Weapon free Britain

[Silent Earth]

In this little gun and knife controlled country in London alone 26 people have been stabbed or shot to death in 8 weeks, over the last TEN months there was 4178 stabbings in the UK. The UK police are only raising the issue because nearly all of the attackers and victims are black or Asian and focused around London, Birmingham and Manchester and they are worried we are not more outraged at the numbers of young blacks dying !!!

 

[user 6493]

ah yes the brits,,,,,,well they let their government disarm them,,,,,they made their bed,,let them sleep in it

 

[TexasFreedom]

Let me help. I am outraged!

Yes, outraged. That only 4k thugs got themselves stabbed. Why so low? I have no troubles with thugs stabbing and killing other thugs. They need to step up their game. If the police aren't going to do anything about these white-hating muslims, then let the muslims kill each other as fast as they can. And until they achieve that level, I will continue to be outraged!

There. Does that help?

 

[Squirtgunsquirter]

Guns, knives, baseball bats, electrical cords, beer steins, trucks, bombs, battery acid, weaponized virus, road bricks, glass shards, human fists and feet, poisons, fire, electrical shocks, pointy sticks, candlestick holders, pots and pans...

People have been killing each other since day one.

It's a choice. Once the choice is made, and the mindset is there and a course of action is set... the tool used really doesn't matter.

No place can be made "weapon free", it's just not possible. Humans are all about using tools, and inventing tools to make tools for a specific purpose whether the purpose is pounding a nail, or ending a life.

London, Chicago, Detroit, Mumbai, Cairo, Paris... As long as a culture exists that produces youth desensitized to killing, or who glorify the act of killing, for whatever reason whether the reasons are economic, racial, criminal organizations, religious... then no weapon ban can ever be effective. You can only ever change the weapon of choice.

I don't blame Britain, or any country for banning certain guns. I blame the Governments for failing to admit that the bans only potentially victimize those law abiding citizens who cannot physically defend themselves with other means at hand. I'm not saying it could never happen, but I don't expect a 65 year old woman to defend her life with a beer stein, or a road brick, or a pen knife. And Governments know this, they must. So "weapon bans" IMO, are never about the safety of society. They are about the peace of mind of a Government. A box to check off. Weapons banned? Check. A block of voters convinced something has been done to protect them and make them safe? Check. That's all it is to me. If I wanted someone to be safe, in a bad area, would I take a gun away from them? Of course not. I would gift them with a gun they could best carry, and best use with a minimum of training. Because that's the best, easiest, defense among many self defense choices for many people.

If those segments of British society who are happily busy stabbing each other over drugs or criminal enterprises or "their patch", were suddenly to decide to go out, en masse, and stab members of polite society, who would stop them? The police, but only eventually. Not immediately. Gun bans are a ban on immediate defense, the only recourse being justice after the fact, it is hoped.

And oh yeah, hammers...

 

[Kevin L]

If I lived in Britain and wanted to be armed (especially in my home), I would build a crossbow from scraps.

Also, I don't believe a primitive gun (like a blunderbuss) is difficult to make.

I would use steel pipe secured to a stock with metal hose clamps, I would make powder from sugar and potassium permanganate (water softener), and ball bearings for shot.

An improvised gun is doable.

Even keeping a turkey baster syringe loaded with a concentrated lye solution and squirted in a criminal's face has stopping power to spare. This weapon is, actually, based on a ninjutsu weapon involving two closely fitting pipes that squirt a corrosive solution into the target's eyes.

I would not be unarmed in a restrictive country unless I chose to be unarmed.

Guns are not the only answer for self-defense.

Improvised weapons have an advantage because the components look innocuous and can pass a casual inspection until, of course, you put them together.

I would even fashion shaken (or shuriken, depending upon your view) from sheet steel, and treat them with homemade cyanide.

And so on.

 

[Kevin L]

Also, I forgot to mention that I've used live snakes for self-defense (or, perhaps, deterrant if you prefer).

I used to ride the subway with my pet boa constrictor, smile a lot, and talk to myself...and everybody would leave me alone.

I once had a pet timber rattler (about 3 1/2 feet long), and stored my cash and jewelery in a container in the substrate of the cage.

Do I advocate keeping venomous snakes?

No, I don't.

My situation was unique, and I was a different person back then.

 

[user 6493]

lol,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[DrHenley]

My situation was unique, and I was a different person back then.

Some might say you are still a "different person"

 

[Kevin L]

I'm not crazy...no matter what the voices say!

 

[Silent Earth]

If I lived in Britain and wanted to be armed (especially in my home), I would build a crossbow from scraps.

Also, I don't believe a primitive gun (like a blunderbuss) is difficult to make.

I would use steel pipe secured to a stock with metal hose clamps, I would make powder from sugar and potassium permanganate (water softener), and ball bearings for shot.

An improvised gun is doable.

