Amazon is now going to be involved in health care

[DrPrepper1]

Anybody see where this could lead to?
Warren Buffett, Amazon, Chase and other companies looking into creating their own healthcare to cut cost.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireS...morgan-pick-gawande-lead-health-firm-56027382

 

[lonewolf]

I thought Amazon was a sales warehouse? what do they know about health care? its like buying a heart monitor from the corner newsagent.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I thought Amazon was a sales warehouse? what do they know about health care? its like buying a heart monitor from the corner newsagent.

Its just insurance. Anyone can sell insurance. We've seen that the government is too incompetent to be involved in health care.

 

[jontte]

sounds like our postal service here,you can order a mail man to cut grass for you and possibly in the near future they will
venture into home care too,so while some mail man is mowing your lawn the other will give you the pills of the day hope he/she gives you the right ones...

and sometimes might deliver some mail too...just wouldn't risk any of my older family memebers to their home care..

 

[lonewolf]

I don't trust modern medicines anyway too many side effects.

 

[Petoski]

sounds like our postal service here,you can order a mail man to cut grass for you and possibly in the near future they will
venture into home care too,so while some mail man is mowing your lawn the other will give you the pills of the day hope he/she gives you the right ones...

and sometimes might deliver some mail too...just wouldn't risk any of my older family memebers to their home care..

And now they don't deliver on Tuesdays at all and somehow don't manage to complete their rounds before 6pm. I remember the days the post was on the doorstep before breakfast and that was done by a guy on a bike.

 

[lonewolf]

we're lucky if we get any mail before 12noon and the couriers never get here before the afternoon.
some days we don't even get a mail service, we often say Wednesdays are a no postie day.

 

[Brent S]

I think a new approach to health care is badly needed. Why should a routine dr office visit be over 200.00? I would imagine they are thinking about televisits and mailing the drugs or emailing a script. It’s not a new idea but has never been done on a large scale yet. Anything to bring down costs and increase access by the poor is a win in my opinion.

 

[brandx]

It is a mess, and will always be a mess. I do not know of any health care system that is not. Sometimes I wonder if we all shouldn't just let nature just takes it course.

 

[brandx]

I think a new approach to health care is badly needed. Why should a routine dr office visit be over 200.00? I would imagine they are thinking about televisits and mailing the drugs or emailing a script. It’s not a new idea but has never been done on a large scale yet. Anything to bring down costs and increase access by the poor is a win in my opinion.

A lot of the cost of appointments is due to overhead. Office space, staff and not least of all malpractice insurance to name a few. I have not been to the doctor in 2 years.

 

[Brent S]

A lot of the cost of appointments is due to overhead. Office space, staff and not least of all malpractice insurance to name a few. I have not been to the doctor in 2 years.

I think there should be a waiver offered by drs and hospitals. If you sign away your right to sue then your bill is 30% less...
As far as having a physical once in a while, I strongly recommend it. Prevention and early detection is a lot cheaper than treatment later on. Even the walk in clinics usually offer some kind of basic physical pretty reasonably. I’m not worried about living into my 90’s or anything like that but want to feel good while I am around at least. Getting checked out occasionally is kind of like prepping, it’s smart.

 

[Mountain trapper]

How much of the cost of health care is driven up by illegals, "poor" and others who can't/won't pay their own way? The rest of us have to cover these cost with higer treatment costs and higer insurance premiums.

 

[brandx]

I think there should be a waiver offered by drs and hospitals. If you sign away your right to sue then your bill is 30% less...
As far as having a physical once in a while, I strongly recommend it. Prevention and early detection is a lot cheaper than treatment later on. Even the walk in clinics usually offer some kind of basic physical pretty reasonably. I’m not worried about living into my 90’s or anything like that but want to feel good while I am around at least. Getting checked out occasionally is kind of like prepping, it’s smart.

having medical experience is a plus, I can do my own physical, I have no conditions or medications. I went to a doctor about 2 yrs ago for a check up, what a waste of money. I can do a better physical than they can, asked questions that made no sense or didn't ask the right ones, no systems assessment. Nope, I can do better. All I need a MD or NP for right now is to order labs if I want them, which I don't need.

 

[brandx]

How much of the cost of health care is driven up by illegals, "poor" and others who can't/won't pay their own way? The rest of us have to cover these cost with higer treatment costs and higer insurance premiums.

Absolutely right, about 10% of those people take up 90% of the funds. Something like that.

 

[Gazrok]

Do I get seen quicker if I'm an Amazon Prime member?

