that kinda sounds like the trip I made from CA to TX. I am jealous of all your space around both of your places, EasternerWesterner and Arctic. If I try real hard, I can spit all the way to my neighbors house on both sides. But, it is paid for and the taxes are paid years in advance too. No mortgages or credit. My BIL and BOL at the same time.
Considerations for Bug Out Locations
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Looking around the country at where homes are built today . These sites would not have been built upon 100 years ago because there is not any water sources at these home sites and are dependent on a government system of piping in water or furnishing electricity for a private well . I hope our members have covered their water needs not just for a few months but indefinitely . Piped in water and a electrical grid will both be something in history if a World War 3 transpires .
The neighbors thing doesn't worry me where we live. We're in the middle of the country with multiple homesteads around us. Every one of them are also preppers, but nobody talks about it. I have glimpsed a couple of the food and gun stores, and they're all doing okay... Maybe even better than us. I truly believe if SHTF, we would be our own little community. We've got a doctor, a farmer, an herbalist, a carpenter, a gun refinisher, a person with a sawmill, a beekeeper, several hunters, and EVERYONE is locked and loaded. When I was sick, they'd come and cut our grass or bring us produce from their gardens. Yet, at the same time, they're all fairly antisocial, which I appreciate.
Neighbors don't worry me much either which is why I am perfectly willing to get to know them.
I have had a couple of times where we have had an issue and within minutes, I had more neighbors there doing what they could to help than what I knew to do with. That is just living in the country.
Yes, we are all a bit anti-social but when help is truly needed we will drop whatever we are doing to help.
That being said though, we are close to the Mexican border here and drugs are unfortunately an issue, even in the countryside. More and more often that is where many of the runners and dealers like to hide out because since people do tend to mind their own business, it is easier to lay low . So, with that in mind, it always helps to know who exactly is around you.
It is reconnaissance 101.
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Ah, good point!
My place was originally off grid in the 70’s. Didn’t get electric until 90’s.
At least I have some old infrastructure to revert back to when needed.
Neighbors. Most of mine are worthless, computer engineers and a judge, The only worthwhile ones are a Sherrif and an old guy who owned nurseries. Knows a little about growing things.
After 50 years of being up here, I suspect the old guy has a better armament than the Sherrif and I combined.
One way in, a couple ways out on fire roads. I do feel secure here for about a year.
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I've got a drilled well, 650 feet deep, a spring fed pond and I generate my own power, no government needed here. We're pretty well covered for water on our property.
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I am not sure of how many of the extended family will bug out there. One sister's family will probably try to bug in where they are. But among those that probably will, we'll have two MDs, two nurses, a dentist, a carpenter, a preacher, a physical therapist, and an electrical engineer, among others. Nearly all can shoot. Most have driven tractors to bush hog, disk, plant, harrow and do road work. (we have four tractors). I have already been appointed chief cook and bottle wash 
I am on my own here, my wife understands most of all the functions of surviving but has little strength to fight with. All my neighbors live from paycheck to paycheck, most have no car, none have a water well, all but one are over 60 and I live directly on the main federal road going thru town. I have not done any work on the outside of the house except the new roof so it does not look inviting to looters or robbers. If anything bads starts, I will get enough plywood to close all windows and doors securely and only open from the inside or with special tools from outside. We have huge areas with lots of water and hunting or fishing and foraging nearby but Helena cannot take the pressure well. She is quickly tired even working in the garden. I am strong enough for both of us and she will only need to cook and wash post-SHTF. The rest is mine, protection, security and revenge...
The food in the garden will have to grow between the hedges and thorns to keep the thugs and thieves out.
The food in the garden will have to grow between the hedges and thorns to keep the thugs and thieves out.
That brings up another consideration. Part of the point of "prepping" is having a plan B, C, D that is developed while things are calm and it is easy to think rationally. Having a BOL and a group is only half the battle.
No plan survives the first attack.
Your group may have all the bases covered...on paper. But, then TSHTF. You are at your BIL waiting for the rest of your group of 30 to show up. You wait a day. Then two. Of your expected group, only 10 show up after a month. You may be missing the expected vet or the doctor, the mechanic, the dentist or some of your security members. Now what do you do?
We tend to assume that you just bug out and that is that.
Bugging out means you become a refugee for that period of travel.
Perhaps you will be prevented from traveling because your main mode of transport is inoperable despite your best preparations and being on foot, may not be practical for health or other reasons.
Perhaps widespread fires have broken out making travel impossible.
Perhaps several crucial bridges along the main as well as all alternate routes, have been blocked or destroyed by others looking to keep their communities safe.
