Why is all this going on?

[bkt]

Consider this an open thread to discuss why all this is happening.

Here's my take. The economies of virtually all nations have been propped up by quantitative easing (pumping money into the system) for years. GDPs aren't rising because everyone is earning more, spending more, and companies are thriving like mad. The truth is we have been on the decline since the dot-com bust. If you recall, shortly after that, we had 9/11. We wavered, started to recover, then tanked in 2008. Rinse. Repeat. Here we are.

So how do you reset the global economy - that is, essentially bring about severe (hyper?) inflation - and avoid having the bankers and politicians blamed? Enter: Coronavirus. Is it legit? Yes. Has it killed many people? Yes. Is it a pandemic of sorts? Yes. Is it serious? Hell no. No more so that the flu. But we have seen government, media, academia, and social media come together to tell us all how devastating it is. They're backpeddling now, and people are getting wise to the b.s. Next up: George Floyd's murder. Tragic? Certainly! Did anyone lose their **** when white guys died in a similar fashion? Nope. So again, media, government, academia, the NFS, NASCAR, social media, and many, MANY more fan the flames of open rebellion. It's a distraction, but an effective one.

And by now, the damage is done. Countless small businesses are defunct. Tens of millions are unemployed today who weren't eight weeks ago. The Federal Reserve and other central banks around the world are "bailing out" the little guy (mostly, the big guys, but you don't read about that). The infusion of cash can do only one thing: dilute the purchasing power of the currency.

This is a reasonably short video that covers what I think is the real reason behind all this. Granted, the people in it are selling something: services involving setting up savings in precious metals. But they do make some good points. You can watch it here.

They don't go into prepping very much or paying off debt which I think are extremely important. Let me know what you think. Also, let me know why you think all this nonsense is happening. Is it just unfortunate coincidence? Personally, I don't think so.

 

[havasu]

The more the libs give them, the more they want. I guarantee you that they will regret these decisions. Tossing statues, burning books, deleting TV programs, what's next?

 

[Meerkat]

I started at 30 minutes into video. My attention span is not so good rhese days.
Very telling ' even if nobody is listening ' how Wall Street and Bif Biz got 98% of 'stimulos' while Main Street got 1 to 2 %.
Japan may come out ok in long run unless China blows them away. Japan learn from the past,the West doesn't. Digital currancy would only speed up the NWO rule over people and their assets. My opinion of course .

 

[RabbitsAreDelicious]

Some say they want the economy to collapse so people worry more about survival and getting food then what the government is doing. While we are all going into survival mode they work on making it a one world government.....if that would even work. Which I doubt. That's just one rumor I read.

I'm more worried about the future immunization that will prevent this HORRIBLE pandemic. Depends how far you want to go down the rabbit hole.

Gods in control if it's my time it's my time.

 

[Morgan101]

Why is this going on?

Somebody or some group of somebodies is behind it. I don't know who, and I hate conspiracy theories, but somebody is behind it with every intention of destroying the country, and affecting the next election.

These agitators are being paid by somebody. ANTIFA and BLM are being funded by more than donations. I would expect George Soros, but I don't think he is alone. He has spent millions to affect every election he could. These groups are far to organized, and if I am not mistaken, the same people are showing up in very different places. Now that ANTIFA is categorized as a terrorist group maybe the FBI can investigate, and get to the bottom of it. Given their (the FBI) recent track record I'm not holding my breath.

We had all better wake up, and vote, or the entire country is lost. If we don't Seattle is what we will get.

 

[iknownothing]

Why is this going on?

Somebody or some group of somebodies is behind it. I don't know who, and I hate conspiracy theories, but somebody is behind it with every intention of destroying the country, and affecting the next election.

These agitators are being paid by somebody. ANTIFA and BLM are being funded by more than donations. I would expect George Soros, but I don't think he is alone. He has spent millions to affect every election he could. These groups are far to organized, and if I am not mistaken, the same people are showing up in very different places. Now that ANTIFA is categorized as a terrorist group maybe the FBI can investigate, and get to the bottom of it. Given their (the FBI) recent track record I'm not holding my breath.

We had all better wake up, and vote, or the entire country is lost. If we don't Seattle is what we will get.

I'm not sure voting is going to be enough. I agree the FBI is so-so. I've been believing that there's more than just Soros behind it all because of the organization of protests and rioting etc.

 

[Meerkat]

Why is this going on?

Somebody or some group of somebodies is behind it. I don't know who, and I hate conspiracy theories, but somebody is behind it with every intention of destroying the country, and affecting the next election.

