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Typical "Lib Logic" no different than that employed by modern Democrats.
The other regions suffered because Ukraine was the breadbasket of the Soviet Union and their drop in production due to the Holodomor (dead farmers can't farm, DUH!) affected the food supply for the whole of the Soviet Union.
Except they didn't belong to the Soviet Union prior to the Red Revolution...trade partners yes, but, not part of Russia.

Let me clarify...the third partition of Poland divided the control of what is now Ukraine between Astria/Hungary and Russia creating a zone called Galicia which was the western half of modern day Ukraine....prior to the partitions, almost all of it was "Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" (as was a good chunk of modern day Belarus, Crimea and Russia). The Fourth Partition was Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact just to add more confusion.

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My mother, an ethnic Pole, was born in present day Ukraine…it was under the control of Austria-Hungary at the time which had been annexed by Hitler and then the family fled before it was taken by the Russian army during WWII…so she always said to me “What am I by birth? German? Austrian? Hungarian? Russian? Ukrainian? Polish? Doesn't matter now. I am American.” (she always got offended when asked where she was from because of her accent).

What historically “belongs” to which country in that region is very complex. It is why present borders matter or there will be constant claims of one against another.
 
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I will die fighting, before I die hungry. I will also die fighting before I give up my guns. If the "party activists" think they can bully people on their own land, they are in for a surprise..... and slaughter. They may get away with their BS in the city, where they are protected by the radical left DAs, but come out to the rural areas....

There won’t be any bodies left to find out in the rural areas. Pigs are great disposal machines.
 
Let me clarify...the third partition of Poland divided the control of what is now Ukraine between Astria/Hungary
The same thing happened to Hungary as the Austrians and post-war azzholes decided to divide it up into Chechloslovakia, Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Romania, Ukraine, Austria and parts of Bosnia-Herzigovina...The picture below shows how large Hungary was before the Europeans decided to CUT IT UP and the red ring in the middle is the present size of Hungary at the moment. There are still millions of Hungarian speaking peoples in all of these "other" nations and they can get the double citizenship if they present their family tree. AND, there are MORE Hungarian speaking peoples around the world who fled the WWII and the 1956 revolution and the soviet regime than are presently LIVING INSIDE OF HUNGARY....The Hungarian NATION and Hungarian speaking people are the oldest and largest collectively recognised nation in the European continent. For over 1000 years the land of the "Hunnen" or "Magyar" has been recognised as a nation.
I read an old prayer book written in german once and one of the prayers ended:
"Lord, protect us from Satan, the Black Plague and the Hunnen"
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How many pigs, and how hungry do they need to be to make a 200lb person disappear? Asking for a friend.

30 years ago i had an pig farmer as neighbour. Some weird discussions after the one or other beers later he gave me the answer: Let the pig be hungry for a few days, then serve the 200lb after you shredded it. Bones will be smaller and esaier to crack, an normal garden shredder will do. 10 pigs will remove the "food" in one or two days completly.

His answer was meant serious.
 
The same thing happened to Hungary as the Austrians and post-war azzholes decided to divide it up into Chechloslovakia, Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Romania, Ukraine, Austria and parts of Bosnia-Herzigovina...The picture below shows how large Hungary was before the Europeans decided to CUT IT UP and the red ring in the middle is the present size of Hungary at the moment. There are still millions of Hungarian speaking peoples in all of these "other" nations and they can get the double citizenship if they present their family tree. AND, there are MORE Hungarian speaking peoples around the world who fled the WWII and the 1956 revolution and the soviet regime than are presently LIVING INSIDE OF HUNGARY....The Hungarian NATION and Hungarian speaking people are the oldest and largest collectively recognised nation in the European continent. For over 1000 years the land of the "Hunnen" or "Magyar" has been recognised as a nation.
I read an old prayer book written in german once and one of the prayers ended:
"Lord, protect us from Satan, the Black Plague and the Hunnen"
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I always wonder who these people are/were, that are so full of themselves, that they can just decide to carve up a Sovreign nation? I also wonder if at some point, like so many others in history, if that is not our fate as well? Sometimes it is done by war, but, simply "deeming" it so...

If it is simply a measure of different cultures then given recent events, I would say the USA is just about there.

My ranch hand and I had to go pick up a horse outside San Antonio and stopped to grab some lunch. We parked the still empty trailer across the street (due to lack of parking space and the trailer didn't fit through the drive thru) and walked. We get up to the counter and the girl at the counter says to us "I love your costumes, you're so cute." He and I looked at each other. Costumes? Since when are jeans, boots and a hat a "Costume" in San Antonio Texas?
 