Bugging out will not be a safe or easy journey. It might be the most dangerous part of the entire event. This is one of the things that JWR emphasizes.
It might be that your group has a bug out trigger such as an event or series of events that will cause everyone to know when it is the right time to leave. But, with events such as an EMP or Nuclear event, there would be little, if any, warning.
How have others handled planning for eventualities?
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I feel strongly that if I live until my parents are weak, it's my duty to care for them. We learn so much from grandparents and great grandparents. The elderly can benefit from youth, too.
A study showed that when they combined a preschool and nursing home somewhere in a Nordic country, the elderly were healthier and lived longer.
Anyway, I really like living in close proximity to some of my extended family and would really encourage others who are still looking to consider multi-generational/family commune style living.
In healthy families, nobody has your back quite like family!
A study showed that when they combined a preschool and nursing home somewhere in a Nordic country, the elderly were healthier and lived longer.
Anyway, I really like living in close proximity to some of my extended family and would really encourage others who are still looking to consider multi-generational/family commune style living.
In healthy families, nobody has your back quite like family!
We have predetermined meeting points.
Long range walkie talkies are in Faraday bags so we can communicate across homesteads if need be.
Getting home if we are traveling is a concern. We rarely travel outside of a day's walk, but I don't even know how to go about planning for along travel home.
Long range walkie talkies are in Faraday bags so we can communicate across homesteads if need be.
Getting home if we are traveling is a concern. We rarely travel outside of a day's walk, but I don't even know how to go about planning for along travel home.
Do you have go-bags?
Okay, so this will sound a little over the top for some but, when I travel overseas, I pack a go bag. In it, I have a multi-tool, rubber rain poncho, antibiotics, fishing hook, freeze dried food, documents, paracord, water filter all of the things you would bring on a long day hike to the mountains. It doesn't raise eyebrows (you do however have to put it in your checked luggage).
I always throw some silver coins in the bag as well as some old gold jewelry (an earring I lost the pair to or a broken chain).
When I get there, I buy an inexpensive hunting knife that is left behind on the return trip.
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That sounds like my scratch bag. I take it everywhere in a small camelback. 1 1/2 liters of water and all the things I need. The only problem is, if it ever gets stolen or "LOST" by the sometimes less trustworthy workers in the airport, the contents are worth over a thousand dollars in this little 5 lb. bag....
We do, but they need work. These are awesome ideas. Thank you!
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I have what I call a "grab and go bag". I take it everywhere I go. I change it out depending on season. For winter I have fire starter, extra gloves, wool hat, wool sweater, wool socks, snares, canned food (enough for 3 days), hatchet, extra knife, rope, metal cup to cook in or melt snow, extra .22 pistol and ammo and other miscellaneous items. I carry this bag on my tractor while I'm plowing my road too, 3 miles long. It's easy to get lost when the visibility is zero, get stuck in a snow drift or slide off the road and spend hours digging, or have to walk home.
For summer it's much lighter since I wouldn't need most of the winter stuff, but I do have some fishing gear, water filter and a few other things.
For summer it's much lighter since I wouldn't need most of the winter stuff, but I do have some fishing gear, water filter and a few other things.
Montana...jackpot!
Burnt over remote Canadian land may be on the market soon .
Remote would be great…but would the communist government still be able to take your guns and food is the question?
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If things do go that far south government will be tied up in the city's trying to maintain control. Probably won't have time or resources to venture out from their.
Let’s pray that is true. I do agree with you. A couple we watch on YT (wish they would move to Rumble) just bought a small island in Canada in the middle of nowhere.
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The way I see it is that we the people can make it a logistical nightmare for the government. Air water and land routes will be subject to attack thus keeping them at bay. Think French Resistance and the VC.
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True, but almost every government department and agency has been weaponizied across the country. They will still follow orders from their masters.
Release the grunt's!
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True but my plan is to keep them so busy in the city's that they won't have time or resources to venture out into the country.
They got about a quarter mile once they hit the fence to the house so I hope they are right with God cuz they will be meeting him shortly.
I agree. I figure i will have a good month heads up for the Alphabet Agencies.
AD will have 6 months
--- This video targets only a very small group of people ., Those that hear the call . This is the area my group reside and confirm the truthfulness of this video . My group is not in Arkhaven but are near their location and now have 7 living structures on our survival grounds though for various reasons not all 7 are occupied at this time . I only lack building a front Poarch and front door at this time on a log cabin that I constructed mostly by myself .
It is very beautiful country and balanced in resources. Not sure though, if 25 minutes to a Wal-Mart is far enough away.
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What is the actual distance to the Wal Mart? Lazy sheep may not want to make the hike.
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