Do you rely on GPS?

[lonewolf]

wife travelled with someone long distance who relied completely on GPS, to say they got lost several times is an understatement, so much so that the wife will never travel with that friend ever again.
as for road closures I probably know more road closures than any that appear on GPS systems and well in advance, knowing your area and regularly "patrolling" it gives better information than any GPS.
I will never ever rely on any technical system, in an emergency its bound to let me down.

 

[Brent S]

I had a surveyor come to the property here yesterday. He put up a central unit near his truck and then read signals from each corner of all the buildings and corners on the property. We were talking about accuracy and I guessed within inches. He said it’s within hundredths of an inch now. Impressive and beats the old line of site method by far.

 

[Illini Warrior]

Had not thought about that

never have got a strait answer in regard to planned & timed GPS coding and how they'd handle the existing civilian flights in-route to their destinations or emergency setdowns ....

only PAW type SHTF movie or TV show to situate an air flight was Jericho - can't imagine being on a commercial flight and being in that situation - no more GPS and/or ground control and probable plane systems outages - is there such a thing as a flight case and paper maps on any commercial flights anymore?

 

[DrHenley]

as for road closures I probably know more road closures than any that appear on GPS systems and well in advance, knowing your area and regularly "patrolling" it gives better information than any GPS.

bigpaul, advance knowledge can't tell you a wreck happened one minute ago up ahead of you and has blocked the road. Google maps can tell you that. Sitting right here in the US behind my computer I can tell you where every traffic jam in Exeter is RIGHT NOW by looking at Google maps.

 

[lonewolf]

bigpaul, advance knowledge can't tell you a wreck happened one minute ago up ahead of you and has blocked the road. Google maps can tell you that.

I dont use Google, many people over here dont trust it.
any mapping system dosent update for something that happens one minute ago. in a rural area like this there are alternative routes, most wrecks over here happen on the motorways anyway.

 

[Nomad13]

I use GPS, but I always research the route before I get on the road. Seeing what towns it brings me through, what road work they got going on and etc. And I always keep some paper maps with me for whatever states I'm traveling through just in case.

 

[lonewolf]

I mostly drive on back country roads, the worst thing I come across is cattle or sheep when they are moving them from one field to another and thats not very often,sometimes come across escaped sheep they are very good escape artists.

 

[DrHenley]

any mapping system dosent update for something that happens one minute ago.

Yes it does. Every person using Google Maps to navigate is sending real time information to Google about where they are, how fast they are going and what direction they are traveling. When traffic stops, Google Maps knows it immediately. It even shows when a line of cars stops at a stop light.

Any turn-by-turn navigation app does the same, whether it's Google, Apple, or Mapquest because they HAVE TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE in order to tell you when to turn.

 

[Brent S]

never have got a strait answer in regard to planned & timed GPS coding and how they'd handle the existing civilian flights in-route to their destinations or emergency setdowns ....

only PAW type SHTF movie or TV show to situate an air flight was Jericho - can't imagine being on a commercial flight and being in that situation - no more GPS and/or ground control and probable plane systems outages - is there such a thing as a flight case and paper maps on any commercial flights anymore?

Yes, required. And all pilots are expected to know how to chart the old ways. Not a skill they use much anymore but at least it’s still taught.

 

[Brent S]

I dont use Google, many people over here dont trust it.
any mapping system dosent update for something that happens one minute ago. in a rural area like this there are alternative routes, most wrecks over here happen on the motorways anyway.

What’s not to trust with google? They pretty much admit they are going to invade your device and use and sell all your information. The trade off is they give you really great apps for free. It’s all there in that 10 thousand word user agreement that no one ever reads…. Sad, but true.
on a side note I really enjoyed the movie Jexi. It’s about a made up computer AI operating system that takes over a guys life. Decent comedy and likely coming to a device near you one day….

 

[Brent S]

Yes it does. Every person using Google Maps to navigate is sending real time information to Google about where they are, how fast they are going and what direction they are traveling. When traffic stops, Google Maps knows it immediately. It even shows when a line of cars stops at a stop light.

