*JELLY**JAM**PRESERVES**PRESERVES SPREAD. What the DIFFERENCE....??

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Sourdough

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So what "exactly" is the difference..?? And are there others not listed..??

STRONGLY prefer knowledgeable or Semi-Knowledgeable replies. Wild clueless guesses are worthless.
 
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national canning center..like @SoJer said depend on who you ask and how they make it one has seeds. i do not like seeds in my blackberry products.

sourdough you might like a rumpot..i will look for a good video explaining it. its often used over cakes.i think it would go well over pancakes od a dollip over oatmeal as dessert.

https://nchfp.uga.edu/how/can_07/types_jellied_products.html

Making Jams and Jellies​

Types of Jellied Products​

Jelly, jam, preserves, conserves and marmalades are fruit products that are jellied or thickened. Most are preserved by sugar. Their individual characteristics depend on the kind of fruit used and the way it is prepared, the proportions of different ingredients in the mixture and the method of cooking.

Jellies are usually made by cooking fruit juice with sugar. (Some are made without cooking using special uncooked jelly recipes.) A good product is clear and firm enough to hold its shape when turned out of the container, but quivers when the container is moved. When cut, it should be tender yet retain the angle of the cut. Jelly should have a flavorful, fresh, fruity taste.

Jams are thick, sweet spreads made by cooking crushed or chopped fruits with sugar. Jams tend to hold their shape but are generally less firm than jelly. (Recipes are also available for uncooked jams.)

Preserves are small, whole fruit or uniform size pieces in a clear, slightly gelled syrup. The fruit should be tender and plump.

Conserves are jam-like products that may be made with a combination of fruits. They also contain nuts, raisins or coconut.

Marmalades are soft fruit jellies containing small pieces of fruit or peel evenly suspended in the transparent jelly. They often contain citrus fruit.

Other fruit products that are preserved by sugar but not jellied include butters, honeys and syrups. Fruit butters are sweet spreads made by cooking fruit pulp with sugar to a thick consistency. Spices are often added. Honeys and syrups are made by cooking fruit juice or pulp with sugar to the consistency of honey or syrup.
 
rumpot or rumtopf @Sourdough this was also known as bachelor jam

edit to add...sourdough i bet it would be good over your canned brown bread as a treat/dessert.

to my understanding these traditional was a way to preserve fruits through out a season and people just added fruits as they came available from gardens or in the wild hedges. maybe @sonya123 can tell a bit more.

 
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I am trying to lay-in a three-year supply of these products. I am getting there, but the prices have exploded up in the last two or three months. At least doubled. It is not uniform price rise across all types of fruits. So, the pressure is on to close this goal. Two 18 oz. jars per week=154 jars for one year. So far, I have been procuring Peach Preserves & Red Raspberry Preserves. For some reason the Peach price has not been escalating like the Raspberry. I can't find Blueberry Preserves. Not in 18 oz. jars, that I could get shipped.
 
Why don't use just do your own? I know you have blueberries, blackberries and raspberries up in Alaska. Both Jellies and Jams are very easy to do and do not require many special equipment other than jars and lids.
 
Why don't use just do your own? I know you have blueberries, blackberries and raspberries up in Alaska. Both Jellies and Jams are very easy to do and do not require many special equipment other than jars and lids.
Would be very hard in my living habitat. No kitchen, no stove, no sink, no running water, no tables, one chair. in a tiny plywood box. I have a lot of money earning near zero interest. Better for me to purchase everything I could need for four years survival. Get rid of the wasting/depreciating dollars, and inventory food as a hedge against inflation.
 
Would be very hard in my living habitat. No kitchen, no stove, no sink, no running water, no tables, one chair. in a tiny plywood box. I have a lot of money earning near zero interest. Better for me to purchase everything I could need for four years survival. Get rid of the wasting/depreciating dollars, and inventory food as a hedge against inflation.
If you had a gal in your life, trust me, she would be able to find a way to do it even in your habitat.
 
I think that is valid. It would require a woman from a country other than America.
 
Nope. There's some American women that could can jam/jelly/preserves over a fire, among other things. I know a few.
But would they live where they poop in a five-gallon bucket, and pee in coffee cans, haul water from the creek, live in a cold tiny plywood box, and be fill with joy about it. Where there are few other women, no stores, Grizzly bears in the yard, approaching her "as" dinner.
 
