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getting caught with full auto weapons was in the opening post in this thread,,,,,as I see it the door is wide open to talk about firearms
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getting caught with full auto weapons was in the opening post in this thread,,,,,as I see it the door is wide open to talk about firearms
No doubt that threads get off rail on most of the topics here. I do think though that this thread was about weapons to begin with.
Here's my take on this.
The original establishment plan was to get Hillary in office and start legislating arms and ammo companies out of business. By the end of her first term, any left would have been those with military contracts. Following that, by the end of the second term, guns would not be banned, but they would be nearly impossible to get, and the few companies left, would be forced to bow under or not get the government contracts keeping them in business. When the next crony came in, a full gun ban would simply be a matter of course.
Instead, with Trump's election, and strong NRA stance, as well as GOP support, they are in a bit of a dilemma. So, we're going to see plan B...the activation of sleeper nutjobs going on killing sprees. Not all will be such folks, some just inspired by them, but most will. Just look at the Vegas shooting. They really screwed the pooch with this one...initially, but somehow still reeled it back, and completely controlled the media on it. Its downright scary how well they did that. I suspect we'll see more of these until the main majority of Americans DEMAND a gun ban. And I feel it will be even sooner, maybe even end of the year, as more of these "incidents" happen. I SO want to be wrong on this. Please prove me wrong!
personally, if they get retro banned, it's PVC time....
Gazrok,
I'm not sure about how far Hillary would have have taken the gun control. She needs guns out there so 'her group' can steal those guns & use them in their crimes. Criminals usually don't maintain their guns, they just steal more.
There is another thing. They will have a tough time getting people to surrender their weapons. Not only will they have issue finding even the legally owned guns with serial numbers, but what about all those (both legal and illegal) without a serial number? It's really easy to finish an 80% lower (err, so I am told!). You buy barrels and parts for cash at a gun show. How in the world will they 'trace' those? And for a few $thousand, you can have 10's of thousands of rounds (either ready or to reload). That may sound like a lot to some, but $5k is cheap for important insurance. Heck, most people are spending 2 or 3 times that in 'health insurance' each year right now (directly or indirectly**).
And that doesn't touch the genuine 'need' that many, many people have for weapons. If you own a ranch, you know what I mean. I regularly have to shoot some pest around mine (possum, coon, among other liberals***...).
** Some say how their company pays their insurance, so it doesn't cost them anything. Bull. An employer has a 'cost' for each employee, doesn't matter if salary or benefits. If benefit costs go up, your salary will suffer that much. And some wonder why they haven't gotten anything in raises for years?
*** I don't kill conservative possums and raccoons. If they want to live in my woods doing their thing, I let them be. When they come to the homestead & stalk my chickens,raid the hives, go after calves (liberals stealing from working folks), that's when the liberal possums & coyotes & such die. You didn't think I was talking about people?
I'm not sure about how far Hillary would have have taken the gun control. She needs guns out there so 'her group' can steal those guns & use them in their crimes. Criminals usually don't maintain their guns, they just steal more.
There is another thing. They will have a tough time getting people to surrender their weapons. Not only will they have issue finding even the legally owned guns with serial numbers, but what about all those (both legal and illegal) without a serial number? It's really easy to finish an 80% lower (err, so I am told!). You buy barrels and parts for cash at a gun show. How in the world will they 'trace' those? And for a few $thousand, you can have 10's of thousands of rounds (either ready or to reload). That may sound like a lot to some, but $5k is cheap for important insurance. Heck, most people are spending 2 or 3 times that in 'health insurance' each year right now (directly or indirectly**).
And that doesn't touch the genuine 'need' that many, many people have for weapons. If you own a ranch, you know what I mean. I regularly have to shoot some pest around mine (possum, coon, among other liberals***...).
** Some say how their company pays their insurance, so it doesn't cost them anything. Bull. An employer has a 'cost' for each employee, doesn't matter if salary or benefits. If benefit costs go up, your salary will suffer that much. And some wonder why they haven't gotten anything in raises for years?
*** I don't kill conservative possums and raccoons. If they want to live in my woods doing their thing, I let them be. When they come to the homestead & stalk my chickens,raid the hives, go after calves (liberals stealing from working folks), that's when the liberal possums & coyotes & such die. You didn't think I was talking about people?
Here's the thing.
Since the manufacturers will feel the sting first, there will be a time where guns are still legal, but you simply won't be able to find or buy ammo for them.
After a couple years of this (not being able to find ammo, weapons, or supplies), you can bet a LOT of folks will trade in their guns for minor money, vs. having it as a paperweight.
Only those who squirreled away ammo will be a threat, and that's a HELL of a reduction, wouldn't you think? Certainly enough of a reduction to eliminate that check and balance of power.
Since the manufacturers will feel the sting first, there will be a time where guns are still legal, but you simply won't be able to find or buy ammo for them.
After a couple years of this (not being able to find ammo, weapons, or supplies), you can bet a LOT of folks will trade in their guns for minor money, vs. having it as a paperweight.
Only those who squirreled away ammo will be a threat, and that's a HELL of a reduction, wouldn't you think? Certainly enough of a reduction to eliminate that check and balance of power.