Any turn-by-turn navigation app does the same, whether it's Google, Apple, or Mapquest because they HAVE TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE in order to tell you when to turn.

Handy for real time info on where the cops are looking to write speeding tickets

 

[BillMasen]

What’s not to trust with google? They pretty much admit they are going to invade your device and use and sell all your information. The trade off is they give you really great apps for free. It’s all there in that 10 thousand word user agreement that no one ever reads…. Sad, but true.
on a side note I really enjoyed the movie Jexi. It’s about a made up computer AI operating system that takes over a guys life. Decent comedy and likely coming to a device near you one day….

I get my free traffic info and updates from the Automobil Association app, I simply plot the route details ( start finish etc) and it gives me the route and info, THEN I TURN IT OFF, and its runing through a private window on my laptop so it cannot plant cookies or harvest info. I have NO google maps as there are plenty of free alternatives like Open Streetmap.org. We also have LIVE TRAFFIC news on 99% of UK FM radio stations which interupts whatever you are listening to in your car to give you up too the moment traffic news.

ANYTHING to avoid Google / Facebook / Twitter etc.

 

[DrHenley]

They have live traffic updates on the radio in Atlanta. But they can't tell you how to get around the traffic jams.

 

[Mountain trapper]

My son is a surveyor and uses all of the latest GPS stuff. He says his equipment is accurate to a fraction of an inch. One of the things he does is to locate the original section corners. Many of which date back to the original survey from the mid 1800's. He say its amazing how accurate the old surveys were. We'll get along just fine without GPS after SHTF.

 

[Brent S]

My son is a surveyor and uses all of the latest GPS stuff. He says his equipment is accurate to a fraction of an inch. One of the things he does is to locate the original section corners. Many of which date back to the original survey from the mid 1800's. He say its amazing how accurate the old surveys were. We'll get along just fine without GPS after SHTF.

Louis and Clark were amazingly accurate on their maps of the westbound journey. Primitive tools just meant the user had to be smarter.

 

[MNwr786]

One cloudy night last fall I was at my brothers place drinking and one of his friends drove off into the woods and got lost. I (plenty drunk and fully confident in my navigation abilities) said "I'll go get him, I know all those trails!" pulled out my phone, opened the map and got half way to his pin when my phone died. I found him thanks to his headlights, and after another beer, it didn't take us long to mistake east for south and end up in someones field a few miles away trying to explain what we were up to lol. Sure was fun and I definitely needed a reminder that there are more branches on the south side of the trees, but I'll take a compass over a battery powered device any day! Luckily, where I am in minnesota, magnetic north is actually geographic north (for now)!

 

[DrHenley]

My nephew was hunting in a national forest using his phone as compass, GPS, and flashlight. On the way out on a dark cloudy night, his phone died...

 

[user 6493]

What about after SHTF?

Please move your GPS posts from vaccine thread to this one.

you can not count on the GPS always to be right,,,,, mine at times I think was programmed by a monkey

 

[Illini Warrior]

interesting bit of news out today concerning the ongoing give & take - involves GPS spoofing ability >>>>

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/dozens-of-nato-warship-positions-near-russia-being-faked-but-why/

 

[Brent S]

I read that about when Putin travels the gps is warped anywhere near him. Brilliant way to confuse satellite guided bombs, but more likely just showing off their technical prowess. No sane government is going to launch a smart bomb at any world leader and not expect it to start ww3. Hopefully anyways….

 

[MOS0231]

It depends on the constellation you are hitting, signal strength, for accuracy.

There is the civilian side of GPS and then there is the military side. The military side is far more accurate.
My wife, an Air NG officer and member of SpaceForce can give an entire dissertation on the subject, off the top of her head.

 

[Dani]

And this right here is why you should NEVER trust using your phone completely. . .

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/google-maps-sends-nc-father-2-plunging-his/