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Do you feel rumors will impact you and your group after a SHTF


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Silent Bob

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One day, we might get a new member who has a background in psychology and is willing to post, but I've noticed we really have not discussed psychological stresses that people will experience, so I began brushing up on my military pysch training courses and will add a few threads, hoping that their will be a deeper discussion by the community. As such, I'd like to touch on the topic that is near and dear to my heart...Rumors.

I have been in management in the military, government and civilian world, nothing is more destructive than rumors. They start off completely harmless, a simple gesture because either a person feels they must generate some news to keep the conversation going or simply they are passing the said rumor around because they like to sit by the water cooler or coffee area. Either way, is the rumor fact or fiction? What impact will it have on the message receiver? Will this rumor impact not only the morale of the receiver, but when spread, what impact will it have on a team or unit's ability to carry out the mission or react to events? Their is a litany of stories and events that could be addressed in a very long thread and in fact if you have one that you would like to share...please do so, I think it is very healthy to learn from each other. To outline that discussion, please address the event, the impact it had on person or persons, outcomes and how was the rumor corrected/stopped/and lesson learned.

On a personal note: I will add just two example. 1). I was very young in the military, a rumor started that we were going to have an operational exercise that would last a week. Everyone was told to rig out there gear, but a rumor started that we were to be housed in hotels/motels. So a group decided not to pack their field gear (sleeping bag, pad, etc). In fact, the NCO in charge failed to do an inspection on the group and when we got to our destination, we immediately went to the field. This not only impacted the group, but also impacted the unit to carry out the field exercise/mission. Needless to say, their were severe repercussion of this event and a failure by leadership. The impact was far reaching because we not only had to do more field exercises, but our unit was marked not mission ready by the Inspector General's office. 2) Is more recent, involving me personally, I was notified that I would be moving to another teaching position in the district. I was not upset with the move itself, being in the military and government teaches you flexibility. However, I was annoyed how leadership notified me by a simple fill-in-the-blank form letter that was left open in an unsealed envelope and people knew of my departing before I did (no offense to HR people, but professionalism is not a forte for some), and another teacher has been running her mouth that I am being assigned to a school (even though it is not true). By 4th period, all my students are now affected (tears and anger) by about 90% of the students, who do care about teachers who set high standards and set good/fair rules. Yes, when you get jumped by me, you get a good measure of drill instruction infusion cool-aid. Needless to say, I had a nice face to face with said teacher and told her that she was very unprofessional. This rumor has spread like fire and has impacted most of the 150 8th graders that I teach. These rumor examples impacted the way we conduct business and will when SHTF. So it is important that we verify our facts before communicating them to others.

As a rule if SHTF:

1. Leadership is the key, announce to all not to overreact to rumors.
2. Verify and check your facts before announcing them.
3. Always strengthen communications ties to all that are involved (Let them talk, let them vent).
4. Be alert to people who are exhibiting emotional stress or negative behaviors
5. Seek professional help or institute what we call psychological buddy care...never leave them alone, get some hot chow/hydration into them, remove the stimulus or message that is disturbing or creating the problem, that might be difficult when SHTF, but possibly sleep/rest will ultimately help because fatigue is a contributing factor to reacting negatively to these types of events.
6. Leadership again must be vigillant to correcting those who have a habit of spreading rumors. Rumors are destructive and left unchecked will ultimately impact even the most strong willed person.

As I said, I am not well versed, these are simply tools that I use each day. If anyone else would like to add, please do.
 
Good guidelines... No doubt rumors will abound, but most of my group is pretty practical. Still, I'm sure we'd have to deal with it on some level.
 
It is unfortunate that the majority will listen to rumors first, before even giving the person a chance to explain his or her actions or if it actually really happened at all. Even if they did, it still gives them a doubt in the back of their minds. . . .Don't be too quick to judge a person. . . it may just actually backfire.
 
In a SHTF situation though, they (rumors) will spawn from lack of information about what's going on outside of the local area.

It's one reason I want a HAM, to at least have some idea of what is going on elsewhere.
 
In a SHTF situation though, they (rumors) will spawn from lack of information about what's going on outside of the local area.

It's one reason I want a HAM, to at least have some idea of what is going on elsewhere.


