flooding and price's

[jimLE]

might wanna read what's below.especially if your living on a tight budget.

25 States Are at Risk of Serious Flooding This Spring, U.S. Forecast Says

www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/climate/climate-change-flooding.html
Food Prices Will Rise In 2019 Adversely Impacting Those Living Paycheck To Paycheck

www.activistpost.com/2019/02/food-prices-will-rise-in-2019-adversely-impacting-those-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.html

 

[Brent S]

I know the average trip into Walmart is all ready much higher than it was even a year ago.

 

[jimLE]

yeah.I'm already having to plan my shopping trips there,more then i use to.will be doing more so by august

 

[Brent S]

I believe growing as much as one can in their garden will become more and more worthwhile financially in the not so far future.

 

[jimLE]

so true.it was already to have your own garden when it comes to quality. but now for lower cost as well.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Not to worry. Because when the 16 year olds get to vote, and AOC is president, everything will be free. Except for the evil "privileged" rich.

 

[tmttactical]

Not to worry. Because when the 16 year olds get to vote, and AOC is president, everything will be free. Except for the evil "privileged" rich.

I would have laughed, if it was not true and most likely to happen.

 

[jimLE]

might want to step up on stocking up on foods..

As Many As A Million Calves Lost In Nebraska” – Beef Prices In The U.S. To Escalate Dramatically In The Coming Months

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...to-escalate-dramatically-in-the-coming-months

 

[Mountain trapper]

might want to step up on stocking up on foods..

As Many As A Million Calves Lost In Nebraska” – Beef Prices In The U.S. To Escalate Dramatically In The Coming Months

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...to-escalate-dramatically-in-the-coming-months

The mid west flooding hasn't seemed to affect the cattle prices out here yet. Maybe in the stores it has. I'm looking at buying some feeder calves now. I'll pick up a few more heifers, a couple steers and a new registered black angus bull. Also found a bred Brown Swiss milk cow for sale. We're still a couple months away from having any grass but I think we have enough hay to carry us through until then.

 

[jimLE]

i haven't been into any store's for beef chicken or what ever since the 6th.so i don't know if any has gone up yet or not.but doubt it.i figure it'll probably be at least another month or 2 before we see a rise in food price's. mainly meats..

 

[Mountain trapper]

Today I went to weigh and pay for the cattle that I looked at on Friday. Since Friday the price went up $.15 cents per pound. I don't know if the increase was related the the mid west flooding or just a normal fluctuation in cattle prices. That comes to about an extra $100 average per head price. Buying livestock is always a gamble.

 

[Dani]

Today I went to weigh and pay for the cattle that I looked at on Friday. Since Friday the price went up $.15 cents per pound. I don't know if the increase was related the the mid west flooding or just a normal fluctuation in cattle prices. That comes to about an extra $100 average per head price. Buying livestock is always a gamble.

Yes it does. . . we were lucky when we were first starting out with the prices being low at that time $1.32 a lb for cattle. Week old calves were only $50 which was when we got our two bulls. . . one beef and one dairy. Only the beef bull is fast enough to catch the girls though. Charlie is just my hunny's 'pet' now.

 

[HunkeredHillbilly]

I believe growing as much as one can in their garden will become more and more worthwhile financially in the not so far future.

that is the reason I started selling seeds and growing my own foods. I wanted to lower my bill as much as possible. I grow many of my own daily foods, like lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash. There are things i know I can grow and save money on. I wanted to help others do the same, So i sell heirloom seeds and plants to people. I want to help get others to start growing and see how much of an impact it has in saving money

 

[Brent S]

that is the reason I started selling seeds and growing my own foods. I wanted to lower my bill as much as possible. I grow many of my own daily foods, like lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and squash. There are things i know I can grow and save money on. I wanted to help others do the same, So i sell heirloom seeds and plants to people. I want to help get others to start growing and see how much of an impact it has in saving money

Honestly, right now I don’t believe it’s cheaper to grow your own stuff for the most part. The costs in labor, fertilizers and a tiller, etc. far outweigh the costs at markets. That being said, the freshness, and the flavor alone make it worthwhile to me. Not to mention knowing what if any pesticides were used. Even selling your stuff dosent make sense for the most part. With the fuel, time and table rental at a farmers market you’re lucky to break even. And lastly, selling canned goods. By the time I grow green beans, prepare them, sterilize jars, and process then in a canner, I would have to charge 15.00 a jar before I really thought it worthwhile!
Don’t get me wrong here, I do so myself and encourage others to grow and preserve their own food as much as possible. The health benefits from all the exercise and nutrients from really fresh foods is worth it alone. The satisfaction of knowing you produced everything for a really good meal is one of the best feelings for me, and tasty to boot. With all this said though, I do believe we will have food shortages before too long on this country. Then it may become economical for a small farmer to make a profit from his produce again. Most of the world is allready having food shortages, it won’t be too long before we see it here too.
Practicing and learning to produce food now when it’s easy to get info and supplies is a wise investment of your time. If anyone thinks that after shtf they will start gardening to sustain themselves they are more than likely to starve to death. Learning this stuff isn’t just reading something out of a book, it takes a lot of trial and error in your specific area and environment.

