EMP Attack?

[Joshua_Alderson]

What happens if an EMP bomb explodes in space, would it cause the whole world to go off grid?

 

[Psalm7]

No .

 

[Psalm7]

I would be more concerned with terrorist setting off a dirty bomb or a small nuclear device causing local damage and contamination.
Nuclear is not near the top of My list of stuff to prepare for . But it could happen .

 

[Silent Earth]

No, generally an emp device as planned to be used is only effective at certain altitudes, to low and you only knock out a localised area bout the size of a city or small state, to high and the energy dissipates. Many writers suggest three of four possibly five to knock out ALL electrics / electronics is needed to take out CONUS.

Small improvised none fissile dirty bombs are by far the most likely source of attack compared to military EMP cos if Country A deployed EMP enhanced devices the other side would retaliate in kind.

 

[Silent Earth]

And of course the EMP would have no effect on the USN Boomers or USAF Bunker stored nukes so who ever fired on the US / UK would only get to gloat for about 4 minutes.

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

Ouhh, thanks guys.. you guys have been a great help ....

 

[Brent S]

I think the grid going down from hackers messing with the computers is more likely than from emp.

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

I think the grid going down from hackers messing with the computers is more likely than from emp.

Got a point there bro!

 

[DrHenley]

N Korea doesn't have electricity in the vast majority of the country anyhow, so the little turd in Pyongyang may see using HEMP bombs as a sort of asymmetrical warfare.

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

Hmm... I heard their Nuclear Arseanal is HUGE.

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[DrHenley]

Yes, but if the little turd started a war using any other kind of nuclear weapons, N Korea would cease to exist, and he knows that. And without his country, he is nothing. With a high altitude blast he can say they were "just testing" and didn't mean to harm anybody. Especially if N Korea is within the affected area of the EMP.

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

Yes, but if the little turd started a war using any other kind of nuclear weapons, N Korea would cease to exist, and he knows that. And without his country, he is nothing. With a high altitude blast he can say they were "just testing" and didn't mean to harm anybody. Especially if N Korea is within the affected area of the EMP.

I see.. well, it might happen..

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[Maverick]

This was also brought up in other threads.

At the right altitude over the US effective range for an EMP affect, the US is going to see that as an direct attacked, NORAD would already be mapping the trajectory thus there be no mistake on the intentions. The little-fat man wouldn't even get the chance making the claim 'we didn't mean to, it was a test' I believe the Tridents would have got the code and launched before the security council at the UN known what had happen including us laymen.

Don't worry about it, just prep for the thing that don't require electricity (that would cover most emergencies anyway) kindly an extended camping trip without the fun and luxuries.

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

Okay! point taken noted. Hope little rocket man don't press the red button

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[drt4lfe]

Hmm... I heard their Nuclear Arseanal is HUGE.

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they said the same thing about WMD's in Iraq........he said, she said......

 

[Joshua_Alderson]

Got the point there.. well, its confusing man things that are happening out there

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[toexist]

It's kinda impressive that North Koreans have lived in SHTF like conditions for as long as they have. I wonder what the hell they do all day when they arent working in labor camps.

MEANWHILE IN SOUTH KOREA.....

 

[jontte]

it must be hard to threat a people with shtf,we'll send you back to stone age,when they for most part already live there....
but those ladies look nice

 

[Silent Earth]

Now if you want to worry about ANOTHER type of EMP event many people are concerned and prepping for another Carrington Event.

 

[Psalm7]

I know its not a common idea in the Prepper Community but We could be in a major SHTF situation like Civil unrest , Civil War , Terrorist, Plague, Government take over , and others where the power is on and computers , phones work . People commuting to work and stores open . Its not all primitive living and bugging out till the clothes rott off your back .

 

[Maverick]

I know its not a common idea in the Prepper Community but We could be in a major SHTF situation like Civil unrest , Civil War , Terrorist, Plague, Government take over , and others where the power is on and computers , phones work . People commuting to work and stores open . Its not all primitive living and bugging out till the clothes rott off your back .

Certainly not primitive unless one is totally inept and alone but then again, if that's the case they probably wouldn't even make it to the primitive stage.

 

[Silent Earth]

I am a prepper [precisely because I dontb want to go back to victorian or cave man living, Prepping gives us the ability and capability of continuing ALMOST as normal as the world goes to California in a hand basket.

 

[DrHenley]

This was also brought up in other threads.

At the right altitude over the US effective range for an EMP affect, the US is going to see that as an direct attacked,

Sorry, I mean to specify an attack on S Korea or Japan not CONUS, but that got edited out somehow. Which is why I said "especially if N Korea is within the affected area." There isn't much to knock out in N Korea, so he could say "see, we were hit too" but in reality N Koreans would hardly notice an EMP.

 

[Maverick]

Sorry, I mean to specify an attack on S Korea or Japan not CONUS, but that got edited out somehow. Which is why I said "especially if N Korea is within the affected area." There isn't much to knock out in N Korea, so he could say "see, we were hit too" but in reality N Koreans would hardly notice an EMP.

Your right, NK wouldn't even notice a loss of power for the most part. I read that NK power is off during the night and set schedules during the day in places that have power, majority of homes don't even have power?

 

[Maverick]

Sorry, I mean to specify an attack on S Korea or Japan not CONUS, but that got edited out somehow. Which is why I said "especially if N Korea is within the affected area." There isn't much to knock out in N Korea, so he could say "see, we were hit too" but in reality N Koreans would hardly notice an EMP.

I wasn't referencing your statement Doc, I knew what you meant I was just making a general statement to the OP.

 

[DrHenley]

And...here we go:

South Korean banks brace for massive electromagnetic pulse attack from the North

 

[Maverick]

And...here we go:

South Korean banks brace for massive electromagnetic pulse attack from the North

Wouldn’t an EMP attack on any of our allies also be considered not just an act of war but be considered a nuclear attack as will by the US Military? Thus the possible opening of the Pandora’s box. On top of that, this wouldn’t just affect S.Korea’s economy but most of the Western economies would it not?

 

[Silent Earth]

Wouldn’t an EMP attack on any of our allies also be considered not just an act of war but be considered a nuclear attack as will by the US Military? Thus the possible opening of the Pandora’s box. On top of that, this wouldn’t just affect S.Korea’s economy but most of the Western economies would it not?

They would have to detonate an enhanced nuke and detonate it at least round 30,000 feet

 

[Maverick]

That's true SE. side note, I was a little short on my post above, I was commenting on the fact they were concerned with an EMP wrecking the economy. What I was trying to say, they are worried about an EMP wrecking the economy? The response to the EMP attack would do more than just an EMP in wrecking an economy If the little fat man done that it would be more than just bullets and artillery, thus an EMP would be the least of my worries.

Hardening the financial system is a good idea, but to do it to save the economy? that's 'almost' laughable.. almost

 

[Silent Earth]

I honestly think that if NK popped off a nuke the US would find it almost impossible to stop Israel, the UK, France and perhaps India from getting in pre-emptive strikes on NK. They unlike the US dont give a flying F*** about South Korea never mind NK, and they dont like being threatened.

The UK may only have 4 operational boomers but I'm guessing they are not in the Atlantic and not targeting Russia any more.