our community needs to worry about YET, BUT they are warning that the Pandemic and the massive economic and employment etc that by the end of 2020 there could be up to 100,million people facing starvation across the world. The main aspect we may need to look at IN TIME is they believe tens of millions of Africans and South American may decide to become refugees and head north to europe and the US.

My concerns are that if one of the after effects of the Coronavirus Pandemic is that many nations could end up reacxting to the hardships and turn SOCIALIST, because most Socialist Politicians believe we should have open borders and let the migrants in enmasse.

 

[jontte]

I know it might seem a little harsh,but the pill to cure that problem is readily availabe and comes in the size of 7,62x39....we have no obligation
to be the welfare office of that ,for ex African continent..

 

[BillMasen]

I know it might seem a little harsh,but the pill to cure that problem is readily availabe and comes in the size of 7,62x39....we have no obligation
to be the welfare office of that ,for ex African continent..

Trouble is Jontte as you well know that the loony left feel a great sense of debt to their fellow men, but they intend to use you're money to pay it.

 

[Brent S]

Trouble is Jontte as you well know that the loony left feel a great sense of debt to their fellow men, but they intend to use you're money to pay it.

I am all for helping out others, to a point. I don’t think making the world into a welfare state is the answer

 

[DrHenley]

The US is THE major food exporting country in the world, with more exports than the next two combined (Germany & UK). China is #4.

I bet y'all in the UK didn't know you were #3 in the world. That was surprising to me.

What happens when we all stop exporting food because we only have enough for domestic use?

 

[lonewolf]

i'm more interested in the food the UK IMPORTS.

 

[DrHenley]

i'm more interested in the food the UK IMPORTS.

Taking a wild guess...

Tea?

 

[lonewolf]

Taking a wild guess...

Tea?

among a LOT of other things.
BTW I don't drink tea.

 

[DrHenley]

BTW I don't drink tea.

I know, you drink instant coffee. I'm just poking some fun at Brits in general. LOL

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Not a problem our community needs to worry about YET, BUT they are warning that the Pandemic and the massive economic and employment etc that by the end of 2020 there could be up to 100,million people facing starvation across the world. The main aspect we may need to look at IN TIME is they believe tens of millions of Africans and South American may decide to become refugees and head north to europe and the US.

My concerns are that if one of the after effects of the Coronavirus Pandemic is that many nations could end up reacxting to the hardships and turn SOCIALIST, because most Socialist Politicians believe we should have open borders and let the migrants in enmasse.

Yep. Most politicians these days see the power in socialism and the very wealthy see it too. All you have to do is look at Venezuela to see that the politicians and wealthy have had zero problems. They are still eating and partying like before. It’s just the people who are suffering so badly.

 

[tmttactical]

Yep. Most politicians these days see the power in socialism and the very wealthy see it too. All you have to do is look at Venezuela to see that the politicians and wealthy have had zero problems. They are still eating and partying like before. It’s just the people who are suffering so badly.

Yes the DISARMED poor.

 

[BillMasen]

Yes the DISARMED poor.

Is EVERYTHING in your life to do with guns?? it certainly asppears to be a borderline obsession . BTW there are MILLIONS of guns in Venezuela.

 

[tmttactical]

Is EVERYTHING in your life to do with guns?? it certainly asppears to be a borderline obsession . BTW there are MILLIONS of guns in Venezuela.

YES. Hodgon even developed a shotgun powder just for people like me. It s called "TiteWad". As for the "Millions of Guns" in VZ, would you care to provide your reference source? Please to don't count the guns provided to the gangs by the government.

 

[Brent S]

Is EVERYTHING in your life to do with guns?? it certainly asppears to be a borderline obsession . BTW there are MILLIONS of guns in Venezuela.

I read that guns ownership was rescinded in 2012 under Chavez.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Is EVERYTHING in your life to do with guns?? it certainly asppears to be a borderline obsession . BTW there are MILLIONS of guns in Venezuela.

Guns were banned under Chavez in Venezuela. The criminals all have them, but not innocent citizens.

 

[BillMasen]

I read that guns ownership was rescinded in 2012 under Chavez.

I think there was no way of enforcing it outside the biggest cities.

 

[BillMasen]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela

Disarmament
In 2013, it was reported that Venezuela was one of the most weaponized areas in the world, with one firearm per two citizens.[48] On 22 September 2014, President Maduro announced that his government would invest $47 million to create 60 new disarmament centers, and $39 million to fund a plan under which soldiers would patrol the most dangerous neighborhoods.[129] In a Cabo Vadillo (es) episode revealing crime in Caracas, it is stated that at the time of recording in 2014, there were over 5 million illegal firearms in a city of about 5 million people.[130] Colectivos stated to the Venezuelan government that they were not going to participate in the disarmament plan, stating that they were groups involved with the Bolivarian Revolution and that criminal gangs should instead be focused on.[122]

Number of guns in Venezuela went UP after the Chavez gun ban.

