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  • https://www.doomandbloom.net/a-new-pneumonia/ >>> Dr Bones is concerned about a new Chinese breakout - you should be also ...

  • Health authorities in China are reporting 60 cases or more of a previously unknown viral pneumonia that has put dozens in the hospital. Officials note that victims exhibit fever up to 105 degrees Fahrenheit, difficulty breathing, and abnormal findings on chest X-rays
  • Nothing gets my attention like a mysterious, probably viral, pneumonia showing up in some foreign land. In the last decade or so, killers like Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) have entered the scene. The current infection doesn’t seem to be either of these, and lab studies have already eliminated influenza, avian flu, most bacteria, and other possible culprits. A number of victims were found to have attended a seafood market in the area.
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Chinese tourists over here don't seem to get any further than London.

maybe China has an agreement with your muslims to share everything 50-50 >>>> over here they have a jail full arrested for espionage of military facilities - 5 arrested in the last 45 days - this not including the out & out dedicated undercover spies like Sen Warren's long time limo driver ...
 
Pandemics are tough to prep for. If, or when a deadly one starts spreading in the cities it’s time to stop going out anywhere. That’s where being as self sufficient as possible comes in. Avoiding contact with people is the only way to be certain of not getting it.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/health/wuhan-coronavirus-first-us-case-cdc-bn/index.html

CDC confirms first US case of Wuhan coronavirus

The United States has its first confirmed case of a new virus that appeared in Wuhan, China, last month, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday. The virus has already sickened hundreds and killed six people in Asia.
The male patient is in isolation at Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett, Washington. He is a resident of Snohomish County in Washington.

 
so you got your first one, how many have possibly been infected??

I'm always worried when it spreads,where is patient zero in the new region? what worries me even more is that is has done so,China is pretty good in setting perimeters around things in their country to contaign ****...and it has done so now..
 
This isn’t a good thing by any means, but luckily the death rate is low. I read 4 with 200 infected. Those aren’t terrible odds. Ebola has a terrible death rate, luckily this isn’t nearly so deadly. I will say though, it is only a matter of time before a really bad new virus does pop up. This virus is bad enough though that you definitely want to practice good hygiene and protocol. Wash hands often, don’t touch your face, mouth or nose, avoid heavily populated places, etc.
 
Just saw new numbers, 300 infected and 6 dead. Still not a high enough rate to warrant locking down on your property and being in isolation. At the same time it’s not a fun thing to get. Wash your hands often....
 
Problem is it appears to be air born and does not required touching the infected person or infected fluids, like Ebola. Current death rate is 2 percent, per Brent numbers but wait until it expands to those less immune. Not a good situation. Close the border to all that have visited infected area. There are reports of infected persons in Japan, S. Korea and I think Australia. Better too much prevention, than a global pandemic.
 
With as interconnected as the world is today I don’t think it’s possible to effectively stop something from spreading anymore. We have created the perfect scenario for a virus. In nature herds get thinned out when needed. I don’t think this virus will be anything like 1917 but agree there will be pain and suffering. Even if this bug doesn’t kill with high rates it could still strain our hospitals to the breaking point,so it’s not a good thing by any means.
 
that hospital stuff scares me at the moment as we alredy are quite thinnly manned ( thx to management ) here,if we get this new bug I don't have high hopes that our doc's are up and knowing what it might be,it's a waiting game for the moment.
 
if we get this new bug I don't have high hopes that our doc's are up and knowing what it might be,it's a waiting game for the moment.
Start Googling and make yourself the "specialist" for your own hospital Jontte. Get the info, write a paper and hang it up in the break room for your colleagues to read when they take a eating or smoke break. Know your enemy!!! Inform your friends!!! Too much knowledge is about like too much money...GP
 
I saw a news article about a potential case in TX from a university student who had studied abroad in China. And they are now thinking it is transmitted between humans more easily than they originally thought. And it might have come from snakes.
 
Unusual new popup of an old virus. We have 20,000 deaths in Germany yearly from the "normal" viruses...45 million chinese are now "quarantined" by a forced stop of all public transportation. No-one in, no-one out theory. Ok for them, but what about the rest of the world, still only one person needed in NYC or LA and it all goes to **** again. I broke out the MMS and made another pre-emptive-anti-virus mixture for me and the wife...GP
 
Start Googling and make yourself the "specialist" for your own hospital Jontte. Get the info, write a paper and hang it up in the break room for your colleagues to read when they take a eating or smoke break. Know your enemy!!! Inform your friends!!! Too much knowledge is about like too much money...GP

we already have a partial lockdown of the ER-ward I work in at the moment, just regular A- and B-influensa and norovirus,so all are takeing the sanitazion stuff seriously,perhaps it's wrong from me but I keep regular updates about this coronavirus and it seems to scare them...a little scared nurse is better than an overconfident one..
 
