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An esee6 is a tough expensive loss. Have you replaced it yet? Are you open to the idea of other knives? I can find sharp well made kit for fairly cheap. Machetes, tomahawks, knives if it comes with a blade I’m the guy. Remember that one is none and 2 is one.
 
GaRp58 said:
Glad to hear if I could help even a bit from 6000 km away. The shotgun can be a very good house protection weapon. Don't let those self proclaimed legends tell you different. The looks, sound and damage of a shotgun is more than been proven before. Many shotguns were carried and used in Vietnam.
ONLY...use birdshot for the house protection...Slugs and Buckshot will go through the walls and get an innocent person in the house if you miss, birdshot will not open up with a normal length barrel unless it gets out much further than the distance in ANY room in your house and it will make the biggest hole in a human you could imagine. Make sure the local people see you walking around the house in the windows with a pistol or around the yard with the shotgun. They will go to another house which they think or know is not so well armed. Make all those involved well practiced if they are old enough. Teach them to load and unload, feed a round, load a magazine and the safety/fire switch. Let them shoot if possible. Use earplugs AND hearing protectors at the same time for a special reason...If they shoot and hear how loud the gun is, they will close their eyes and maybe miss. With the ear protector/plugs combo, they will not be so sensitive. The first round fired is not as important as the first round
on target...have fun and be prepped...Gary
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I just got a shotgun - a mossberg and it wasn't expensive at guns go and I know I'm comfortable with it (or at least as comfortable as I will likely ever be with any guns). I didn't consider the possible unintended effects of the larger shot sizes. I am going to buy ammo tomorrow (fortunately still available here in my town) so I will take this into consideration. Someone else told me you should use buckshot for defense though.

Anyway, LexiRae, I know prepping can be overwhelming starting off when there are people talking about all kinds of fancy toys. Hell, I get flustered sometimes when people are discussing things I'm not familiar with and I go google it and it's thousands of dollars. But I tell myself I have to start with the basics. I agree with @Brent S on the water filter - water is one item you will not live without. In a SHTF situation clean water may be hard to come by.
 
KateMTx said:
I just got a shotgun - a mossberg and it wasn't expensive at guns go and I know I'm comfortable with it (or at least as comfortable as I will likely ever be with any guns). I didn't consider the possible unintended effects of the larger shot sizes. I am going to buy ammo tomorrow (fortunately still available here in my town) so I will take this into consideration. Someone else told me you should use buckshot for defense though.

Anyway, LexiRae, I know prepping can be overwhelming starting off when there are people talking about all kinds of fancy toys. Hell, I get flustered sometimes when people are discussing things I'm not familiar with and I go google it and it's thousands of dollars. But I tell myself I have to start with the basics. I agree with @Brent S on the water filter - water is one item you will not live without. In a SHTF situation clean water may be hard to come by.
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Buckshot for defense depends on the range and location of the target. Outdoor target, okay. Inside house target, not recommended. Over penetration is a real thing. Even buckshot from a 410 (low powered shotgun) will penetrate thought several walls indoors. At close range, bird shot can be very lethal and not over penetrate. Myth 1: You don't have to aim a shotgun --- FALSE. At close range (distance in a house) you do have to aim, as the spread will be very small. myth 2: Racking the slide will scare of eh bad guys. Has not proven to be true, most shooting involving a shotgun, the bad guys did not flee at the sound of the slide being racked.
 
The comments here are getting closer to the truth and reality of a standoff. OO Buckshot will not even penetrate a leather jacket a 50 yards, but it has a 10 foot wide pattern and will get 5-6 persons standing near each other with a .38 caliber lead ball and really get their attention though. I have shot with rifled slugs from a .20 ga. Mossberg at 50 gallon barrels at 200 yards. Yes you must definitely aim anything if you wish to get the first shot on target. At night time, if you have no sight AND!!! are absolutely sure that the target is the enemy (no family in that direction) you must remember to close both eyes, trust your ears and direction of sound, shoot at what you hear. Very difficult but possible. Several shots with a pistol. A short burst in a flat figure 8 with a fully automatic. Two to three shots with a shotgun. After shooting, immediately fall flat to compense for any shots coming from a falling person, dying person or someone with a bullet proof vest...Gary
 
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