I did not know that

[Silent Earth]

I did not know that !
Just found out that the texting system app Whatsapp is fully encrypted compared to ordinary Texts, Theres a fascinating article on encryption of peoples information on the TV news show Al Jazeera. So I'll use the whatsapp app on my phone from now on. I'm all for anything that sticks it to the man.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...o-wars-encryption-debate-161022114107446.html

 

[Maverick]

You might wan't to skip Whatsapp until they straighten their crap out, a far better alternative is Wire Private Messenger ...for now

 

[Maverick]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wire-world...p-offers-total-encryption-calls-texts-1548964

 

[Maverick]

FYI
The popular messaging service's recent change in privacy policy to start sharing users' phone numbers with Facebook - the first policy change since WhatsApp was acquired by Facebook in 2014 - has attracted regulatory scrutiny in Europe.

http://news.trust.org/item/20161028140231-b0lzy

 

[MNwr786]

An hour after downloading unseen.is, my phone service cut out. Couldnt use it at all for 5 minutes. Even the online account summary was "down for maintenance". My girlfriends phone (same name on account) had no maintenance issue. After a brief period, my phone powered off and restarted.

I assume unseen.is earned me a root kit to capture content pre encryption.

I always tell people, the only truly safe encryption is a one time pad. A one time pad is a key comprised of completely random letters equal in length to the text. The key does a simple character shift to the code, just like a basic viginere cipher. The goal here is to use a key that lacks any resemblance of logic amd never reuses any part of it. This way the code is as random as the key.

I used excel to open a photo or sound file (like static or blowing into a mic) as ascii characters and filtered out the non text characters. If you used a similar method to generate your random data (computers and math dont do random) and shared the key pool with whom you choose, you're set.

Heres the catch... keyloggers. You need to do the key entry and subsiquent code generation (as well as the decode process) on a non-networked device. I prefer making matching paper codebooks and burn the page i use immediately after i type the coded text into a text messege.

Your phone should never see the decoded data or the key, just the encrypted content.
Use random, non logical, full sized keys! Be safe!

 

[DrHenley]

https://www.facebook.com/notes/coli...e-social-network-might-be-/10152906279535842/

 

[Squirtgunsquirter]

I think the encryption 786 is talking about is the only real option. I don't trust any service to faithfully encrypt anything, especially if its a free service. There are only a few companies that provide the "backbone" of the internet, and if I was a Government intelligence agency, they would be the first places I would show up, with lots of paperwork and trucks full of scary looking guys with badges and ID cards. Wouldn't you? If your job was to say, protect everyone in an apartment complex, and in order to do that you needed to know as much as possible about what was going on, wouldn't you need to open everyone's mail? And if you could do it without them knowing, by providing the actual mail delivery service?

I never felt like the internet was "free" or that I somehow deserved privacy on it. Someone, somewhere, OWNS the internet, or at least the chips and wires it runs on, and that's as good as owning it.

TOR was supposed to be encrypted, and untraceable. But then it turned out if you had a big enough "view" of traffic, you could discover the origin of a user.

I think a lot slips through the cracks, and I think "they" let some things go to keep people in the dark about how much internet traffic they can actually monitor, but I have no doubt if an agency took an interest in my email, that within minutes they wouldn't be reading every email I ever sent, since my first email account. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'm pretty sure, that what would make the MOST SENSE to me, would be for every computer sold in the US, to have a key logger built into it, so that every single character was tracked and information sent to some massive processing and filtering location, some giant building full of the best comps money can buy. You could hide the fact that someones computer was transmitting all their data by requiring, say, constant "updates" and forcing it to send "error reports". And you could make it all about "state security" so that the companies could never say a word about it, or their executives would go to jail with a serious sentence.

Of course they are watching. And I see no reason they would allow us to "hack" up a way to get around it.

The internet is a car that I pay to borrow from the US Government, and there is a camera on the dashboard pointed right at me, watching every move I make while I am behind the wheel. I have no doubts about that.

 

[SheilaT.]