Yes, for the most part the unknown, spreads doubt and with doubt their is a little loss of hope. Hope is what keeps us all human. I think the big challenge, regardless of how bad circumstances might get, we must be able to identify those that exhibit early stages of physiological stress that may manifest similar to PTSD issues seen from our returning veterans. The challenge will be in a SHTF is relying on local support, since most hospital and clinical support will not be in existence. In this case, laymen support will be the only thing available. I am going to follow-up later with a PTSD clinical support package, a friend of mine at USHS is searching for the best one out there for me. He has been involved with countless numbers of vets with clinical PTSD. He agreed with me over a phone call that we could expect high incidences of PTSD after the SHTF, including those that are well-prepared to do so.

As for communication, any communication would be essential, the challenge is to verify whether the source and information is authentic enough for you to pass on to your group. Each of us will need to weigh that when the time comes and decide whether it is good for the community or whether it would have dire consequences on the well being of the group.
 
One of our group is a former EMT, so hoping she can help educate us more. 3 more of us (myself included) have had lots of advanced first aid training (near EMT level, but not officially) and veterinary experience. (have to with all of our animals). But anything requiring even minor surgery, and we'd be rolling the dice.
 
One of our group is a former EMT, so hoping she can help educate us more. 3 more of us (myself included) have had lots of advanced first aid training (near EMT level, but not officially) and veterinary experience. (have to with all of our animals). But anything requiring even minor surgery, and we'd be rolling the dice.


I should have more stuff in the near future with training guides and treatment protocols. I was notified last week that I will be moving schools and I am being interviewed for High School-College Credit program position. So lots going on personally at the end of the year. After 6 June, I should have time to thumb through the attic, where most of my military texts/training resources are located. I simply am running out of space in the garage and the outside storage shed from all the crap that I've bought in the last 2 months. I know that I have a PTSD treatment protocol stuff on disc and PP slides. I am sure your EMT can go through the material and teach you the basic stuff.

We have a PhD who is on our team, nurse practitioner (new recruit) and two nurses...so I really don't have to spend much time worry about implementing that program. I'll make sure I respond to your thread, when I find the material though...just to help you out.

Regards
 
Excellent. Yeah, would be nice to get a nurse on the team, but really, it is an outgrowth of just being friends, who just happen to have good cross-trained skills for such a thing (i.e. her hubby is a cop). I'm more of a Jack of All Trades (Master of None) kind of guy...which is likely why I prep in the first place.
 
The psychological side of survival is always unpredictable. The apparently strong will crash, the weak will rise up, suburban commandos will shriek when they have to take life, any life. There's always strength in numbers, just examine mob mentality. I look forward to this section. Once the dust settles and all our plans go into affect, we now have to continue to live. To live with what we may have done.
 
Most definitely we'll be dealing with rumors. Unless there's "Official" sources of information, then people will be dealing with "Rumors" almost exclusively. Once they can deduce that the information is valid, then they can be sure of it, but until then, everything that we're reacting to is all speculation.

I think this is a key reason as to why we are preppers. We are subject to TONS of rumors via news, politicians, social media, etc that has us believing everything from teetering on the brink of war with other nations to our own Nation having guillotines for beheading us for organ harvest. We have to look at these things and see what is real, relevant, and also what is the likelihood. We know that natural disasters are real, there are plenty of folks who would argue that tyrannical governments are real, but there are other things that we prep for that may not be quite as likely. Those people often share their opinions with others and as that info is passed on, it goes from being a concern to being a "Reality".

This also hurts the reputation of info sources. You hear one thing and it doesn't happen, or you hear a second and find out it's mistruth... Next thing you know, people are looking at that source like the boy who cried wolf.

There's no escaping rumors, and there's no doubt in my mind that if things go sideways, we will be subject to floods of rumors, but it's up to YOU to decide what you buy into. Leadership is key, but as individuals, we have to think individually. I can see this being stressful, but hopefully, anyone that's prepping and is part of our community knows that the absolute #1 most important asset is your mind. Winning mindset and solid skills sets will give people the confidence to at least face the crisis, and hopefully, they will overcome and thrive without having lasting mental fallout. Hopefully.
 

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