Do You Believe We are a Nation of Immigrants?

[elkhound]

What if everything you’ve been told about the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship is a lie? Is this amendment really being twisted to justify mass illegal immigration? What was its original intent, and how does it impact the crisis we see today?In this video, Patriot Nurse breaks down the real history behind the 14th Amendment, how it was never meant to create an open border loophole, and how it's being weaponized in modern America. You won’t believe what’s been hidden from you!

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[Spikedriver]

We are a nation of descendants of immigrants, more than a nation of immigrants. Very few of us have a family history in the US that goes back more than 300 years. A great many can't trace back past the Civil War. I know I can't. My Norse and German ancestors all came in the 1860s and made their way to Iowa to farm that rich black dirt. And they all came through proper channels. I know it was a much simpler matter then compared to now, but they did it.

I don't get as wound up about immigration as many here do, but I do want to know who is coming into the US and why. I do think birthright citizenship should be repealed, through the proper procedure for repealing an amendment.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

My ancestors came from England and Scotland before the United States even existed.
We were still the colonies. The New World.

So no, my ancestors were not “immigrants “ any more than a Pennsylvania native who moves to Georgia is an immigrant.

 

[SoulSeeker]

Incineration. Brought to you by our sponsor Texas Gas and Oil! The Constitution clearly outlines birthright. We need to enforce the laws already on the books. The Democrats are trying, and doing well, to sidestep everything they don't like. Tell D.C. to read the laws before trying to say that's wrong.

 

[Morgan101]

I do think birthright citizenship should be repealed, through the proper procedure for repealing an amendment.

I agree with you completely, but therein lies the problem. There is no procedure to repeal an amendment. A new Amendment has to be passed which includes language that repeals the old Amendment, and the new Amendment has to be ratifiedby 2/3's of the states.

 

[Magus]

Flyover country will support it, it will be close!

 

[Lenny]

LEGAL immigrants are fine and it doesn't matter what color skin they have because we are all the HUMAN race, but illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, so they do not belong here!

There have been people over the years tell me I'm a racist and don't know what I'm talking about when I make the statement above to them, but I lived in all four states that border Mexico for a total of 30 years. I know what I'm talking about.

Racist. The lying liars on the left that always lie are lying about this to hide the absolute fact that THEY are the racists!

 

[lonewolf]

most Northern hemisphere countries were unlived in during the Ice age which ended 13,000 years ago, therefore all these countries were then colonised by what we would call immigrants or outsiders.

 

[Morgan101]

LEGAL immigrants are fine and it doesn't matter what color skin they have because we are all the HUMAN race, but illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, so they do not belong here!

There have been people over the years tell me I'm a racist and don't know what I'm talking about when I make the statement above to them, but I lived in all four states that border Mexico for a total of 30 years. I know what I'm talking about.

Racist. The lying liars on the left that always lie are lying about this to hide the absolute fact that THEY are the racists!

Race has nothing to do with it. You are exactly right. Entering the country illegally is a crime.

If you want to quote chapter and verse: Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C)

 

[lonewolf]

Race has nothing to do with it. You are exactly right. Entering the country illegally is a crime.

If you want to quote chapter and verse: Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C)

I wish someone would quote that to our Labour Prime Minister. they dont seem to be able to stop the illegals.

 

[DrHenley]

I wish someone would quote that to our Labour Prime Minister. they dont seem to be able to stop the illegals.

If they wanted to they could. They enjoy using illegals to subjugate the native population.

 

[Snowman]

I wish someone would quote that to our Labour Prime Minister. they dont seem to be able to stop the illegals.

You seem to Like to Voice Your opinion over here to US, why don't You do it over there to the PM...?!?

 

[lonewolf]

You seem to Like to Voice Your opinion over here to US, why don't You do it over there to the PM...?!?

because he's not listening, the Labour party do not like the British they are too busy playing on the world stage.
are you insinuating that the Homesteading forum is for Americans only??

 

[Swing]

You seem to Like to Voice Your opinion over here to US, why don't You do it over there to the PM...?!?

This is totally uncalled for. I was going to delete it, but the response below is the only reason I left it.

because he's not listening, the Labour party do not like the British they are too busy playing on the world stage.
are you insinuating that the Homesteading forum is for Americans only??

No, this is a good bit of members from USA but we have other countries are part of the H&CL family also.

I would hope the smart aleck comments such as the one Snowman made will be a short lapse of judgment in posting such things, and I hope others will not have the same lapse of judgement.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I for one enjoy reading posts from people in other countries. I may not always agree with them, any more than they probably dont always agree with me, but I still like to hear from them. To me, it's kind of a view of where we could be heading here in the US.

 

[Michele My Belle]

Beyond. The Indians took it from some red-haired Caucasian race, We took it from them, and now the Aztecs and Semites are trying to take it from us. It's a killing anvil for the strongest of the species.

This is a touchy one for me since an illegal alien crippled me and wrecked my life. I could rant for hours about how much I despise these aberrant human scum and I USED to be a Humanist! It comes down to race, guys, and white people just don't procreate like we used to!
There is a solution:
Love your country, love your race, dredge the Rio Grande to 50' deep and put another wall on the other side, fill the area between with cougars and the river with alligators, put toe-popper mines all over the place, build sniper towers every 500 yards and sell hunting licenses to shoot these invaders, I'm betting with all the angry psychotics around it would pay for the wall in a decade! Every day is buck season; no fair shooting the females or kids, they won't be back!