Even keeping a turkey baster syringe loaded with a concentrated lye solution and squirted in a criminal's face has stopping power to spare. This weapon is, actually, based on a ninjutsu weapon involving two closely fitting pipes that squirt a corrosive solution into the target's eyes.

I would not be unarmed in a restrictive country unless I chose to be unarmed.

Guns are not the only answer for self-defense.

Improvised weapons have an advantage because the components look innocuous and can pass a casual inspection until, of course, you put them together.

I would even fashion shaken (or shuriken, depending upon your view) from sheet steel, and treat them with homemade cyanide.

And so on.

We don't have to build crossbows they are legal, we have some beauts. we just cannot hunt (legally) with them. I have two plus two compound bows.

 

[lonewolf]

even if sales of all weapons were banned we can still make wooden bows from what we find in the woods.

 

[Kevin L]

We don't have to build crossbows they are legal, we have some beauts. we just cannot hunt (legally) with them. I have two plus two compound bows.

That's good.

Remember, a crossbow with a razorhead can penetrate a Kevlar vest.

If you take an insecticide called Black Leaf 40 (common in U.S., don't know if it exists in Britain), it can be gently boiled down and concentrated, and used to treat arrows.

If you do this, paint it on the shafts...not the heads. This is a safety measure in case you cut yourself accidentally.

 

[user 7704]

even if sales of all weapons were banned we can still make wooden bows from what we find in the woods.

I did see the episode of Doomsday Preppers where they made the bows from pvc

 

[lonewolf]

I did see the episode of Doomsday Preppers where they made the bows from pvc

I've seen a lot of those on youtube but most of them seem to need a heat gun and a piece of wood to go inside the pvc to strengthen it.

 

[drt4lfe]

slam fire shotguns are easy to make, even a caveman could do it.....

 

[lonewolf]

slam fire shotguns are easy to make, even a caveman could do it.....

a caveman wouldn't have had access to metal??

 

[Psalm7]

The Brits I do believe can own the best cross bows , recurve , traditional archery . Some firearms allowed with permit . If Their Conservative groups could get together on some issues They could fix some of the problems that the Leftist have brought on Them .

 

[lonewolf]

I've got crossbows, but just because I got them at a knockdown price, I prefer traditional English wooden bows if I had to choose.

 

[drt4lfe]

a caveman wouldn't have had access to metal??

You know we do have cavemen nowadays ? they are called Liberals.....

 

[lonewolf]

You know we do have cavemen nowadays ? they are called Liberals.....

that's an offence to cavemen! anyway I thought all snowflakes and p.c. types called themselves liberals these days?

 

[drt4lfe]

that's an offence to cavemen! anyway I thought all snowflakes and p.c. types called themselves liberals these days?

I call them Zombies mostly.....and I did kinda take a shot at Cavemen, They at least hunted for food, made clothes and invented things, something liberals are not smart enough to do....without major help or whining....

 

[lonewolf]

I think we could learn a lot from cavemen.............and nothing from liberals, liberals will be the ones whining "its not fair" post SHTF.

 

[DrHenley]

that's an offence to cavemen! anyway I thought all snowflakes and p.c. types called themselves liberals these days?

So true! People that call themselves "liberals" nowadays have no friggin concept of what classical liberals believed.

 

[lonewolf]

we've got a political party here called the Lib/Dems or liberal democrats, pretty useless load of whining old has been's-lead by a useless old windbag.

 

[Silent Earth]

ah yes the brits,,,,,,well they let their government disarm them,,,,,they made their bed,,let them sleep in it

454 people have been shot in just one US city so far this year ( Chicago) You guys also made your beds.

 

[Silent Earth]

So true! People that call themselves "liberals" nowadays have no friggin concept of what classical liberals believed.

Our Liberal Democrats in the UK are neither Liberal nor Democratic, nor Patriotic, They are knife and gun ban crazy, Pro mass immigration, Pro EU (vomit) They believe the 2016 EU referendum result should be ignored, and accuse anyone of disagree with them as being small minded little Englander bigots

 

[user 6493]

454 people have been shot in just one US city so far this year ( Chicago) You guys also made your beds.

I sleep just fine,,some POS gets past the dog and then he has to DEAL WITH ME,,,,,,and I take no prisoners

 

[user 6493]

Our Liberal Democrats in the UK are neither Liberal nor Democratic, nor Patriotic, They are knife and gun ban crazy, Pro mass immigration, Pro EU (vomit) They believe the 2016 EU referendum result should be ignored, and accuse anyone of disagree with them as being small minded little Englander bigots

our politicians aren't much better,they are why we fight so hard to keep our 2nd amendment and support the NRA,without the fight in a short time we would be disarmed and at the mercy of the criminals ,they will still have guns and I/we the people will be left with not much more than a slingshot and a prayer

 

[Silent Earth]

I sleep just fine,,some POS gets past the dog and then he has to DEAL WITH ME,,,,,,and I take no prisoners

As do I my house is protected by terriers, crossbows and me