I wonder if things like corona virus make stock in companies like REI or Northface do better business because of people buying boots, hiking gear, maybe moving up that hike in Wyoming? I, myself, would consider it. There seem a lot of worst places to wait out the apocalypse then in some spring-fed, high-altitude montane field that is so remote that it's very difficult to get to.
 
I wonder if things like corona virus make stock in companies like REI or Northface do better business
Every time Bill Gates sneezes, the price of gasoline rises in Germany. ANYTHING will make the Stockmarkets move, up or down. They just wait for Trump, Brexit, Syria, China or such to open their mouth or move a few soldiers for a vacation and the world makes money on it. Don't go with the flow, (only dead fish move with the current). Make your observations and do the prepping before the BS starts, just like the others here. Keep your bucks for more important things...GP
 
Latest news on 2019-nCoV

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Coronavirus
Unless you just got back from a trip to Mars, you probably know that there’s an epidemic going on in China. It appears to be viral in nature; viruses are tiny, much smaller than bacteria, and barely meet the definition of a living organism as it must enter the cells of a host to activate and reproduce.

Once it’s hijacked the cell’s machinery, however, it produces a lot of little viruses that enter the bloodstream, often killing the host cell in the process. The physical symptoms caused depend on the type of virus and the cells that are infected.

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SARS, MERS, and now 2019-nCoV are epidemic coronaviruses
First reported December 8th in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people in Hubei province, the new virus appears to belong to the coronavirus family. Coronaviridae is a family of viruses with little projections that might remind you of a crown or the corona of the sun. The genetic material is not DNA, but RNA or ribonucleic acid.

RNA viruses generally have very high mutation rates compared to DNA viruses, which leaves the possibility of genetic mistakes more frequent. When I say “mistakes”, I mean an imperfect copy of the RNA genetic material as it reproduces. In most cases, not much happens. In some cases, it may hinder the virus but just as or more often, mutations improve the ability of the virus to succeed in some way, such as letting it multiply faster or making it harder to kill. Each person who becomes a host has the potential to become patient zero for a new, improved virus.

Several coronavirus strains have made the news this century: a couple of examples are Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in Asia and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) in, well, the middle east, although many cases were workers of Korean descent.

SARS killed about 800 out of 8000 victims with the disease over 6 months or so. Untreated MERS infected thousands with a 35-45% death rate. So far, the new coronavirus, named 2019-nCoV, has sickened more than 6000 and killed 132 in 6 weeks, if you can believe statistics from the Chinese government. That’s a little more than a two per cent death rate.

(Note: My first article on this new coronavirus occurred when there were only 200 cases and 9 deaths. There are some who believe the number of cases and, perhaps, deaths, are much higher than reported)

Two per cent doesn’t seem like much, but the death rate from the Spanish Flu 100 years ago was also a little more than two per cent. That virus went on to infect a third of the world’s population and cause 50-100 million deaths.

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Chinese bats may be a coronavirus reservoir
You may have heard that 2019-nCoV was first found in some of the live markets common in China. Some mutation may have appeared which allowed a bat, a common living source of coronavirus, to infect other animals and then humans. That’s a big step, but it doesn’t mean that same mutation will make it easy to pass from human to human. What is known, however, is that it can happen.

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That depends on the R Naught number. The what? The R Naught. R with a zero down where a comma would be. “R0” tells you the average number of people in a previously infection-free area who will catch a disease from one contagious victim. If the number is 1 or less, the virus will likely peter out, but the Spanish flu infected 2-3 people from each contagious victim. So did Ebola, and measles was a lot more contagious, with numbers between 6-18. This virus in China’s R0 numbers are about estimated by Chinese authorities to be 1.5 or so, but perhaps higher.

In most cases, people exhibit mild symptoms 1-14 days after exposure, similar to a cold or mild flu, and get better after a week or so. About 1 in 5, however, get very sick, including pneumonia, breathing difficulty, and respiratory failure. There appears to be evidence that people can be contagious before they experience symptoms, not unusual for a viral infection.

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