I think the encryption 786 is talking about is the only real option. I don't trust any service to faithfully encrypt anything, especially if its a free service. There are only a few companies that provide the "backbone" of the internet, and if I was a Government intelligence agency, they would be the first places I would show up, with lots of paperwork and trucks full of scary looking guys with badges and ID cards. Wouldn't you? If your job was to say, protect everyone in an apartment complex, and in order to do that you needed to know as much as possible about what was going on, wouldn't you need to open everyone's mail? And if you could do it without them knowing, by providing the actual mail delivery service?

I never felt like the internet was "free" or that I somehow deserved privacy on it. Someone, somewhere, OWNS the internet, or at least the chips and wires it runs on, and that's as good as owning it.

TOR was supposed to be encrypted, and untraceable. But then it turned out if you had a big enough "view" of traffic, you could discover the origin of a user.

I think a lot slips through the cracks, and I think "they" let some things go to keep people in the dark about how much internet traffic they can actually monitor, but I have no doubt if an agency took an interest in my email, that within minutes they wouldn't be reading every email I ever sent, since my first email account. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'm pretty sure, that what would make the MOST SENSE to me, would be for every computer sold in the US, to have a key logger built into it, so that every single character was tracked and information sent to some massive processing and filtering location, some giant building full of the best comps money can buy. You could hide the fact that someones computer was transmitting all their data by requiring, say, constant "updates" and forcing it to send "error reports". And you could make it all about "state security" so that the companies could never say a word about it, or their executives would go to jail with a serious sentence.

Of course they are watching. And I see no reason they would allow us to "hack" up a way to get around it.

The internet is a car that I pay to borrow from the US Government, and there is a camera on the dashboard pointed right at me, watching every move I make while I am behind the wheel. I have no doubts about that.

This.
I don't worry about the big picture, however I do take my personal online security more seriously. Every forum I am on I use a different name and email address, some I use a VPN too until I decide I like the forum. I'm vague about my whereabouts, age birthday, even sex! It's other individuals that I am more wary of, not the gvt or companies, simply because my personal security is important to me, my general online presence is an open book and they will read it if I want them to or not so I can't see the point in getting het up about who knows where I buy my panties from, how many and what colour or size!
I use Whats app because it's convenient and free. When my son was abroad, it gave me a giggle that I could chat to him in real time on my phone. I really don't get that bent out of shape over monitoring.

 

[MNwr786]

I get what you are sayin, but.... Everybody should get bent out of shape over monotoring. Having nothing to hide from the govt is no reason to open your life to them. That kind of thinkin leads to communism. The free will to be watched is personal choice, and im pro personal choice, but when it comes to the largest crime syndicate on earth... let me share a story.

A relative of mine working in california was part of a contract job to build an 820,000 sq ft warehouse. The sole purpose of this warehouse was to store servers for the recording of txts, emails and calls. They are ALL recorded.

Do i think big brother is out to get us? No. I do not. But i believe they are prepared to handle a hell of a fight. Why else does the bureau of land management carry assult rifles? Lol... anyways, i know im on a "list". I was, for other reasons, caught with a high explosives lab in my basement (i made "explosives" for work and entertainment, NOT "bombs" that mame and kill. And my total cooperation is probably why they let it go). A bunch of white powders that look like drugs dont always like drug test kits so i had to immediately tell on myself so they didnt lose fingers or die.

I only tell that story because it says something about our govt that the conspiracy theorists would disagree with. My freedom is proof that they are not out to get everyone with a reasonable skillset, in fact, such people will save this country gorilla style come that time.

...But still, they can stay the hell out of my dirty minded google searches lol!!!

 

[Mountain trapper]

I can't imagine anything more important to freedom and liberty than personal privacy. I find it shocking that so many people on this site don't care about the government snooping in their private affiars. The cost in tax payers dollars alone for all this monitoring should scare the crap out anyone who cares about an already over bloated nanny government.
I find it sad that so many people are ok with living under a police state. All in the naive assumption that it will make them "safer" and more "secure".

 

[MNwr786]

"Safe and secure" definitely has too high a price tag!

Theres a book that would change the world... if only people could find the time to read 60 pages.