Number of Privately Owned Firearms
ChartThe estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in Venezuela is

2017: 5,895,0001
2012: 3,250,0002
Compare
Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
ChartThe estimated rate of private gun ownership (both licit and illicit) per 100 people in Venezuela is

2017: 18.501
2012: 11.22 6
Compare
Number of Privately Owned Firearms - World Ranking
In a 2007 comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, Venezuela ranked at No. 277

 

[tmttactical]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela

Disarmament
In 2013, it was reported that Venezuela was one of the most weaponized areas in the world, with one firearm per two citizens.[48] On 22 September 2014, President Maduro announced that his government would invest $47 million to create 60 new disarmament centers, and $39 million to fund a plan under which soldiers would patrol the most dangerous neighborhoods.[129] In a Cabo Vadillo (es) episode revealing crime in Caracas, it is stated that at the time of recording in 2014, there were over 5 million illegal firearms in a city of about 5 million people.[130] Colectivos stated to the Venezuelan government that they were not going to participate in the disarmament plan, stating that they were groups involved with the Bolivarian Revolution and that criminal gangs should instead be focused on.[122]

Number of guns in Venezuela went UP after the Chavez gun ban.

Number of Privately Owned Firearms
ChartThe estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in Venezuela is

2017: 5,895,0001
2012: 3,250,0002
Compare
Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
ChartThe estimated rate of private gun ownership (both licit and illicit) per 100 people in Venezuela is

2017: 18.501
2012: 11.22 6
Compare
Number of Privately Owned Firearms - World Ranking
In a 2007 comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, Venezuela ranked at No. 277

Now how many are legal (owned by average citizens) and how many belong to the gangs. The Maduro government has provided guns to the gangs in return for help controlling the people. The Colectivos are not your local Neighborhood Watch group. They are the organized gangs, that operate freely with the support and protection of the government and the police.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela

Disarmament
In 2013, it was reported that Venezuela was one of the most weaponized areas in the world, with one firearm per two citizens.[48] On 22 September 2014, President Maduro announced that his government would invest $47 million to create 60 new disarmament centers, and $39 million to fund a plan under which soldiers would patrol the most dangerous neighborhoods.[129] In a Cabo Vadillo (es) episode revealing crime in Caracas, it is stated that at the time of recording in 2014, there were over 5 million illegal firearms in a city of about 5 million people.[130] Colectivos stated to the Venezuelan government that they were not going to participate in the disarmament plan, stating that they were groups involved with the Bolivarian Revolution and that criminal gangs should instead be focused on.[122]

Number of guns in Venezuela went UP after the Chavez gun ban.

Number of Privately Owned Firearms
ChartThe estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in Venezuela is

2017: 5,895,0001
2012: 3,250,0002
Compare
Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
ChartThe estimated rate of private gun ownership (both licit and illicit) per 100 people in Venezuela is

2017: 18.501
2012: 11.22 6
Compare
Number of Privately Owned Firearms - World Ranking
In a 2007 comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, Venezuela ranked at No. 277

Since we don’t live there we have to take other people’s word for things. That Prepper from Venezuela Jose Martinez said it didn’t matter if you still had a weapon, there wasn’t any ammo to be had. And of course the government, that promised protection, hired the gangs to keep people under control.

 

[DrHenley]

It doesn't matter how many guns are in a country if they are all in the hands of outlaws.

The old addage "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is not just a saying, it is a self evident axiom.

 

[BillMasen]

Now how many are legal (owned by average citizens) and how many belong to the gangs. The Maduro government has provided guns to the gangs in return for help controlling the people. The Colectivos are not your local Neighborhood Watch group. They are the organized gangs, that operate freely with the support and protection of the government and the police.

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You asked """ As for the "Millions of Guns" in VZ, would you care to provide your reference source?"" I have provided the information and in Venezuela as you well know but try to ignore most of the Gangs ARE the same poor people. 3.25 million in 2012 and 5.8 million NOW.

 

[tmttactical]

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You asked """ As for the "Millions of Guns" in VZ, would you care to provide your reference source?"" I have provided the information and in Venezuela as you well know but try to ignore most of the Gangs ARE the same poor people. 3.25 million in 2012 and 5.8 million NOW.

I agree and disagree. Yes the gangs do consist of many poor people but disagree that the poor people are the gangs. The vast majority of the poor people are victims caught between the gangs and the government. I will concede there maybe some guns in the hands of honest citizens but as you pointed out there is no ammo. To my way of thinking, that is the same as gun disarmament. Firearms without ammo are just heavy metal objects to be thrown at varmints. The VZ people voted in a Socialist government, surrendered their rights for safety and security and now have neither. Just one reason I am so obsessed about firearms and my freedoms. I don't plan on surrendering either.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

“ The VZ people voted in a Socialist government, surrendered their rights for safety and security and now have neither. Just one reason I am so obsessed about firearms and my freedoms. I don't plan on surrendering either.”

Personally, I wish more people were as aware and alarmed at government attempting to disarm us...or take access to ammo. They have been working on that in Cali.

 

[tmttactical]

“ The VZ people voted in a Socialist government, surrendered their rights for safety and security and now have neither. Just one reason I am so obsessed about firearms and my freedoms. I don't plan on surrendering either.”

Personally, I wish more people were as aware and alarmed at government attempting to disarm are...or take access to ammo. They have been working on that in Cali.

The Cali ammo law was just made invalid by the courts and the state request for a stay was turned down. Freedom to purchase ammo and have it shipped to your front door, is legal again. I already have a ammo shipment headed to my son in California. Some freedoms has returned to California.