Beans and Rice

[OldSchool]

Great video, thanks for posting

Easier than that is the jar sealing function on a food saver.

She does show use of a food saver and explains it’s functions.

Both methods are new to me.
I’m in the learning phase… I’m really liking the dry canning method. Some might say it’s overkill, but it’s a method I’d feel comfortable with for having long term dry food storage.

 

[Hardcalibres]

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That and it takes a lot of BTU’s that could be hard to come by when SHTF.

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No it doesn't.....

Some of the electric rice cookers I have are only 350W - you can run that from a smallish inverter. We cook plenty of rice when we are camping out in our camper trailer and running 100% on solar.

Rice cookers also allow you to cook other things like vegetables in with the rice.....so it achieves one pot simplicity.

Boiling up some rice is no more energy consuming than cooking dry pasta......or any other dried food like beans, pulses, etc

 

[Weedygarden]

Correct.

I use 7 Mil thick 5 gallon mylar bags. Each of those holds 20lbs of rice and I used four 2000cc O2 absorbers to achieve oxygen removal.

Those pack well and are space efficient.

For me, rice poked holes in mylar bags. Putting mylar bags in a second layer, such as a 5 gallon bucket, or a tight sealing bin are always good when using mylar.

 

[Hardcalibres]

For me, rice poked holes in mylar bags. Putting mylar bags in a second layer, such as a 5 gallon bucket, or a tight sealing bin are always good when using mylar.

The 7Mil bags are the thickest out in the market.....and are the same thickness Mountain House uses for their 30 year rated freeze dried products.

I store most of my long term food in metal office cupboards or in O Ring sealed military trunks.....to achieve vermin proofing.

I have some food in buckets.....but only those that came packed that way from the supplier. I am not as happy with the space efficiency of buckets, as I am with the cupboards and trunks.

 

[joel]

I doubt the freezer method really does kill bugs and their eggs.

After all, some of the most buggy places in Summer (like Northern Canada) are also frozen for more than half the year.

Clearly those bug eggs survive being frozen.

My father saved seeds from crops in the freezer & never lost a seed to bugs. We were planting seeds twenty years after his death that grew with no problem or bugs. So must be something to it.

 

[OldSchool]

I’ll ramble a bit a say the only problem I see with dry canning is the weight of the jars, if a person should have to go mobile. And… round containers are not the most space efficient method, as mentioned here.

 

[Hardcalibres]

I’ll ramble a bit a say the only problem I see with dry canning is the weight of the jars, if a person should have to go mobile. And… round containers are not the most space efficient method, as mentioned here.

.....high cost too if it takes that jar out of your system for twenty years or more.

......and I would worry about busting them in transit or during an earthquake if they are on shelves (which most people do to address the space issue).

The big advantage of jars is reuse-ability.....but that becomes moot when you store something in there for decades.

 

[Amish Heart]

Store them back in the jar box. That helps. I've got food savered in food saver bags, mylar bagged in tubs, and jars that are sealed, and number ten cans with plastic lids that has dried food in a gallon baggie in them. The best? Don't know. But I do like the jars.

 

[joel]

Store them back in the jar box. That helps. I've got food savered in food saver bags, mylar bagged in tubs, and jars that are sealed, and number ten cans with plastic lids that has dried food in a gallon baggie in them. The best? Don't know. But I do like the jars.

I agree, stacking the jars in case box keeps the jars clean & neat, stacking the oldest on top make usage easier.

 

[Weedygarden]

I started out with 5 gallon buckets. They are heavy and not the easiest to move. I do have some gamma seal lids to help with access, but moving all of those heavy buckets? No fun!
I have some #10 cans. I like how secure food is in those cans. I like how easy it is to move a can. A case of #10 cans (6 cans) is somewhat easier for me to move around than a 5 gallon bucket.
Jars are fragile and take up more space. I have two devices for removing oxygen from jars. I have one on my food saver and a vacuum sealer for jar lids. Stacking up cases of jars of food is more stable than stacking 5 gallon buckets.

 

[ClemKadiddlehopper]

Wrong thread

 

[OldSchool]

I don’t see anything as being in the wrong thread. I posted this in “prepping talk”

Wrong thread

It’s for talk about prepping in general and see beans and rice as a prime source of food preps.

 

[ClemKadiddlehopper]

I don’t see anything as being in the wrong thread. I posted this in “prepping talk”

It’s for talk about prepping in general and see beans and rice as a prime source of food preps.

Sorry for the confusion. I posted in the wrong
thread. The site was very glitchy for me, this morning.

 

[OldSchool]

Now I understand, thanks for clarifying.

This site has been abnormally glitchy lately.