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I can still remember the looks on the faces of the kids in Los Angeles when my family moved from Ft.Worth to
So-Cal. They all called me Little Tex and my brother Big-Tex.
After getting to know us a while, we got asked if we still ride horses to school and do we have any streets and sidewalks in Texas...asking them if they remembered the BIG ROCKETS used by the NASA to
"send men to the moon", they said yes. Then I reminded them that these big rockets were built and fired by NASA people WORKING IN HOUSTON, Texas....and they just went aaaaahhhhhh.
 
Yesterday in Germany: Thousands were demanding for an end to sanctions on Russia and the reopening of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.


Today, the pipeline was sabotaged.


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Yes, the pipeline was sabotaged. But hey, no problem at all - yesterday coincidentally the gas pipeline from Norway to Poland was opened.
A mischievous person who thinks evil...

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So you think the Vikings have been engaging in a little mayhem for profit?

Before even the EU knowed what happened with North Stream they already knew the Russians are guilty.
In the same day they opened an pipeline from Norway to Poland, paid with EU-money.
Personally i don't think any russian special forces are so stupid to bomb the wrong pipeline away.

It dosn't matter what i think, but there are to many coincidences those days and always Putin is guilty.

Of course absolutly never the EU would harm someone or something ...... (Sarcasm off)
 
Before even the EU knowed what happened with North Stream they already knew the Russians are guilty.
In the same day they opened an pipeline from Norway to Poland, paid with EU-money.

It dosn't matter what i think, but there are to many coincidences those days and always Putin is guilty.

Of course absolutly never the EU would harm someone or something ...... (Sarcasm off)


Another thing to take into consideration is that there are also forces within in Russia who are not too keen on what Putin is doing (oligarchs, organized crime) because it is disrupting their money flow and lifestyle. It could be an inside job.

On the flip side, there are those within who truly believe that the world as we know it must end in order for the "new world" to be born (the man called "Putin's brain" AKA Alexander Dugan for one)...
 
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I haven't seen what kind of sabotage there was on the pipeline, but I agree with catdog, I think there are folks who want to make sure that pipeline doesn't get fuel to the rest of Europe. I have to admit, I am kind of in that camp. I hate to see good people suffer, but at the same time, the sheople need to feel the pain of their stupid Socialist ideology. They need to know how ignorant the liberals are, and how they are the evil a holes behind the new world order. Folks need to truly get woke.
 
Another thing to take into consideration is that there are also forces within in Russia who are not too keen on what Putin is doing (oligarchs, organized crime) because it is disrupting their money flow and lifestyle. It could be an inside job.

On the flip side, there are those within who truly believe that the world as we know it must end in order for the "new world" to be born (the man called "Putin's brain" AKA Alexander Dugan for one)...
Yes, there are such forces in Russia, but in Ukraine there are many times more, and these are real kamikaze idiots who want to drag the world into a third world war at any price.

As for Alexander Dugin, he has relations with Putin, BUT he is not as powerful on Putin as our media write here, Kadyrov is probably even closer to Putin.
As for Alexander Dugin, he now has other problems since a few scumbags sent his daughter in a cowardly bomb attack over the Jordan, that was really under any dog.

If you want to know really bad people by name, then I'll say Klaus Schwab, and every man and woman who serves in his institution.
 
Motive, means, opportunity...there are so many who could be suspect. We might never know but, we need to keep an eye on what the other hand is doing while the media chases after this story.
 
Regardless of who did this, what is important for us to know, civilian (non-state) owned infrastructure (electrical grid, internet etc) just became fair game in the broader war.
 
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Don't worry, in the end the EU and NATO will decide who did it, it will probably end up that Russia or maybe Iran was the culprit, even though those two parties may not have been.
Even if maybe an EU country or Ukraine was the saboteur and would have been caught by EU and NATO, this would be covered up 100% because otherwise the "unity" could be destroyed.

I am sure the US and NATO know 100% who it was, but they can't say because someone from the community was insolvent.
If it was Russia, Grandpa Joe would have read evidence off the cheat sheet an hour later and shown pictures.....

This is a false game on the hump of the population, who it was that is almost obvious, the Eastern European community of arsonist countries that have been actively fighting these NS 2 lines for years with a little help from Grandpa Joe.
 

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