These agitators are being paid by somebody. ANTIFA and BLM are being funded by more than donations. I would expect George Soros, but I don't think he is alone. He has spent millions to affect every election he could. These groups are far to organized, and if I am not mistaken, the same people are showing up in very different places. Now that ANTIFA is categorized as a terrorist group maybe the FBI can investigate, and get to the bottom of it. Given their (the FBI) recent track record I'm not holding my breath.

We had all better wake up, and vote, or the entire country is lost. If we don't Seattle is what we will get.

Vote? I don't know how much more " winning" I can take. Or how much more blame either. First I was 'arrested' because of a pandemic that is like no other since history of the world.Then my leaders stood by while ctiminals destroyed major cities and let loose violent radical criminals on us and made it dangerous to leave the house .
Only promise's kept were the to Wall Street and the rich, while Pelosi and libs got illegals demands .
Where are all those 'factory jobs that were going to come back? When did the illegals go back home and where are all those illegals and their kids now,anyone know? All of a sudden first time in 50 years they are quite,wonder why?
Who fought to give extra money to liberal cities so deadly ventalators could be used on the poor in public hospitals? What corporations won the contracts,not none coming back into the nation as pomised ,see any of the jobs who left come back yet?
But if I don't vote I'm a liberal or want one in office,well thats BS.

 

[bkt]

I'll vote in the right direction in November, but it's a bit difficult to trust an election result when so much of the electorate has had their heads dipped in the effluvia of media, academia, entertainment and politics for so long. Many people have been working overtime over many decades to eliminate critical thinking as a pass-time in this country. The result is people who feel rather than understand objective facts.

If you think voting will fix the issue, that's fine. But I'd respectfully ask you to define what the issue is: Why is this nonsense going on? What's the purpose? Is it to divide us more? Is it to cover for current events the media isn't reporting? Is it just another step in destroying our history and culture? Or is it all 100% legit and true and I'm just making something out of nothing?

 

[Sentry18]

It's easier to rig an election when such a small amount of voters turn out and the margins are thing. It's much harder when America wakes up to turns out in groves. Especially when they are overwhelming supporting one candidate or issue.

 

[Morgan101]

If you think voting will fix the issue, that's fine. But I'd respectfully ask you to define what the issue is:

I understand your frustration, and there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the aisle, but I would caution you to look at the alternative. Do you think Hilary Clinton would have been a better alternative? Do you think Joe Biden would be a better alternative? Sure, there are lots of times when we have to hold our nose when we vote, but I still believe in the Constitution and conservative values. If you don't participate you are conceding to the left.

To answer your questions from your previous post YES to all of the above. I would include the Hate Trump syndrome because he has reduced the power of the left, and they will do anything, including destroying the country, to get it back

 

[Amish Heart]

If you don't participate you are conceding to the left? I don't get that.
The left will say, if you don't participate you are conceding to the right.

How about if you don't participate, you just are not participating.

 

[SheepDog]

I think you need to define "conservative values".
I admit that Trump was a better choice than Clinton but is he a conservative?
Would a conservative have banned "bump stocks"? Would a conservative gone another 3 TRILLION dollars in debt to give some people a free ride for a month?
In my view the Libertarians are the only true conservatives left. Yes, they don't think the government should tell you what to put in your body but that is part of getting the government out of our businesses, our lives and our bank accounts. They believe that we have a right and should have the freedom to choose what we as individuals do to and for ourselves. They don't believe the United States should police the world. They believe force should never be used except in defense. Individual rights are more important than governmental power and that government is best when it is small.

 

[Amish Heart]

Trump even said he was not a conservative when he was running.

 

[bkt]

I think you need to define "conservative values".
I admit that Trump was a better choice than Clinton but is he a conservative?
Would a conservative have banned "bump stocks"? Would a conservative gone another 3 TRILLION dollars in debt to give some people a free ride for a month?
In my view the Libertarians are the only true conservatives left. Yes, they don't think the government should tell you what to put in your body but that is part of getting the government out of our businesses, our lives and our bank accounts. They believe that we have a right and should have the freedom to choose what we as individuals do to and for ourselves. They don't believe the United States should police the world. They believe force should never be used except in defense. Individual rights are more important than governmental power and that government is best when it is small.

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Well said, SheepDog, and you're completely right.

Another way to think about it is this. If the Founding Fathers were alive today, which political party would be most likely to suit them?