 

[HunkeredHillbilly]

Honestly, right now I don’t believe it’s cheaper to grow your own stuff for the most part. The costs in labor, fertilizers and a tiller, etc. far outweigh the costs at markets. That being said, the freshness, and the flavor alone make it worthwhile to me. Not to mention knowing what if any pesticides were used. Even selling your stuff dosent make sense for the most part. With the fuel, time and table rental at a farmers market you’re lucky to break even. And lastly, selling canned goods. By the time I grow green beans, prepare them, sterilize jars, and process then in a canner, I would have to charge 15.00 a jar before I really thought it worthwhile!
Don’t get me wrong here, I do so myself and encourage others to grow and preserve their own food as much as possible. The health benefits from all the exercise and nutrients from really fresh foods is worth it alone. The satisfaction of knowing you produced everything for a really good meal is one of the best feelings for me, and tasty to boot. With all this said though, I do believe we will have food shortages before too long on this country. Then it may become economical for a small farmer to make a profit from his produce again. Most of the world is allready having food shortages, it won’t be too long before we see it here too.
Practicing and learning to produce food now when it’s easy to get info and supplies is a wise investment of your time. If anyone thinks that after shtf they will start gardening to sustain themselves they are more than likely to starve to death. Learning this stuff isn’t just reading something out of a book, it takes a lot of trial and error in your specific area and environment.

That is very true, trial and error is a big deal....learning companion plants and knowing how to save your hard earned veggies is a lot to learn. Again your right as most will not learn to grow, most will take from others or starve. I do intend to be one who has food when things get rough. Books can tell you a lot of information, but the authors do not know the condition of your soil, watering needs or the amount of time someone is willing to spend growing. So books are a great starting point, but we must get off our butts and do it.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Honestly, right now I don’t believe it’s cheaper to grow your own stuff for the most part. The costs in labor, fertilizers and a tiller, etc. far outweigh the costs at markets. That being said, the freshness, and the flavor alone make it worthwhile to me. Not to mention knowing what if any pesticides were used. Even selling your stuff dosent make sense for the most part. With the fuel, time and table rental at a farmers market you’re lucky to break even. And lastly, selling canned goods. By the time I grow green beans, prepare them, sterilize jars, and process then in a canner, I would have to charge 15.00 a jar before I really thought it worthwhile!
Don’t get me wrong here, I do so myself and encourage others to grow and preserve their own food as much as possible. The health benefits from all the exercise and nutrients from really fresh foods is worth it alone. The satisfaction of knowing you produced everything for a really good meal is one of the best feelings for me, and tasty to boot. With all this said though, I do believe we will have food shortages before too long on this country. Then it may become economical for a small farmer to make a profit from his produce again. Most of the world is allready having food shortages, it won’t be too long before we see it here too.
Practicing and learning to produce food now when it’s easy to get info and supplies is a wise investment of your time. If anyone thinks that after shtf they will start gardening to sustain themselves they are more than likely to starve to death. Learning this stuff isn’t just reading something out of a book, it takes a lot of trial and error in your specific area and environment.

I agree with you about the cost of gardening, IF you put a cost on your labor, buy fertilizer, pesticides etc. The cost of a tiller would be expensed out over the expected life of the tiller. I'm guessing that my tiller will out live me and cost very little when spread out over 20 years or so.
Other than the cost of my seeds, started plants and the cost of pumping water, I have no other expenses for my garden. We have very fertile soil here that doesn't require commercial fertilizer. When we clean out the coop we use the waste as mulch around the fruit trees and berry plants. This helps hold in the moisture, eliminate weeding and naturally fertilize the plants. And there's zero cost.
This year I'm going to clean out the corral and dump it in the garden and then till it in. Again zero cost.
The cost of fencing the garden can also be expensed out too, as it's also fencing for the cattle.
You could use the same methods for calculating the cost of canning and preserving your harvest. How long will a canning jar last, a pressure cooker, dehydrator etc. Spread that cost out over the expected life of the items and it will be very little when compared to the value of the product that's preserved.
The cost of gardening depends on how one looks at the overall process, and how they calculate their expenses.

 

[tmttactical]

Gardening (farming scale) is a very long term venture. Cost wise, minimal ROI but health wise solid ROI and for SHTF, an absolute winner.

 

[Brent S]

Gardening (farming scale) is a very long term venture. Cost wise, minimal ROI but health wise solid ROI and for SHTF, an absolute winner.

Agreed. I stated above about it not being profitable. Yes, you could sell some produce and make a little money maybe, but I think you could make more money doing other things. For me the health benefits and the security I feel are well worth the effort to do a garden each year. I saw cantaloupes on sale today for .99c each so brought two home. There’s no way I could grow them for that.