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a ramble from me...you are warned..it could be one post or 100...lol

in my original post i said in 500 years..i will try and only talk about that and not time before as it would require more than i can type out and organize with my poor typing,bad spelling and lack of proper grammar etc....

in 500 years most of easy access minerals,ores,oil etc. will be gone or mostly gone.if we develop things like methane i am not sure of...for now i say no.

#1 critical thing will be oil and all that comes from it from plastics to fertilizer.Gasoline/diesel and fertilizer are the main things this large population cant live without.Food and transport of it bottom line...and farming equipment used in it and powered by diesel. So i believe the population at some point will decline drastically.You can look up population growth chart and how fertilizer invention is linked with it in charts.

Currently we live in a world where on area we use satellite guided tractors while other portions are still using oxen with a wooden point.In 500 years it will be the same drastic contrast only on a much lower scale overall.Power generation will be a regional thing with gas gone..mostly..generation will stop from these natgas station. we will have only power from dams and possibly nuclear. But not sure about the nuke plants as we will have to have workers and ways to store and discard spent cells and whatever all that goes with that and with lack of diesel there wont be transport to facilities etc. to keep it all going.Places with power from dams will be or have limited population numbers based on food availability produced in that area. Again transport will limit everything. Some fuel may still exist but it will be super limited and rationed.

Some very industrious folks will have or invent items from trash. I know years ago a guy took an electric fork lift motor and battery and rigged it up in some tiny car,...i think a chevette maybe...he could travel 200 miles around his area in the thing.

Modern day hunter/gather will scavenge everything from natural resources to salvaged goods from dead vehicles,bricks,stone,metals and so on..oh and plastics..we will take all the trash from past and chip grind it and reuse plastic.A bottle be it plastic or SS for drinking water will be a guarded item as will a backpack,slingpack etc. everyone will carry a pack with water and a few items so when they run across items they can get them back home or to a trader.One thing to will be a thermos of some type or a bowl with screw on lid so if you pass a place offering food or can work for a few wages and a meal you can take some home if offered. I know in depression my family were poor but they farmed hard and had some food and they shared with people in town who they knew or done work for them etc. Grandfather said he would make sauerkraut and a few folks come up and fill their little lunch bucket thing up to take home to their families.

maybe more later..tired of typing.
 
...what do you see in 500 years from now...what do you envision the world looking like...

'..Truly, a Fascinating Posit, Jim...' - Spock ;)

IMO, somewhere between...

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😍

..and...
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:cool:

Ergo: I think we'll Always have Some 'remnants of the Old Ways / World' - that's just how Us Humans are.. But, whatever it will be, well.. Nothin I can Do to swing it one way or another, Now, as I'll Long be just a faded photo in some ancient dust-crusted album, or a few pixels stored in some forgotten SSD, at best.. (and, really, we All herein, will be the same..)

Neat to think about, tho... 🤔
jd
 
There will be things that do away because of lack of sustainability. That word gets used a bunch as of late but with huge reduction in population frivilious things will be off the table. A luxury might be something like @Aerindel mentioned an ipad or some forum of digital music you can have or old computers to listen and watch stuff stored on harddrives and thumbdrivers etc. Like over in Gaza where stuff was so limited they had an area called slicon valley of Gaza and there the young people built computers and invented other techno things and learned to repair every single item over and over and over.There was a video i will never find again of a small shop owner who repaired electronics in Nepal. He mentioned how poor they were and repairing items was the only way they could have anything. he was fixing old flip phones.

If an area has some electric there will be limited manufacturing but it will be for life enhancing items like eye glasses,fish hooks,fishing line if possible, if close to coast fishing nets etc. In some areas wood stoves will be built. Even if just on one by one item from anything salvageable.

Look at history and how thing happened and what was important. The Navajo once meeting the spanish and seen sheep,goats,cattle and horses they instantly took to being herdsmen. They seen sheep as source of food and fiber. why was fiber so important..the blankets they made...in area where firewood was limited and hauled long distances a wool blanket kept you warm without need of firewood. Navajo also learned silver smithing and made the jewelry they are so famous for along with other tribes of soutwest.

Land..there will be much more public land and just open land. there will be areas close by larger populations where agriculture will be done by individuals and also areas of timber that will be for firewood cutting.If you go back and look how lands were managed before an event called 'enclosure' you can see glimpses of what i am talking about. Dont get me wrong there will be private lands but just less of it and it will be absorbed by national forest,national agriculture/allotment areas,national firewood forest etc. I think it will be different according to the folks in a given area to decide and how it works out.If not national/fed lands then at least state lands or county lands. My area multiple small towns own several thousand acres of forest.

Large areas will become Native American land again. Indigenous peoples will take up horseback riding again by capturing the wild horses in our western areas and along with this we have approx 550,000 buffalo that could..if left alone for 20ish years become over 8million strong herd again. With no fuel cattle ranches will disappear slowly and if dont they will be very small areas.We will see hogans with solar panel/s and simple lighting and we will see natives riding going on hunts and tending herds of sheep,goats and some cattle etc.

Fences will rot away and native grasslands will slowly recover and buffalo,elk etc. will take over areas along with trees,bushes etc.

If you are on coast yo will learn boat building via wood or plastics.Areas like Mississippi river will be main routes of trade along with all coastal areas. we will see small sailing ships and boats and adventurous men/women making a living along waterways and more.

Home shops where people can repair or build things they need and want in daily life will be huge bonus to those who planned or have a vision to do so.

blah blah blah

maybe more later..tired of typing again.
 
100 years ago people could have never imagined life today.
At the rate we are going I would not be surprised if we haven't been totally wiped out in 100 years much less 500.
Maybe something like this.
Totally frozen no life

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Then you should be thanking us 'carbon-burners' that have been keeping the fire of 'global warming' burning for decades. :D
 
'..Truly, a Fascinating Posit, Jim...' - Spock ;)

IMO, somewhere between...

Forest-Bot-Opr-a-Nu-Life.png
😍

..and...
Space-Banjoer2.png
:cool:

Ergo: I think we'll Always have Some 'remnants of the Old Ways / World' - that's just how Us Humans are.. But, whatever it will be, well.. Nothin I can Do to swing it one way or another, Now, as I'll Long be just a faded photo in some ancient dust-crusted album, or a few pixels stored in some forgotten SSD, at best.. (and, really, we All herein, will be the same..)

Neat to think about, tho... 🤔
jd

That first picture was my desktop picture for about five years.
 
That first picture was my desktop picture for about five years.

..Yep, pretty sure You were the one I 'kiped' it from, via some online-post somewhere, and... Now, it's My desktop background. :) Love that Illustrator.. :cool: Reminds me of the old classic 1970's 'sci-fi Spaceship illustrators, ie:

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..etc

..Man, I drew / re-drew stuff like that Incessantly as a kid.. IIRC, shortly after the first time watching Kubrick's 2001.. :cool: Also loved the ones where they made an 'Offworld scene' out of it, ie:

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:cool:

..Loved to 'imagine the Backstories' to such-like scenes in my head, and sometimes would invent / sketch-up elements / other-scenes / characters, etc.. I think that's what I Love so much about that 'Forest Scene', there.. So much 'said by not saying it'.. :cool:

Anyhoo, back to the Future.. ;)

jd
 
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