Hmm, guess I'm guilty of a couple myself...

[VenomJockey]

My "scratch cooking" leaves a bit to be desired, and I am pretty "secretive" about preps.....

https://www.askaprepper.com/10-common-survival-mistakes-are-you-making-one-of-them/

 

[lonewolf]

the one thing I take no part in is communications, I seldom use a mobile phone and I don't use the land line, I know people that have walkie talkies, but I only communicate on forums and post SHTF wont be communicating with anyone, I just want to be left alone.

 

[KateMTx]

Some of this is good advice, but some not so much. While I'd like for everyone to be smart about prepping, the fact is many people are too short-sighted and it is wise to keep it to yourself in case something does happen and one of those people decides they want what you have.

 

[lonewolf]

OPSEC in other words.

 

[jontte]

Kate said already what I was thinking about,not in a million years would I tell my neighbors that I prep,as I don't want them behind my door demanding food and other help..
my brother knows I have some stuff ,but is not aware the extent of "stuff"
slowly I have convinced him to keep certain items at hand,like water and food,so it's better.

 

[lonewolf]

my neighbours don't know what I have, I say hello and good morning but that's about it, I don't want any more contact than that, most of them will be dead or leave as soon as the corner store is empty and the power goes off, this place is like a ghost town most of the time anyway.

 

[VenomJockey]

"Sharing" preps seems to me to be kinda self-defeating....yours will be the first place they knock on the door when they run out!

 

[lonewolf]

there are other doors to choose from and mine isn't the first one they come to.
besides, i'm not opening the door until their all either dead or gone(aka "hunker down time")

 

[KateMTx]

I am good with keeping everything secret right now, but I'm afraid my bleeding heart will be what kills me. I hope I can change quick after SHTF because right now I can't see myself NOT trying to share with people, once I see them suffering.

 

[jontte]

I can understand you Kate, afterall we are only human.

 

[TexasFreedom]

BP, when all the other doors have been knocked down and raided, and they come to your door, do you have a plan? They are not going to knock, but knock it down & shoot what moves. Secret underground bunker maybe?

My plan is simple. I'm far enough away from populated regions that I'd only see smaller and limited numbers of groups. If they stay to the road, they can pass. If they trespass, long range rifles (they will already be warned from road signs every mile or so). OPSEC for SHTF. We won't have time to 'talk' to each group or be nice or 'share'. The road sign will be simple, "Next 10 miles, stay on road. Leaving the road and trespassing on land will be a fatal mistake. Not negotiable. Go with God." Short & simple. If we see a group we would like to talk with, we can initiate a conversation.

 

[VenomJockey]

I am good with keeping everything secret right now, but I'm afraid my bleeding heart will be what kills me. I hope I can change quick after SHTF because right now I can't see myself NOT trying to share with people, once I see them suffering.

Human feelings/attitude, but it will get you killed!

 

[Mountain trapper]

Even my wife and kids don't know just how much "stuff" I have put away.

 

[VenomJockey]

Even my wife and kids don't know just how much "stuff" I have put away.

One person can keep a secret....two or more cannot!! :m4:

 

[TexasFreedom]

When I think about telling someone a secret, I ask "can you keep a secret?". And my next statement will be "so can I." End of conversation. Loose lips sink ships.

 

[lonewolf]

BP, when all the other doors have been knocked down and raided, and they come to your door, do you have a plan? They are not going to knock, but knock it down & shoot what moves. Secret underground bunker maybe?

My plan is simple. I'm far enough away from populated regions that I'd only see smaller and limited numbers of groups. If they stay to the road, they can pass. If they trespass, long range rifles (they will already be warned from road signs every mile or so). OPSEC for SHTF. We won't have time to 'talk' to each group or be nice or 'share'. The road sign will be simple, "Next 10 miles, stay on road. Leaving the road and trespassing on land will be a fatal mistake. Not negotiable. Go with God." Short & simple. If we see a group we would like to talk with, we can initiate a conversation.

my location is so far from the big cities where most of these looters live that it will be a very long walk, like a month to the nearest, and none of them will have heard of this place anyway. mobs are the least of my worries.

 

[TexasFreedom]

my location is so far from the big cities where most of these looters live that it will be a very long walk, like a month to the nearest, and none of them will have heard of this place anyway. mobs are the least of my worries.