Nope. There's some American women that could can jam/jelly/preserves over a fire, among other things. I know a few.

Been there, done that. Grew up in the bush with wood stoves, creek water, chamber pot and an outhouse. It was the norm. Bears too.
 
Look what I found on Pinterest
Fruits in jars.jpg
 
Would be very hard in my living habitat. No kitchen, no stove, no sink, no running water, no tables, one chair. in a tiny plywood box.
I am sitting here wondering what you're going to be spreading your jelly, jam, and preserves on for four years without any bread? Or, do you plan on just eating these spreads out of the jar?
 
I am sitting here wondering what you're going to be spreading your jelly, jam, and preserves on for four years without any bread? Or, do you plan on just eating these spreads out of the jar?
Pan Bread. I use biscuit mix and some stuff, super slow, bake it in a frying pan on stove top using trivits. or 30 cases of "Sailor Boy Pilot Bread"(longterm storage (must be dry) 75 years, maybe forever.
 
Pan Bread. I use biscuit mix and some stuff, super slow, bake it in a frying pan on stove top using trivits. or 30 cases of "Sailor Boy Pilot Bread"(longterm storage (must be dry) 75 years, maybe forever.
Got it. I was confused because in an earlier post you said you had no kitchen and no stove.

How do you heat your place?
 
I have a large woodstove & seven cords of wood. But I don't use it. It is for emergencies/SHTF. I heat with small oil bath electric heater. The electric is free. And I can quickly adjust the electric heat up or down.

I have a one burner (Coleman Type) Camping stove (Propane) Stoves last me 4 to 5 years on average, I keep three new ones on hand for back-up. Plus I have 8 or 9 used-up ones that still kind'a work (poorly).
 
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I have a large woodstove & seven cords of wood. But I don't use it. It is for emergencies/SHTF. I heat with small oil bath electric heater. The electric is free. And I can quickly adjust the electric heat up or down.

I have a one burner (Coleman Type) Camping stove (Propane) Stoves last me 4 to 5 years on average, I keep three new ones on hand for back-up. Plus I have 8 or 9 used-up ones that still kind'a work (poorly).
When your electricity goes down during the collapse, how long will that 7 cords last you? How much fuel do you have stored up for the Coleman stoves?

Your place sounds like our one-room, off-grid guest cabin. Notice the Coleman stove and the woodstove. We also have a hand pump well.
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one thing about jellies,jams etc. i seen mention in europe during ww2 rationing they used oatmeal with a spoonful of them on top for breakfast and a treat. seen a guy trying to live on war rations and he hesitated in doing this but afterwards he loved it once he tried it.
 
How much fuel do you have stored up for the Coleman stoves?
About 14 years' worth. 17 of those 20# bottles. One bottle lasts me nine to ten (sometimes eleven) Months.

When your electricity goes down during the collapse, how long will that 7 cords last you?
Much longer than I will. I am "end of life". AND, the Alaska power grid is stand alone, like Texas. Not connected to any other grid.

I am surprised you did not ask, why the electric is free.
 
About 14 years' worth. 17 of those 20# bottles. One bottle lasts me nine to ten (sometimes eleven) Months.


Much longer than I will. I am "end of life". AND, the Alaska power grid is stand alone, like Texas. Not connected to any other grid.

I am surprised you did not ask, why the electric is free.
Whether you pay for grid electricity or not, it will most likely disappear if everything fails.

What exactly do you mean by "I am end of life?" I seem to remember in another thread that you posted something about having only so much time to live. Was this a doctor's diagnosis? Would you care to elaborate.
 
I am trying to lay-in a three-year supply of these products. I am getting there, but the prices have exploded up in the last two or three months. At least doubled. It is not uniform price rise across all types of fruits. So, the pressure is on to close this goal. Two 18 oz. jars per week=154 jars for one year. So far, I have been procuring Peach Preserves & Red Raspberry Preserves. For some reason the Peach price has not been escalating like the Raspberry. I can't find Blueberry Preserves. Not in 18 oz. jars, that I could get shipped.
Late summer and early fall are the best seasons for buying as they are plentiful.
Also, in case you’re interested SD, what I’ve always called natural preserves can be made by mushing up fruit and simmering it down like you would tomato sauce. This negates the need for sugar. I realize that’s extra info but thought you might find it interesting.
 

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