 

[OldSchool]

I'm ready to get serious with adding beans and rice to my regular diet. And yes - it's largely due to cutting expenses.... and Dave Ramsey. But, also eating healthy.

I've seen Rice Robot advertised on TV... it's intriguing.
https://buyricerobot.com/

Why a cooker when stove top is fine? For the simplicity and not having to fine-tune the heat for cooking and just keeping warm. And, incentive to use it.

Probably won't go with the Rice Robot, though. Would rather have a clear glass top lid.
Aroma makes some good, simple and cheap cookers with glass lid. They get good reviews, but still shopping, reading reviews, watching videos. I research everything I buy.

 

[sonya123]

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-71...p.ds&msclkid=94aaf4dc02291adf268e93eca011efb1

not sure this link works but I have a rice cooker that looks just like that, I have had it for many years and it was really cheap. All you do is add rice ( measuring cup was included) and fill water to the like inside of it and push the button. It goes off and on warm when done
I HATE cooking rice in a pot!! This is SO much easier and turns out perfect rice every time

 

[DrHenley]

I have an Asian wife, so we use a rice cooker every day, sometimes multiple time a day. I like the simplicity of that one, but sometimes you needs something a bit more sophisticated.
https://www.amazon.com/Aroma-Housewares-UNCOOKED-Digital-ARC-914D/dp/B007WQ9YNE
This one is $10 more, but if you also want to steam food on a timer, and cook brown rice, you need a fancier rice cooker. Rice cookers can be very expensive when you get into the real fancy ones, but this one is not.

 

[sonya123]

LOL I try to stay away from fancy electronics....( I have a pot for steaming, and I don't like brown rice, so that would not be something I would need, yellow rice works fine in it too)

what type of Asian food does your wife cook? Maybe give me some new ideas

 

[joel]

With my new diet I do not eat that much beans & rice.
I love red beans & rice with bacon chips & chopped green onions on a cold day.
When I was in Nicaragua, we ate red beans & rice for breakfast, with coffee so strong it could have melt you metal spoon.
Here is a recipe:
Ingredients
1 pound (450g) red kidney beans
Kosher salt
1 tablespoon (15ml) vegetable oil or lard
1 pound (about 450g) cooked andouille sausage, cut into 1/2-inch disks
1 large onion, finely chopped (about 12 ounces; 340g)
1 green bell pepper, stemmed, seeded, and finely chopped (about 8 ounces; 225g)
4 ribs celery, finely chopped (about 8 ounces; 225g)
4 medium cloves garlic, minced
1/2 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon (3 to 15g) ground cayenne pepper (depending on how hot you like it)
1 teaspoon (about 4g) ground sage
Freshly ground black pepper
1 smoked ham hock (optional)
8 ounces (225g) pickled pork shoulder or rind (optional; see note)
4 sprigs fresh thyme
3 bay leaves
Hot sauce, such as Crystal or Frank's, to taste
Cider vinegar, to taste (optional; see note)
Cooked white rice, for serving
https://www.seriouseats.com/new-orl...icy, hearty, and,countries all over the world.

 

[Tim Horton]

If there is a ...correct... way to make beans and rice.. that isn't me...
I have a small 1 cup rice cooker I use 4-5 days a week.. Some cooked rice, equal part of Bushes Baked Beans, maybe a couple hot dogs, or strips of cooked bacon in bite size chunks, nuke and enjoy..

I do have a larger rice cooker, 3(?) cup, I make occasionally and make a batch of homemade ..Korean Catsup.. to go over it.. Also rice with half/half cream, cinnamon, Splenda is one of my favorite breakfasts..

 

[Weedygarden]

5) Oh yeah, dried beans are the worst kind of beans for Preppers to store.
They require way too much fuel energy. They are fully cooked in cans.

Yes, they do take energy to cook. The thing about canned beans is do they age well on the shelf? Dry beans do not require a particular temperature, such as above freezing.

Canned beans also take up more space. Compare 25 pounds of dry beans in a 5 gallon bucket versus how many flats of canned beans that equal 25 pounds of beans. The flats of canned beans take up much more space. I struggle with space for all of my food storage.

Something to consider doing is cooking beans now and dehydrating them or freeze drying them if you have a freeze dryer.

A woman I know told me that she soaks beans during the day, and cooks them in a slow cooker or crockpot overnight. They are ready to eat in the morning. I think slow cookers do not take as much energy as other forms of cooking, but of course, I could be wrong.

 

[Weedygarden]

I’m taking about making my own Rice-A-Roni

I have bought and cooked some of them, and some basically the same but off brand. They were good until I read the ingredients…

If we really knew what was in the prepared food, we might go back to home cooking again.

