Don’t attack someone else’s SHTF plan as if you’re psychic
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Good article.
Good article, we all have our reasons!
not really, sounds a bit like what we hear from the sheeple all the time: "it'll never happen" or if it does "it wont be that bad", i'm fed up with having to deal with "hobby" preppers who think SHTF means its all over in a few days or a week at most then its "business as usual".
Well I am grateful to finally meet someone like bigpaul who is willing to share his first-hand experience at surviving beyond the end of the world. I'm sure I am not alone in eagerly waiting to hear stories about how he managed to do it and get back in time to share it with us.
I like the name by the way. Is there some insecurity lurking there by chance?
For those of us without a crystal ball in our bug-out bags, graywolf makes some pretty good points. I keep a goodly supply of high resolution USGS topo maps of the region around me and have trained for years in the use of map and compass. That said, as long as the satellites are up there giving me accurate data, I'll use the GPS when I can because it gives me an edge over someone who doesn't have it.
While we can't know (most of us, anyway) exactly what might happen in a total collapse, we can look at history where we find that eventually good people band together and chase the bad people away. One variable that can be observed historically is the amount of time and human suffering that will take place before things begin to settle. From my history studies, I would say that depends on how total the collapse and how effectively the government is disabled alongside the private citizen. This can be guessed at, but I doubt any of us has more than a wild guess.
Some estimates put the number of preppers around 3 percent here in the US. From casual conversations, I feel that is a generous estimate. This means that between your home and the next home where preparedness is practiced, are 33 homes where nothing is being done. As I drive through the D/FW Metro-Mess from time to time, I have to wonder if any of the vast sea of apartments and homes contains a week's worth of food and water. Things are better here in rural areas, but you still have to use phrases like "emergency preparedness" in order for people to not check you for a tin hat. It makes one feel queasy to think of how many mouths there will be to feed, and yet, these are my neighbors and as needy as they might one day be, they are my best chance of success. For me, success isn't just continuing to breed and breathe. I want to be around to see things rebuilt the way they were intended to be.
I like the name by the way. Is there some insecurity lurking there by chance?
For those of us without a crystal ball in our bug-out bags, graywolf makes some pretty good points. I keep a goodly supply of high resolution USGS topo maps of the region around me and have trained for years in the use of map and compass. That said, as long as the satellites are up there giving me accurate data, I'll use the GPS when I can because it gives me an edge over someone who doesn't have it.
While we can't know (most of us, anyway) exactly what might happen in a total collapse, we can look at history where we find that eventually good people band together and chase the bad people away. One variable that can be observed historically is the amount of time and human suffering that will take place before things begin to settle. From my history studies, I would say that depends on how total the collapse and how effectively the government is disabled alongside the private citizen. This can be guessed at, but I doubt any of us has more than a wild guess.
Some estimates put the number of preppers around 3 percent here in the US. From casual conversations, I feel that is a generous estimate. This means that between your home and the next home where preparedness is practiced, are 33 homes where nothing is being done. As I drive through the D/FW Metro-Mess from time to time, I have to wonder if any of the vast sea of apartments and homes contains a week's worth of food and water. Things are better here in rural areas, but you still have to use phrases like "emergency preparedness" in order for people to not check you for a tin hat. It makes one feel queasy to think of how many mouths there will be to feed, and yet, these are my neighbors and as needy as they might one day be, they are my best chance of success. For me, success isn't just continuing to breed and breathe. I want to be around to see things rebuilt the way they were intended to be.
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I don't care what others think about my plans,I will do what I THINK IS BEST FOR ME,,,,it is my choice,,,,,, now I will listen to what others will do and if,,,,if I think it is better I will alter my plans
That's where I'm at, I'm not closed minded also still open to learning and have learned new ways of doing things. By in large what we already set up works for us that may not be suitable to someone in the South or even someone 5 miles away. I'm under no illusion my way is the best way it's not... it works.
My take is not if your prepping for the right scenario or not. I'm just pleased that you are prepping for something. Could the number of preppers really be as low as 3%? Are the vast majority of people really that ignorant? Do most people in this country really believe that nothing bad like a storm or earthquake could ever disrupt their lives? It just seems so basic to me to ensure I have water to drink and food to eat, and multiple ways to get more of each. I honestly think so many are brain dead with this generation....
I'm not prepping either. I fully believe that the government is taking care of me.
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I'm with grayghost, I don't really care what other people think,of how I prepare, I have read and taken advice from many and designed my plan to our needs, that is the important thing, what works for one might not work for another. I also think your mindset and personality plays a part in how and why you prepare.
I think there's an awful lot of people who have extra food in the cupboards and spare fuel in a can, an old camping stove and lantern kicking about 'just in case' than most folk believe. They may not have the prepper label but nevertheless they are prepared.
I think there's an awful lot of people who have extra food in the cupboards and spare fuel in a can, an old camping stove and lantern kicking about 'just in case' than most folk believe. They may not have the prepper label but nevertheless they are prepared.
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preppers, off gridders, back to the landers and others make up less than 1% of the UK population, most people are too busy on the "hamster wheel" of life(as step daughter calls it) to even give being prepared a passing thought.
by the way Firewallsrus, "big paul" is my biker name, one I have been known as for the last nearly 40 years.
by the way Firewallsrus, "big paul" is my biker name, one I have been known as for the last nearly 40 years.
Cool. My biker name is Loner, but when I was secretary of a MC, it was Domino because nobody seemed eager to park to the left of my Harley for some reason.
By the way. I learn alot of stuff from you guys. It also inspires me to focus( I'm the original ADD poster child) on my own preps, so here's a tip of the hat to yall.( sorry, no check) if anyone asks am I am so not gonna admit that it wasn't my idea.
my attitude is Lone Wolf.
Common BigPaul... Your a Teddy bear....
Ah I'm an expert on all things SHTF, let me explain everything that you're doing wrong (Just kidding!) yeah that bugs me too, everyone situation is different, a lot of people are prepping for different things. It doesn't help anyone if you cut someone down. good article!
No doubt, what is right for one isn’t a good fit for all.
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