Have any experience dealing (buyer or seller) in "BLACK MARKETS"....??

[Amish Heart]

Need a black market for butter. Prices are stupid, really. I have 20 lbs in the freezer that I paid $2 a lb for, but have used at least 15 lbs , so those 20 lbs will go fast. Have about 5 lbs of homemade butter made with raw cream. Aldi's flyer this week has a Super Sale on butter at $3.89 lb, limit 6. That's probably as good as it's gonna get.

 

[Dave V]

Bartering with other locals is, I guess, a form of gray-marketing that even now many of us participate. Or a tile guy might do his neighbor's bathroom floor and/or shower if his electrician neighbor re-wires the tile guy's main panel etc.

Another gray market I have discovered (actually my wife did) is Estate sales! "They" say that the next few years will be the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind as baby boomers pass their belongings to their offspring and their kids just want fast cash, so they pay estate sellers pennies on the dollar to get rid of their parents' stuff. Some of it is crazy valuable and can be sold on Ebay by whoever finds and snags it first.
My wife Google-lensed (just in her phone's Chrome browser) a Chinese plate and saw it was worth a lot. She bought it for $3 and sold it for over $500! Crazy!
That's her thing...for me, it's anything I'm looking for from candles, matches, flares, rope, chains, boxes of 12-2 copper wire, non-perishable foods, radios of all kinds, guns galore, ammo and ammo boxes, propane heaters/stoves, military jackets, pants, gloves, gas masks etc. sleeping bags, tents, compasses, GPS', hatchets, saws, bows, arrows, spears! tarps, shovels, pickaxes, solar panels, generators, rain barrels, medical supplies, medical books, books on survival, books on edible plants, battery banks, tools, tools, tools, and silver coins, sometimes at face value!
These are all things I've gotten (and tons more!) over the last several years. We even caught Covid at one sale...and it wasn't even that great of a sale!

We tend to drive to the Orlando area, just because of the concentration of wealth. But every community will have some treasures!
https://www.estatesales.net/FL/Orlando?force-reload=true
Just type in your zip code and take a look at what's available.
Always look at the on-line pictures so you don't waste your time.
As the date gets closer, more pictures get posted and the actual address as well. If you're not early, you'll almost never get the good stuff. Of course, if you wait to the end of the day, they'll practically GIVE you anything you want, but by then, there's rarely anything worth taking, even for free. That illuminates something we often ask ourselves...are we leaving a mess for our kids to deal with like so many of these other boomers have? I hope not.

 

[Sourdough]

"WOW"...........This thread got some serious legs. I thought was going to be Dead on Arrival early on. You just never know what will trigger conversation on forums.

 

[randyt]

When I lived in a dry county, beer could be had at the local junkyard.

 

[randyt]

Would title jumping be considered black market. Title jumping is when we purchase a car and get a signed off title. Instead of transferring the car to our name we sell it to someone else and they register it.

 

[Sourdough]

Would title jumping be considered black market. Title jumping is when we purchase a car and get a signed off title. Instead of transferring the car to our name we sell it to someone else and they register it.

I don't know. I know it is totally legal on Real Estate transactions.

 

[Aerindel]

Grey Market for me.

Things that are legal to own, but not to buy or sell.

Yup. A fair bit of that.

 

[Aerindel]

Would title jumping be considered black market. Title jumping is when we purchase a car and get a signed off title. Instead of transferring the car to our name we sell it to someone else and they register it.

I don't know why it would be.....anyone can sell a car to anyone else. Who cares if who you sell it to, is the person who registers it?

 

[randyt]

It's illegal in michigan to buy a car and the seller sight off and then the buyer to sell to someone else without first transferring the car to the first buyer, it's a tax thing

 

[randyt]

Here is a explanation

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/...ing is when someone,history kept by the state.

 

[elkhound]

It's illegal in michigan to buy a car and the seller sight off and then the buyer to sell to someone else without first transferring the car to the first buyer, it's a tax thing

here too....its a thing to do with being a licensed car dealer.....i know a guy traded all the time in old clunkers...wasnt long he was in trouble.

basically he was flipping cars to earn a few bucks each time.

 

[Aerindel]

here too....its a thing to do with being a licensed car dealer.....i know a guy traded all the time in old clunkers...wasnt long he was in trouble.

basically he was flipping cars to earn a few bucks each time.

Ah, yeah, No sales tax here. I have a friend who flips dozens of cars a year, never had a problem. I don't know if registers them to himself or not first...but registration is cheap so not a big deal to pay $80 on a car he is flipping for hundreds more than he paid.

 

[elkhound]

Ah, yeah, No sales tax here. I have a friend who flips dozens of cars a year, never had a problem. I don't know if registers them to himself or not first...but registration is cheap so not a big deal to pay $80 on a car he is flipping for hundreds more than he paid.

yea i just went and looked it up for my state....you gotta have a dealers license here....only takes a handful to be breaking the law too.....and the last couple of years they have tightened it down even more...use to see vehicles sitting in walmart parking lots and dmv drove around taking down numbers on sign and other info to see who was selling....it wasnt long that ended too.

i am sure car dealers lobbied for this law too by the way.