I thought Britain is maybe 100 miles wide & 400 miles long. A person walking can go 10-20 miles per day. Looking at the map, there is nowhere more than maybe 50 miles from a decent sized city. That is a 3 day walk for a big 'caravan' of people.

Another way to look at it is very local. How many homes are there within 1 mile (in all directions) of your house? For me that number is about 30. I'd prefer that number to be 5. But that's how many people you can expect to immediately be knocking on your door, if not knocking it in. This is a 0-5 minute walking distance, front door to front door.

 

[lonewolf]

I thought Britain is maybe 100 miles wide & 400 miles long. A person walking can go 10-20 miles per day. Looking at the map, there is nowhere more than maybe 50 miles from a decent sized city. That is a 3 day walk for a big 'caravan' of people.

your information is incorrect.
Lands End(Cornwall) to John O'Groats (Scotland) is 900 miles, the narrowest point may be 100 miles or so (probably somewhere around Hadrian's Wall) but it widens out at the bottom and is several hundred miles wide, someone walking from say London to Penzance is looking at a 400+ mile journey or thereabouts.
as for "nowhere is more than 50 miles from a decent sized city" that is just wrong, wrong, wrong, whilst some places are indeed such a distance from a big city but as a general statement that is seriously incorrect.
another thing that you should be aware of is that in the UK 2 out of every 3 people is seriously Obese and diabetis is increasing at an alarming rate.
wife was told by a professional person, a Doctor no less, that we live "in the middle of nowhere", and he's not the only person to say that.

 

[DrHenley]

wife was told by a professional person, a Doctor no less, that we live "in the middle of nowhere", and he's not the only person to say that.

Let's put that into perspective bigpaul:

Population density of North Devon: 88/km² (230/sq mi )

Population density of the State of Georgia (the majority live in the Atlanta metro area): 65.4/km² (165/sq mi)

Population density of the county where my BOL is located: 8/km² (22/sq mi)

Population density of the state of Wyoming: 2.31/km² (5.97/sq mi)

 

[lonewolf]

Let's put that into perspective bigpaul:

Population density of North Devon: 88/km² (230/sq mi )

Population density of the State of Georgia (the majority live in the Atlanta metro area): 65.4/km² (165/sq mi)

Population density of the county where my BOL is located: 8/km² (22/sq mi)

Population density of the state of Wyoming: 2.31/km² (5.97/sq mi)

yeah well we all know the USA is bigger than the UK, everything is bigger is America or so they keep telling us
the population of the UK is also smaller than that of the US.
North Devon has LESS than 10% of the population of Devon as a whole, this is hill farming country- lots of hills!! most of the population of Devon lives around the south coast.
what are you trying to say?

 

[DrHenley]

what are you trying to say?

Population density is how densely populated a place is bigpaul. You might think you are sparsely populated in North Devon, but...

North Devon (1,086 km²) is almost exactly the same size as Humphreys County (1116 km²) where the BOL is located. Humphreys County is also farming country.

There are 95,440 people in North Devon
There are 9, 375 people in Humphreys County.

So what I'm trying to say is that North Devon is CROWDED!

Likewise, Arcticdude and Maverick probably think Humphreys County is crowded.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Population density is how densely populated a place is bigpaul. You might think you are sparsely populated in North Devon, but...

North Devon (1,086 km²) is almost exactly the same size as Humphreys County (1116 km²) where the BOL is located. Humphreys County is also farming country.

There are 95,440 people in North Devon
There are 9, 375 people in Humphreys County.

So what I'm trying to say is that North Devon is CROWDED!]

Likewise, Arcticdude and Maverick probably think Humphreys County is crowded.

My county has 2800 people and my nearest neighbor is 5 miles away. So yes, I think my area is over crowded too. It may not be over crowded by lower 48 standards, but it is by mine.

 

[lonewolf]

compared to the rest of the county North Devon is sparsely populated, I have already said what a doctor said. I also said ND has less than 10% of the population as a whole, meaning 90% live elsewhere, this is not a tourist area. compared to other parts of the UK my location IS remote and has a low population.(parish pop 1,829). as most British "preppers" live either in the big cities or large urban centres my situation is certainly better than that, we each work with what we have.
please stop with the personal remarks.