 

[DrHenley]

LOL I try to stay away from fancy electronics....( I have a pot for steaming, and I don't like brown rice, so that would not be something I would need, yellow rice works fine in it too)

what type of Asian food does your wife cook? Maybe give me some new ideas

Mostly noodles, LOL. All kinds of noodles, ramen noodles, bean noodles, rice noodles, sweet potato noodles, etc. If it is like soup (like ramen) I don't eat it, but dry noodles I will. Chicken feet, which I DO NOT EAT, PERIOD. She cooks home cooking types of things like Chinese meatloaf (uses ground pork, onions and tofu), Oxtail pot roast (pretty close to American pot roast but with Chinese spices). Fried rice, Hakka eggs (scrambled eggs cooked with bean paste.) She is Hakka, which is the second largest Chinese group in Taiwan behind the Taiwanese.

I use the rice cooker for steaming potatoes, pork buns, dumplings, etc. I even use it to "boil" eggs.

 

[Hardcalibres]

A woman I know told me that she soaks beans during the day, and cooks them in a slow cooker or crockpot overnight. They are ready to eat in the morning. I think slow cookers do not take as much energy as other forms of cooking, but of course, I could be wrong.

You are correct.

Most slow cooker recipes call for the food/water in the inner pot to be brought to the boil and then kept there for twenty minutes or so.........then for the inner pot to be put into the outer (insulating) container for the retained heat to keep cooking the food over the next several hours.

For even longer cooking, I have a Thermal cooker that runs off 12V DC during the slow cooking stage.....that can keep the contents up at cooking temperature indefinitely.

It draws about 1.5A @ 12V DC.........which is a tiny amount of power.

Thermal pot cooking is a good fit to survivalists.

Low energy, low odor and great for dehydrated and dried LTS foods.

Also works well with game meats.......slow cooked = tender meat.

 

[joel]

Yes, they do take energy to cook. The thing about canned beans is do they age well on the shelf? Dry beans do not require a particular temperature, such as above freezing.

Canned beans also take up more space. Compare 25 pounds of dry beans in a 5 gallon bucket versus how many flats of canned beans that equal 25 pounds of beans. The flats of canned beans take up much more space. I struggle with space for all of my food storage.

Something to consider doing is cooking beans now and dehydrating them or freeze drying them if you have a freeze dryer.

A woman I know told me that she soaks beans during the day, and cooks them in a slow cooker or crockpot overnight. They are ready to eat in the morning. I think slow cookers do not take as much energy as other forms of cooking, but of course, I could be wrong.

I am going to cook bacon & eggs, with coffee if I have it. The coals are hot why not put the soak beans on the fire to cook, the same way cowboys have done for two hundred years. I do not see a problem with time or fuel for beans or rice.

 

[Amish Heart]

Our chickens eat rice and beans. I have a big pot with a lid....I dump in 3 lbs of rice, 6 large mugs of water. Boil. Turn off the heat completely and lid it. That is three days of rice for them. They like it if I add beans and corn.
I like to cook beans and dehydrate them and store them that way. I call them fast beans. They are good for meals in a jar recipes.

 

[Weedygarden]

I like to cook beans and dehydrate them and store them that way. I call them fast beans. They are good for meals in a jar recipes.

At the LDS warehouse, they have pinto beans that have been cooked, dehydrated and powdered, instant refried beans. Just add hot water. Any of us could do that too.

 

[OldSchool]

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-7155584/elite-cuisine-6-cup-rice-cooker-with-glass-lid.jsp?skuid=79649315&ci_mcc=ci&utm_campaign=SMALL ELECTRICS&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=bing&CID=shopping20&utm_campaignid=401704869&utm_adgroupid=1239149852749485&gclid=94aaf4dc02291adf268e93eca011efb1&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=94aaf4dc02291adf268e93eca011efb1

not sure this link works but I have a rice cooker that looks just like that, I have had it for many years and it was really cheap. All you do is add rice ( measuring cup was included) and fill water to the like inside of it and push the button. It goes off and on warm when done
I HATE cooking rice in a pot!! This is SO much easier and turns out perfect rice every time

That's probably the same as this:


$20 from Amazon or Walmart.

 

[Tim Horton]

That's probably the same as this:


$20 from Amazon or Walmart.

This is the type of rice cooker I have 2 of.. A one cup size and a 4 cup size.. At one time when my kids were little we had custody of about a 10 or 12 cup rice cooker that belonged to the ..Adoptive Families.. group we belonged to at a time.. It worked great for pot luck dinners.. With the group having kids adopted from around the world we had some very interesting, diverse pot luck dinners.. It was fun.

Tip.. if you use hot water from an electric water kettle it cuts down cooking time significantly..

 

[Mountain trapper]

I'd like to try making my own version of beanie weenies and pork and beans. Then can it and keep some in the pantry.