Would it be Democrats who want to denigrate religion, replace parents with government agencies, forbid parents from teaching their own kids, strip individuals of the right to own weapons, dictate our every move, eliminate national borders, punish the successful and reward the violent, the lawbreakers, the irresponsible and the lazy?

Would it be Republicans who engage in endless wars in countries that did not attack us, who have a propensity to be the world's policeman, who engage in outrageous foreign entanglement in social, political and economic affairs, and who pass heinous laws in the name of patriotism that collect and analyze Americans' communications?

Or would it be Libertarians who believe government should exist only to guard the rights of the individual, only engage in defensive wars that are actually declared by Congress (wouldn't that be a welcome change, eh?), and be very limited in scope and size?

 

[viking]

This whole business that's going on presently is one of the largest Hegelian Dialectic to be put on mankind, the PTB has a problem with people being free and so they create a problem, or in this case, a number of problems and then come up with a solution, that generally takes away peoples freedom but seems to solve the problems at hand, shut the whole world down by Covid 19, a black man wrongly killed by a cop, leading to rioting and disorder. All I know is that it is time to stay out of the cities and to be well prepared and it's sad to say this, but there are cycles throughout life, like plenty of low cost foods, survival supplies and low priced gold and silver (real money), thing is, a lot of those things are no longer available and if they are, they are generally out of the average persons ability to afford them. Thank God my wife and I saw things coming when were got married in 1974 and have been prepping to some degree ever since. We got out of the big cities very early on and we certainly have been blessed in doing so.

 

[LadyLocust]

I wish I was better at remembering quotes and who said them, but there was a quote from long ago when TVs first began entering homes that said something to the effect that people would someday be controlled by them (& in an evil way if I remember correctly.) I'd say whoever it was who said that was part genius. Media is arsenal and is being aimed and fired by professional marksmen.

 

[Morgan101]

IMHO you are never going to agree with everything a politician does. In the President's defense nominating both Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaugh were conservative, and have saved this country more than we will ever know. His tax reduction was conservative. His trade agreements you may not consider conservative but were much more favorable to the United States. His foreign policy has been much more conservative than his predecessors. Again JMHO, but I think he values the Constitution, which is something many of his predecessors did not do.

I am Libertarian as well. Have been for a very long time. I despise big government just as much as big business. It sickens me to see sheeple give up their personal liberties for idle promises. Trump may not be as conservative as you would like, but he is closer to my values than any recent Republican front runner, and he is light years better than the alternative.

 

[Morgan101]

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Well said, SheepDog, and you're completely right.

Another way to think about it is this. If the Founding Fathers were alive today, which political party would be most likely to suit them?

Would it be Democrats who want to denigrate religion, replace parents with government agencies, forbid parents from teaching their own kids, strip individuals of the right to own weapons, dictate our every move, eliminate national borders, punish the successful and reward the violent, the lawbreakers, the irresponsible and the lazy?

Would it be Republicans who engage in endless wars in countries that did not attack us, who have a propensity to be the world's policeman, who engage in outrageous foreign entanglement in social, political and economic affairs, and who pass heinous laws in the name of patriotism that collect and analyze Americans' communications?

Or would it be Libertarians who believe government should exist only to guard the rights of the individual, only engage in defensive wars that are actually declared by Congress (wouldn't that be a welcome change, eh?), and be very limited in scope and size?

I would remind you it wasn't Republicans who got us into WW1; WW2; Korea; or Viet Nam. Bush the elder was liberating Kuwait. Arguably we were attacked on 9/11, and Bush the younger was retaliating. I'm not saying any of it was right, but you can point the finger at both parties.

 

[bkt]

I would remind you it wasn't Republicans who got us into WW1; WW2; Korea; or Viet Nam. Bush the elder was liberating Kuwait. Arguably we were attacked on 9/11, and Bush the younger was retaliating. I'm not saying any of it was right, but you can point the finger at both parties.

Absolutely you can point the finger at both parties! It's interesting how the left vilified Bush 43 for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq - keeping a daily body count, if you recall. Obama was supposed to end those wars, close Gitmo and stop being the world's cop. Instead, he went into Syria, Somalia, Egypt and Libya - and removed their heads of state - while keeping us in Afghanistan and Iraq and kept Gitmo open. Bravo, Mr. Nobel Peace Prize!

What Bush 43 did do, to his eternal shame, is bring us the Patriot Act. That's huge.

Wouldn't it be marvelous if more people could see the deeds these people have done rather than just the letter after their names?