 

[jontte]

you get a free colonoscopia

 

[Kevin L]

If Amazon starts using drones to deliver meds, maybe I can hack the computer to steal the opiates?

 

[user 7704]

I think a new approach to health care is badly needed. Why should a routine dr office visit be over 200.00? I would imagine they are thinking about televisits and mailing the drugs or emailing a script. It’s not a new idea but has never been done on a large scale yet. Anything to bring down costs and increase access by the poor is a win in my opinion.

There are more of the "no insurance" clinics popping up. They charge the actual cost for procedures. Not the $20 for a band aid route. This is free market in action. People are paying less than they would if turned into their insurance companies .

I've read about how surgeries are so much cheaper for patients because they cut the fluff . Patients seems to be loving it.

 

[brandx]

I never heard of these no insurance clinics, etc. Where are they? Not in rural areas I suppose?

 

[user 7704]

I never heard of these no insurance clinics, etc. Where are they? Not in rural areas I suppose?

There actually one in my hometown of Bowling Green KY. It's not a large city at all. I wish I could remember the article. It was actually a group of doctors fed up with the government paperwork that got the ball rolling.

 

[brandx]

There actually one in my hometown of Bowling Green KY. It's not a large city at all. I wish I could remember the article. It was actually a group of doctors fed up with the government paperwork that got the ball rolling.

I think I had a cousin go to college there.

 

[Doreena]

My health care encourages the use of Teledoc for routine stuff.


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[Brent S]

My health care encourages the use of Teledoc for routine stuff.


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I think those have great potential too. I read about an AI program that was able to diagnose problems better than most physicians. My wife had a large stone removed from her right kidney recently, the first round was 70,000. She is going in tomorrow to have some of the residual pieces removed now. Then they want to start the other kidney next. I call her my million dollar woman.... the prices for procedures are insane. Look at other countries prices, we are paying ten times more for care that is not as good in many cases.

 

[Doreena]

I think those have great potential too. I read about an AI program that was able to diagnose problems better than most physicians. My wife had a large stone removed from her right kidney recently, the first round was 70,000. She is going in tomorrow to have some of the residual pieces removed now. Then they want to start the other kidney next. I call her my million dollar woman.... the prices for procedures are insane. Look at other countries prices, we are paying ten times more for care that is not as good in many cases.

You are so right. I think the US was barely in the top 10 for quality of care. And about first in the most expensive.


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[DrHenley]

It is no big secret. U.S. Healthcare is outrageously expensive because of lawyers and freeloaders. As long as you still believe 2+2=4 you can figure it out. Simple math. If you believe 2+2=5 you'll believe anything the media tells you.

 

[Doreena]

It is no big secret. U.S. Healthcare is outrageously expensive because of lawyers and freeloaders. As long as you still believe 2+2=4 you can figure it out. Simple math. If you believe 2+2=5 you'll believe anything the media tells you.

It is not so simple, there are all the big pharma companies and the medical suppliers as well as the insurance companies that will do anything for maximum profit, regardless of the consequences.


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[Proud Prepper]

When we follow the money that’s involved with governments, food companies, Big Pharma, media and Healthcare operators, it’s easy to see why all five groups want to keep us fat and sick for profits.

 

[brandx]

You are so right. I think the US was barely in the top 10 for quality of care. And about first in the most expensive.


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In this country the user pays, in many others everyone pays. In that I mean that the person who is using the medical care is paying for it through insurance and otherwise, in many other countries the health care is paid by every tax payer. That is why their taxes was very high.

 

[Doreena]

In this country the user pays, in many others everyone pays. In that I mean that the person who is using the medical care is paying for it through insurance and otherwise, in many other countries the health care is paid by every tax payer. That is why their taxes was very high.

As I have said, I have family in Canada, and they are very happy with their system. My grandmother was treated so well at no cost to her as she progressed to assisted living and then a nursing home facility. On the other side of my family, my other grandmother had a stroke and required nursing home care, at a high cost. That facility always smelled like urine, the people were not cared for well...day and night. And Canada is not the best system, but far superior to what we have in the US. I would be willing to pay more now in taxes and not have to worry about going destitute later. I am afraid to retire because of the unknown factor of health care. I guess there is always a bullet, but I am essentially a coward, and if I were that bad off I might not be physically able to end my life.


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[DrHenley]

Doreena, when will you ever learn that taking more money out of the private sector and giving it to the government NEVER fixes any problems! I'm all for some real reform of the healthcare industry, but pouring more money into Washington is NOT A SOLUTION! It just feeds the beast and makes it ever bigger and hungrier.