Can't you feel the racism and hate in every word? Good.

My friend in San Antonio was a golf instructor and builder of golf courses, until his neck was broken and he was paralyzed, by a drunk Mexican driving a car with no license and no insurance at a high rate of speed, in Texas. It's not a language barrier....it's a culture and low-value of human life barrier.

How many of us have been affected and their stories have never been told?!?

You have my sympathy and understanding...(I'm sure you know).

 

[Michele My Belle]

I for one enjoy reading posts from people in other countries. I may not always agree with them, any more than they probably dont always agree with me, but I still like to hear from them. To me, it's kind of a view of where we could be heading here in the US.

Yes...I agree...if there is no free speech...we'll never KNOW just HOW stupid people really are, regardless of the country.

They will not ALL adhere to this...

 

[Neb]

Yes...I agree...if there is no free speech...we'll never KNOW just HOW stupid people really are, regardless of the country.

They will not ALL adhere to this...

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Isn't that is a paraphrase of KJV proverbs?

Ben

 

[mml373]

Beyond. The Indians took it from some red-haired Caucasian race, We took it from them, and now the Aztecs and Semites are trying to take it from us. It's a killing anvil for the strongest of the species.

This is a touchy one for me since an illegal alien crippled me and wrecked my life. I could rant for hours about how much I despise these aberrant human scum and I USED to be a Humanist! It comes down to race, guys, and white people just don't procreate like we used to!
There is a solution:
Love your country, love your race, dredge the Rio Grande to 50' deep and put another wall on the other side, fill the area between with cougars and the river with alligators, put toe-popper mines all over the place, build sniper towers every 500 yards and sell hunting licenses to shoot these invaders, I'm betting with all the angry psychotics around it would pay for the wall in a decade! Every day is buck season; no fair shooting the females or kids, they won't be back!

Can't you feel the racism and hate in every word? Good.

You forgot the most important one: reproduce.

Dating these days is a sham. It's all about "what can so-and-so do for me" instead of the longer term effort of building functional families. At least that's my perception from when I was dating before meeting my wife, back in 2016. As a man, I felt like nothing was ever good enough. If a woman started with a guy who was 5'9", she'd ditch him and others till she ran into a guy who was 6'1". If he only made $20,000 a year (example), she'd ditch him till she met the guy who was 6'1" and made much more. Etc.

The fun and games ended as soon as I met a good Midwestern girl from parents who grew up on the farm and exposed her to a responsible upbringing. <haha>

 

[Spikedriver]

I agree with you completely, but therein lies the problem. There is no procedure to repeal an amendment. A new Amendment has to be passed which includes language that repeals the old Amendment, and the new Amendment has to be ratifiedby 2/3's of the states.

Yes, it's difficult for a reason. It's the only way I would ever acquiesce to gun control, if the 2nd amendment was repealed in that fashion. To me, any amendment to our constitution is set in stone and inviolable. That includes ones I don't agree with.

 

[DrHenley]

Yes, it's difficult for a reason. It's the only way I would ever acquiesce to gun control, if the 2nd amendment was repealed in that fashion. To me, any amendment to our constitution is set in stone and inviolable. That includes ones I don't agree with.

When they were debating the Bill of Rights, some were worried that they implied the rights were being granting by the government instead of just acknowledging God given rights.

And whatsoever the government giveth, it can be taken away.

It's the rights themselves that are set in stone, not the amendments acknowledging them.

 

[Magus]

You forgot the most important one: reproduce.

Dating these days is a sham. It's all about "what can so-and-so do for me" instead of the longer term effort of building functional families. At least that's my perception from when I was dating before meeting my wife, back in 2016. As a man, I felt like nothing was ever good enough. If a woman started with a guy who was 5'9", she'd ditch him and others till she ran into a guy who was 6'1". If he only made $20,000 a year (example), she'd ditch him till she met the guy who was 6'1" and made much more. Etc.

The fun and games ended as soon as I met a good Midwestern girl from parents who grew up on the farm and exposed her to a responsible upbringing. <haha>

I almost had a full blooded Chinese, but her daddy hated "Gwilos" or Whitey.

 

[Spikedriver]

When they were debating the Bill of Rights, some were worried that they implied the rights were being granting by the government instead of just acknowledging God given rights.

And whatsoever the government giveth, it can be taken away.

It's the rights themselves that are set in stone, not the amendments acknowledging them.

Yes they are, but it's semantics. They can be taken either by government malfeasance or by changing (repealing) amendments. The left would argue that birthright citizenship (14th amendment) is a God Given right. However we feel about an issue, if it's enshrined in the Constitution it cannot legally be changed by passage of new bills in Congress, only by ratification of a new amendment and then the new amendment is enshrined. That's the legal way.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

The 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868 and its purpose was to make the recently freed slaves citizens of the United States.

 

[Neb]

The 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868 and its purpose was to make the recently freed slaves citizens of the United States.

"
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
"
Ilegal err ILEGAL immigrants flaunt our law operating outside the jurisdiction of our laws .

Ben

 

[lonewolf]

I for one enjoy reading posts from people in other countries. I may not always agree with them, any more than they probably dont always agree with me, but I still like to hear from them. To me, it's kind of a view of where we could be heading here in the US.

normally we think the other way around over here, what happens in the US soon happens in the UK.
stupid people are the same whatever country they are in but there is a difference to prepping/survival due to the size of the 2 countries and some cultural differences.